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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
November 17 2017 03:03 GMT
#621
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Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
November 17 2017 03:31 GMT
#622
Game's getting intense. Curry with the lol inbound defense. Damn why turn your back away from the basket
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Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
November 17 2017 03:46 GMT
#623
I've said it before and I'll say it again - Kyrie is a god damn genius with penetration layups. Every step of the sequence is more difficult than the previous one, yet he makes it look so effortless and he is always in control. From the initial dribble that gives him small separation from the first defender, to the evasion move against help defenders, and finally to the floater semi-acrobatic layup vs. three defenders that is always on point and always finds the right angle off the board.

I mean, I can't even remember Kyrie being blocked off a layup. There's gotta be something with this woke thing.
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Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-17 05:12:54
November 17 2017 04:19 GMT
#624
On November 17 2017 11:21 JimmiC wrote:
I agree that there could be something to landing mechanics because as Jerubaal said, with some actual anatomy and proven bio mechanics info, there is a "correct" or healthier way to land. My issue was always with the videos where they would splice together a few cherry picked highlights of people who had already been injured or had injury history's and claim that this was the cause of the injury, which as you mentioned was often do to a change of direction or jump not the landing. It was more or less click bait for people who didn't have the critical thinking, or effort and willingness to check out other landings or the injuries...


We have no disagreement. And I even remember you posting about JJ's infatuation with that wonky youtube channel about landing mechanics of Wade, Rose, and even Kobe's so called-shortened career. We all had a good laugh about it in the Offseason thread that made JJ disappear for a while.

I just pointed out the two or three instances where Embiid flirted with injury for the most nonsense reasons. And we don't even have to reach the "correct landing" extent. It's natural. Ask anyone to jump and they'd land ball first as a matter of instinct. How Embiid manages to instinctively land flat is weird.

As you say though, more study is needed beyond amateur internet basketball experts splicing things up to make a point, and equally ignorant people posting it here for our entertainment.
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
November 17 2017 04:19 GMT
#625
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Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
November 17 2017 04:58 GMT
#626
On November 17 2017 13:19 JimmiC wrote:
Pretty impressive win. Kyrie put a lot of pressure on him self moving teams and so far he is delivering

That's why although it was unpopular, I voted yes to Kyrie's decision to leave LBJ and the Cavs. He can be the best player in the team, and LBJ knows that.
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
November 17 2017 05:02 GMT
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andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
November 17 2017 16:13 GMT
#628
Kyrie just did to the Cavs what Lebron did to the Heat, ditch one championship contender for another as one window is closing and another is opening. He probably did it earlier than Lebron did, but you can't let perfect timing get in the way of good timing.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
November 17 2017 16:37 GMT
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andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
November 17 2017 18:56 GMT
#630
That is true. He'd be talking about how the suns revolve around the earth in that case.

A lot of teams did miss on Kyrie like the Suns and Nuggets. Cavs weren't in a good spot to hold out for a lot for him.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
November 17 2017 19:04 GMT
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Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-17 20:27:21
November 17 2017 20:26 GMT
#632
Fun Fact: It's suspected that the first person to suggest that pre-Colombian cartographers thought the earth was flat was Washington Irving, who was given access to documents in Spanish libraries on the pre-voyage debates. Thinking the story too dull, Irving jazzed it up a bit and got the bonus of some good anti-Catholic propaganda. The idea was probably popularized by noted bigot and propagandist John William Draper.

Irving created Ichabod Crane, dubbed New Yorkers "Knickerbockers" and was the first to refer to NYC as Gotham, but the flat earth may be his most popular fiction.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
November 17 2017 20:34 GMT
#633
IIRC, the Egyptians or maybe the Greeks already knew that the earth was round over 2000 years ago.

Second fiddle or third, in Harden's case, becoming first isn't that bad. I think it was worse back before the 2000s because many second fiddles used to be specialized complementary players who aren't very good in generating offense on their own. The league nowadays is much deeper than it was back then, no matter what the nostalgia freaks will tell you. The players today are better and more versatile and there are plenty of second bananas who have the skill set to become a first option. Efficiency will probably be the biggest thing holding some of them back.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
November 17 2017 22:29 GMT
#634
League isn't all that much deeper IMO, rather, scoring has been pushed down the height curve due to rule changes, "rule changes" aka refereeing trends, and playstyle changes that naturally follow from that. There has always been more "skilled" 6'1'' guys than 6'10'' guys, but previously even unskilled 6'10'' guys were necessary to stop the skilled 6'10'' guys and those same slow 6'10'' guys could defend all but the best 6'1'' guys.
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Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
November 18 2017 02:06 GMT
#635
On November 18 2017 01:13 andrewlt wrote:
Kyrie just did to the Cavs what Lebron did to the Heat, ditch one championship contender for another as one window is closing and another is opening. He probably did it earlier than Lebron did, but you can't let perfect timing get in the way of good timing.

This is only partially correct, and I say this as a LBJ fan. Lebron left a Heat that was all but nuked to death by the Spurs. There was no way that Heat team would win any championship with Spurs and the rising Warriors looming in the West. It was an opportunistic move by LBJ, but a practical one. He went from a desert to a meadow, with a few #1 picks and players of his own choosing.

Kyrie on the other hand was all guts and risk. Yes, the Cavs were not the favorite to win against the Warriors,and let's be honest, who were, but they were still elite championship contender team that could hang with the Warriors on their best night (see game 4). With the same roster of LBJ, Love, etc, the Cavs still had a good 2 years of guaranteed finals appearance. Kyrie left a very good East team to venture out and test himself. Unless he joined the Warriors, or the Rockets with CP3 already there, he would certainly be joining a relatively waek playoff team or even a non-contending team.

It is only now that Kyrie is finally able to play freely and shine bright outside the shadow of LBJ that we think it was a good decision. At the time, Kyrie was the village idiot who chose uncertainty over security. But he knew he is a #1 player, and maybe in his heart he believed he is better and more valuable than LBJ (he had plenty of reason to, most of the clutch wins of their 2016 championship were on his back, LBJ wilted in crucial moments and we immortalize him only because of that photogenic Iggy block), and he is proving himself correct so far.

#woke #vegansmart #flatearthresearch
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Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
November 18 2017 02:11 GMT
#636
On November 18 2017 04:04 JimmiC wrote:
I think historically the second fiddle moves on to be the number 1 has not worked out that well, kyrie at least at this point, is proving to be the exception. That being said he did join as very strong team. I wonder if he will start to get some mvp buzz?

Hes not saying the sun revolves aroubd the earth, hes just saying do your own research,especially sketchy websites.

Like NASA Sometime, I wish Kyrie would stop before his last sentence. In almost all of his interviews, he would start nice and reasonable and I would go agreeing "yeah, we should be knowledgeable about things and should be skeptical", and then he would finish with, "look out the window on a plane, do you ever see the earth as a circle, its all flat" then my jaw would just drop.
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Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
November 18 2017 02:18 GMT
#637
On November 18 2017 05:26 Jerubaal wrote:
Fun Fact: It's suspected that the first person to suggest that pre-Colombian cartographers thought the earth was flat was Washington Irving, who was given access to documents in Spanish libraries on the pre-voyage debates. Thinking the story too dull, Irving jazzed it up a bit and got the bonus of some good anti-Catholic propaganda. The idea was probably popularized by noted bigot and propagandist John William Draper.

Irving created Ichabod Crane, dubbed New Yorkers "Knickerbockers" and was the first to refer to NYC as Gotham, but the flat earth may be his most popular fiction.

Interesting. Got a good source?

So far I got WaPo and Wiki
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Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-18 04:38:45
November 18 2017 02:19 GMT
#638
On November 18 2017 05:34 andrewlt wrote:
IIRC, the Egyptians or maybe the Greeks already knew that the earth was round over 2000 years ago.

And Pythagoras proved it with sticks and shadows, with a few meters margin of error. Imagine that.

E: Eratosthenes, thanks Jerubaal
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Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
November 18 2017 02:22 GMT
#639
Also, Corvington signed on a multiyear extension.

76ers are legit!
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Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
November 18 2017 02:24 GMT
#640
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