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Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-18 02:26:49
November 18 2017 02:24 GMT
#641
Kevin Durant: Michael Jordan didn’t go through what I did
https://twitter.com/DanFeldmanNBA/status/931235706772574208?s=17

Full text and non click bait version:
http://nba.nbcsports.com/2017/11/16/kevin-durant-michael-jordan-didnt-go-through-what-i-did/

“I’m a person,” he says. “I’ve got real feelings and I’m not afraid to be vulnerable in front of people who watch us play or that follow the league. It’s f–ked up that you’re saying that stuff about me, because just a couple months before, I was the greatest thing since sliced bread because I was playing for your team. Your team is on TV every day, playing late into the playoffs and you get to brag about how good your city is to some other people around the country. It was all good when I was doing something for you. It was all good when I was representing you. Now I decided to take my career in my hands and I’m a ‘bitch’? That’s confusing … because some people that I’d seen that cheered for me, people that I actually talked to, the faces they were giving me, the tone they had when they looked at me, it was weird.

“Those people really mean a lot to me to this day,” he says. “No matter if they talk to me or they’re mad at me. Whether it’s Sam Presti or Troy Weaver or Russell Westbrook or Nick Collison. Whether it’s Wilson Taylor or Clay Bennett and his family, I love them from the bottom of my heart. We’re not talking, but eventually we will.

“I didn’t have that perspective at first. I didn’t have it when I went back to OKC. I was like, ‘F–k all of them.’ I didn’t have it when they gave my number away. I was, ‘F–k all of them.’ My best friend works for the team, I told him, ‘F–k all y’all. That’s f–ked up.’ Then I had to get out of my head, tell myself, ‘It’s not that serious, it is what it is.’ I understand it’s not my number anymore, they can do whatever they want with it, but you hand that number to a two-way player, you’ve got to be, like, ‘Nah, we’ve got too many good memories with this number, man.’ But at some point, that thing’s going to be in the rafters anyway; it’s all good. I did something they didn’t like. They did something I didn’t like. S–t happens. If I was on my death bed, I guarantee you Sam Presti and Russell Westbrook would come check on me. So I’m going to look at it that way rather than the other way.”

“If I [respond], it’s: ‘No, you’re sensitive. Shut up. You’re supposed to take it. Everybody did it. Michael went through it.’ I’m like, hold up. Michael Jordan did not go through this. You know what Michael Jordan went through? Reading the paper and it says, ‘Oh, Michael Jordan was 7-for-33 the night before, how the f–k is he going to bounce back?’ That’s criticism. Criticism is not, ‘_____, you moved to _____, you’re a bitch, a coward.’ That’s not criticism. Criticism is calling me Mr. Unreliable and bouncing back the next night.”
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Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
November 18 2017 02:28 GMT
#642
Disgraced Former Ref Tim Donaghy Says Mavericks Were 'Screwed' out of 2006 Title

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2744705-disgraced-former-ref-tim-donaghy-says-mavericks-were-screwed-out-of-2006-title?utm_campaign=tsipad&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=facebook.com


“Basically, Dallas was up in the series. With that being said, the way it was back then, was that the NBA would come in in order to extend a series, to go over plays that they felt should have went in Miami’s favor that didn’t and that went in Dallas’s favor that shouldn’t have and they started to program and training the referees to look for certain things.

I think basically Dallas basically got screwed out of a championship in that situation because the NBA started to manipulate the series to make sure it was extended and Dallas could never recover from it.

Let’s not forget at that time, Ed Rush was the supervisor of officials. And he hated Mark Cuban’s guts. He absolutely hated Mark Cuban.

He’s programming and training these referees to look for certain things that definitely put Miami at an advantage. Ed Rush used to tell us that Mark Cuban was someone that created a lot of extra work for us, constantly calling the league office and that really just got everyone to start to dislike Cuban."

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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
November 18 2017 02:33 GMT
#643
Disgraced, lol, more like the only cool former ref
Freeeeeeedom
Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-18 02:58:37
November 18 2017 02:57 GMT
#644
Re KD, with all the snek and fuck kd and bitch and cupcake and the sultan and twitter shit, I realized KD is just a kid who grew up way too fast in the age of social media. He wasn't protected by the media (and Nike) like LBJ was and still is, so he is very transparent to us.


He's got talent though, and he seems earnest enough. He'll figure it out.
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Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
November 18 2017 04:19 GMT
#645
On November 18 2017 11:19 Twinkle Toes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2017 05:34 andrewlt wrote:
IIRC, the Egyptians or maybe the Greeks already knew that the earth was round over 2000 years ago.

And Pythagoras proved it with sticks and shadows, with a few meters margin of error. Imagine that.


Not to nitpick, but it was Eratosthenes. :p

I just realized the irony...Washington Irving...Kyrie Irving.

Durant is falling into the current fallacy that because some people are being rude, you're excused to be rude.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
November 18 2017 04:39 GMT
#646
On November 18 2017 13:19 Jerubaal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2017 11:19 Twinkle Toes wrote:
On November 18 2017 05:34 andrewlt wrote:
IIRC, the Egyptians or maybe the Greeks already knew that the earth was round over 2000 years ago.

And Pythagoras proved it with sticks and shadows, with a few meters margin of error. Imagine that.


Not to nitpick, but it was Eratosthenes. :p

I just realized the irony...Washington Irving...Kyrie Irving.

Durant is falling into the current fallacy that because some people are being rude, you're excused to be rude.

Got you thanks.
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Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
November 18 2017 04:52 GMT
#647
On November 18 2017 11:33 cLutZ wrote:
Disgraced, lol, more like the only cool former ref


The only ref whose objective wasn't to serve the NBA's agenda. Truly the Guy Fawkes of our time.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
Kenpark
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany2350 Posts
November 18 2017 13:05 GMT
#648
On November 18 2017 11:28 Twinkle Toes wrote:
Disgraced Former Ref Tim Donaghy Says Mavericks Were 'Screwed' out of 2006 Title

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2744705-disgraced-former-ref-tim-donaghy-says-mavericks-were-screwed-out-of-2006-title?utm_campaign=tsipad&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=facebook.com


Show nested quote +
“Basically, Dallas was up in the series. With that being said, the way it was back then, was that the NBA would come in in order to extend a series, to go over plays that they felt should have went in Miami’s favor that didn’t and that went in Dallas’s favor that shouldn’t have and they started to program and training the referees to look for certain things.

I think basically Dallas basically got screwed out of a championship in that situation because the NBA started to manipulate the series to make sure it was extended and Dallas could never recover from it.

Let’s not forget at that time, Ed Rush was the supervisor of officials. And he hated Mark Cuban’s guts. He absolutely hated Mark Cuban.

He’s programming and training these referees to look for certain things that definitely put Miami at an advantage. Ed Rush used to tell us that Mark Cuban was someone that created a lot of extra work for us, constantly calling the league office and that really just got everyone to start to dislike Cuban."



I knew it all along. Hey refs take a closer look when Wade goes to the basket will you.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17004 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-19 02:36:23
November 19 2017 02:06 GMT
#649
no NBA concussion protocol?
that was a pretty bad fall by Embiid.

When Covington, Embiid, and Simmons on the floor together the 76ers are very good. Any other time they are pretty "meh".

Dragic and Rubio played a tonne of hard minutes in that Euro-basket tourney in the summer; now Rubio is hobbling around with tendonitis in his ankle. Rubio will be battling that injury all year. I'll bet you Miami's Dragic ends up with some kind of over-use injury this year as well. Jumper's knee, achilles tendonitis, plantar fasciitis... .something like that.
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Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
November 19 2017 23:04 GMT
#650
Finally, the troll war we deserve!

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-basketball-players-in-china-should-have-left-in-jail-a8064146.html

Trump says he 'should have left American basketball players arrested in China in jail'

LiAngelo Ball, Cody Riley and Jalen Hill were arrested in China earlier this month for shoplifting sunglasses before the University of Southern California (UCLA) season opener in Shanghai.

Mr Trump claimed he personally asked Chinese President Xi Jinping for his help in the case.

"Now that the three basketball players are out of China and saved from years in jail, LaVar Ball, the father of LiAngelo, is unaccepting of what I did for his son and that shoplifting is no big deal," Mr Trump tweeted. "I should have left them in jail!"

But Mr Ball's father, LaVar, told ESPN that Mr Trump had little to do with the players' release. “What was he over there for?" he asked of the President's trip to China. "Don’t tell me nothing. Everybody wants to make it seem like he helped me out.”

That same day, White House Director of Social Media Dan Scavino fired back at the elder Mr Ball from his personal Twitter account.

"Wannabe @Lakers coach, BIG MOUTH @Lavarbigballer knows if it weren’t for President @realDonaldTrump, his son would be in China for a long, long, long time!" Mr Scavino wrote. The President issued his tweet the next day.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17004 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-20 01:37:31
November 20 2017 01:32 GMT
#651
damn i love Norm...
zero boxscore #s for the 3rd quarter run minnesota went on..but man was he good.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17004 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-20 18:15:17
November 20 2017 17:40 GMT
#652
The East has a slight edge over the West this year. Surprising considering the # of FAs that headed West and how the West beat up the East last season.
Now, we've seen in previous Total Points Added/Saved Charts that East Rookies are outplaying West Rookies by a substantial margin. This is 1 reason the East is performing better than expected.

Now, let's check out the Sophomores/2nd year players.
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Again, Eastern Conference with a big edge.
Embiid (76ers), Siakam ( Raptors), Poetl ( Raptors), Brown ( Celtics), Sabonis (Pacers).
all in the East.

It'll be interesting to see when the national media finally gives up on the narrative that the West is dominating the East this year.

Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Nemireck
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1875 Posts
November 21 2017 02:18 GMT
#653
Narrative will continue until GS is dethroned. Will help if it doesn't take two key injuries and a Draymond suspension to make it happen as well.
Teamwork is awesome... As long as your team is doing all the work!
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
November 21 2017 02:49 GMT
#654
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
November 21 2017 03:11 GMT
#655
That is all a mis-evaluation of the narrative. The narrative was that if Lebron had a heart attack, the next best East team would be lucky to force any of the top 5 in the West to a game 6.
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zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
November 21 2017 03:39 GMT
#656
On November 21 2017 12:11 cLutZ wrote:
That is all a mis-evaluation of the narrative. The narrative was that if Lebron had a heart attack, the next best East team would be lucky to force any of the top 5 in the West to a game 6.


i think top 5 is stretching it a bit. i think boston is better than that. like top 5 right now is minny and portland, u can't seriously say that u would be surprised if boston took those 2 teams to game 6
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
November 21 2017 03:48 GMT
#657
On November 21 2017 12:39 zev318 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2017 12:11 cLutZ wrote:
That is all a mis-evaluation of the narrative. The narrative was that if Lebron had a heart attack, the next best East team would be lucky to force any of the top 5 in the West to a game 6.


i think top 5 is stretching it a bit. i think boston is better than that. like top 5 right now is minny and portland, u can't seriously say that u would be surprised if boston took those 2 teams to game 6


I was talking about previous years. The East is incredibly improved, mostly because a bunch of kids grew up into legit talents like Giannis, Brown, etc. Also the west lost LAC who were in the 5 spot most those years.
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
November 21 2017 03:49 GMT
#658
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
November 21 2017 05:26 GMT
#659
On November 21 2017 12:49 JimmiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2017 12:11 cLutZ wrote:
That is all a mis-evaluation of the narrative. The narrative was that if Lebron had a heart attack, the next best East team would be lucky to force any of the top 5 in the West to a game 6.

There was usually a couple of top teams like when lebron was with mia there was bos with kg pierce and allen that had a chance to win (and did)

We are mostly talking about years that Lebron won the East, or more-so, since he won his first title. A significant part of the "Lebron is a top XXX player all time" case lies with his 7 straight finals appearances, and thus, the context that the East has mostly been trash is relevant. If his legacy was all about titles, the East being trash would be a footnote, because people would say, "it looks like trash because his teams are the best". I'd say this came to a head in 2016 when it was pretty clear that OKC basically cost Golden State a game or 2 in the finals by just beating them up physically and getting Draymond some techs (and more importantly a reputation).
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Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
November 21 2017 05:59 GMT
#660
zach is back

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