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Deleted User 26513
Profile Joined February 2007
2376 Posts
March 01 2020 21:52 GMT
#3161
Actually incredible game by Madrid. I didn't expect that after their previous performances.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-01 21:57:22
March 01 2020 21:56 GMT
#3162
I actually think this Real team is pretty aight and has plenty of upside. They were lucky today with the goals themselves but they were certainly good for them.

Barca meanwhile is pretty aweful. Shutdown Messi or Messi have a bad day and its a bust. They cant play out of the back and they cant match the intensity and hunger of their opponents in big games.
Sybris
Profile Joined February 2011
36 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-01 22:19:06
March 01 2020 22:14 GMT
#3163
Barcelona's squad is just crap, sacked Valverde and barely anything changed. Still slow, boring football
haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2744 Posts
March 01 2020 22:31 GMT
#3164
On March 02 2020 06:52 Pr0wler wrote:
Actually incredible game by Madrid. I didn't expect that after their previous performances.


After watching him today, I still don't understand why Kross didn't play a minute against City.
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-01 23:37:51
March 01 2020 23:37 GMT
#3165
On March 02 2020 00:56 Greg_J wrote:
That's a goal to me. Sigurdsson knew he was offside so he pulled his legs back and didn't touch the ball. He's lying on the floor so how much can really be blocking De Gea's line of sight.

edit: Oh Wolves beat Spurs too. They're more than in the Champions League hunt now by the way. Hmm 5 (online thanks to the virus) classes tomorrow watch the cup final or go to bed. Tough decisions life throws us.

Isn't that exactly why the offsite should be called?
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Greg_J
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
China4409 Posts
March 02 2020 01:35 GMT
#3166
Oh I forgot about El Clasico I knew there was something I was meant to be doing.

On March 02 2020 01:08 sneirac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2020 00:56 Greg_J wrote:
That's a goal to me. Sigurdsson knew he was offside so he pulled his legs back and didn't touch the ball. He's lying on the floor so how much can really be blocking De Gea's line of sight.

edit: Oh Wolves beat Spurs too. They're more than in the Champions League hunt now by the way. Hmm 5 (online thanks to the virus) classes tomorrow watch the cup final or go to bed. Tough decisions life throws us.

He is participating in the play tho from an offside position, I agree with you but as the rules are written it probably is offside and the correct call.

You are probably right. Sometimes following the rules doesn't seem like the right decision. But you can't just choose not to follow them.
WillyWanker
Profile Joined December 2011
France1915 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-02 07:23:22
March 02 2020 07:21 GMT
#3167
Barça was pretty good in the first half in my opinion. They're missing people up front so they aren't as threatening as they could be, but they moved the ball pretty fast and, after the initial 10 minutes, they started countering Madrid's press and found some opportunities. If they scored there, when they deserved it, it would have been a different game.

... and then came the 2nd half. Wtf. Barça started attempting super vertical passes that ALWAYS backfired. I get it that Madrid's press was good, but it wasn't that much better than the 1st half. In a normal Barça game the opponent gets tired of running after the ball around the 60-minute mark but it seemed like it was Barça that got tired this time. They just can't compete 90 minutes against top opponents. No way this team wins the CL.

I don't think Madrid can win the CL either, they lack the finishing and in CL it's a deal breaker. They're however looking a lot more promising for future seasons than Barça. They have good youngsters and I'm sure Vinicius can become a bit smarter in the last meters and he'll be a beast. Meanwhile Barça need bigger changes than just a coach. Semedo, Umtiti/Lenglet, Arthur, de Jong, Dembélé, Fati, Riqui Puig, ..., they have good young players but they all look like they've been infected by the old man syndrom that Busquets, Messi, or Piqué have been showing.
Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland2117 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-02 11:41:01
March 02 2020 11:40 GMT
#3168
Any thought on Griezmann's role? I saw some bits of the 2nd half and at times he seemed to drift far to the left wing when Barca had possession near Real's penalty area. You'd think with Suarez injured he's one of the players Barca definitely needs to create danger in the box, not on the wide areas.

I guess going wide creates room for De Jong and Busquets to move closer to the box, but neither of them are really the finishers you're looking for when being 1-0 down.

I'm not sure how common that wide movement was, but it definitely felt out of place when I noticed it.
WillyWanker
Profile Joined December 2011
France1915 Posts
March 02 2020 16:06 GMT
#3169
I think Griezmann wasn't a good fit for the team. He's left footed and plays great behind a striker, kinda like Messi. Players of this level should be able to play together but the team has been struggling tactically with Valverde and Setien hasn't had time to fix it so it's really not helping.

I like that he works hard for the team, you can't take that away from him, but that's just not enough right now without a 3rd like Dembele or Suarez. The best games he played was as the 9 and I think it's the way to go; but long term Suarez will be back and he won't play there so what's the point.
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-02 21:48:39
March 02 2020 21:48 GMT
#3170
On March 03 2020 01:06 WillyWanker wrote:
I think Griezmann wasn't a good fit for the team. He's left footed and plays great behind a striker, kinda like Messi. Players of this level should be able to play together but the team has been struggling tactically with Valverde and Setien hasn't had time to fix it so it's really not helping.

I like that he works hard for the team, you can't take that away from him, but that's just not enough right now without a 3rd like Dembele or Suarez. The best games he played was as the 9 and I think it's the way to go; but long term Suarez will be back and he won't play there so what's the point.

Personally, I think that's a very inaccurate statement. If anything, a player who excels at certain position, would find it much harder to fit into a role that not meant for him. It's the mediocre players that can pretty much be positioned anywhere in the pitch and can still deliver acceptably i.e. utility players. Sure there have been exceptions where a player was great in a role and transitioned into another pretty well, but in most cases, these happened as they aged and could no longer playe their initial role at the highest level.
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
March 03 2020 01:07 GMT
#3171
On unrelated news, what a dumb fucker

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/51712017
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evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8931 Posts
March 03 2020 01:42 GMT
#3172
gotta see what those texts actually said, but telling your brother something along the lines of "i might be moving to sevilla" would in no way constitute a ban like this.
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
March 03 2020 04:32 GMT
#3173
On March 03 2020 10:42 evilfatsh1t wrote:
gotta see what those texts actually said, but telling your brother something along the lines of "i might be moving to sevilla" would in no way constitute a ban like this.

In my experience, the burden of proof is always very high in these kind of situations and therefore I'd be very surprised if both panels (remember this went to the appeal panel) decided to go with such a harsh punishment with couple of vague text messages.
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
WillyWanker
Profile Joined December 2011
France1915 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-03 04:51:31
March 03 2020 04:34 GMT
#3174
On March 03 2020 06:48 nayumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2020 01:06 WillyWanker wrote:
I think Griezmann wasn't a good fit for the team. He's left footed and plays great behind a striker, kinda like Messi. Players of this level should be able to play together but the team has been struggling tactically with Valverde and Setien hasn't had time to fix it so it's really not helping.

I like that he works hard for the team, you can't take that away from him, but that's just not enough right now without a 3rd like Dembele or Suarez. The best games he played was as the 9 and I think it's the way to go; but long term Suarez will be back and he won't play there so what's the point.

Personally, I think that's a very inaccurate statement. If anything, a player who excels at certain position, would find it much harder to fit into a role that not meant for him. It's the mediocre players that can pretty much be positioned anywhere in the pitch and can still deliver acceptably i.e. utility players. Sure there have been exceptions where a player was great in a role and transitioned into another pretty well, but in most cases, these happened as they aged and could no longer playe their initial role at the highest level.

I wanted to put "should" between quotes because I tend to agree with you. I think that with a coach with clear ideas or if the team has a strong common goal, this works. Examples that come to mind being Henry which didn't play well under a dysfunctional Rijkaard team, then went to excel under Pep; and Suarez and Cavani for Uruguay where they make it work for the good of the team.

Griezmann is a flexible player to begin with so, in theory, if the team had a clear idea of what to do on the pitch and he was given a specific role and enough time, it would work. But they haven't had any of that. Signing a pure winger would have probably worked better. Dembele should work more easily if he wasn't injured all the time x)
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27464 Posts
March 03 2020 21:46 GMT
#3175
Solid performance by Chelsea but Jesus that Billy Gilmour has me feeling bloody old!
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28911 Posts
March 03 2020 21:53 GMT
#3176
the liverpool collapse is real!!!
Moderator
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
March 03 2020 21:55 GMT
#3177
Yeah well played from Chelsea tonight but Liverpool looked awful, especially second half wow, no threat at all and looked so tired.

Chelsea finally took some shots and played the way they had at the start of the season. Nice victory and hopefully they springboard on from this....only issue is we have more injuries now with Kovacic and Willian now sidelined
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2744 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-05 22:27:57
March 05 2020 22:13 GMT
#3178
Oh shit, we were winning 2-0 and so close to reach the Copa final for the first time in Granada's history. So sad for the city.

At least there will be for the first time a Basque Derby final (One of the top 3 derbies in Spain alongside Sevilla derby and Madrid derby). It will be an insane and very intense final with all the Basque Country mobilised. Let's see what can do La Real Nordic kids.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28911 Posts
March 06 2020 08:08 GMT
#3179
in other news, manchester united is really starting to look much better after january signings! Since the loss against burnley they have played 9 games, 6-3-0 with 22-2 goal difference! The opponents have been a mixed bag, for sure, but it does include away victories against both city and chelsea. Defensively they're looking better, Bruno Fernandes is pure class, and Ighalo actually looks like a fine emergency signing.

Definitely still in the top 4 race, most likely semi in FA cup, and one of the contenders for EL. Season might still end up a reasonable success, tbh.
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Espers
Profile Joined August 2009
United Kingdom606 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-06 16:19:24
March 06 2020 16:19 GMT
#3180
obviously the coronavirus delayed liverpool's shipment of PEDs
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