EPTNBA Season 2017-2018 - Page 29
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andrewlt
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JimmyJRaynor
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Jerubaal
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On November 11 2017 03:27 cLutZ wrote: Its like Tebow's ugly form vs, Phil Rivers' ugly form. Rivers is ugly, but its compact with a decently high release point, Tebow's was slow and long (he'd drop the ball to his waist) with only a decent release point. I dont know if Fultz can recover his old form, but it was good. Ball's form is bad because he can't shoot properly when dribbling, plus it has a low release point and slow release. You'd think with the amount of money on the line and the availability of coaching they would attempt to change their mechanics. I realize they developed their habits for much longer than I, but I was able to completely change my shot at age 19 with no help. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
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it's easier to convince someone to change their mechanics after clear failure. If Lonzo ends up having a full season of shooting very badly his mind will be wide open to making a change. On a related note, LBJ altered his jump shot this summer. he is what? 33? It is early , however, The Eastern Conference has more wins this year than the West while the Cavs have a losing record. Hands up all those who called that? In that weekly rookie chart i post here its all Eastern Conference guys in the top-right quadrant. | ||
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JimmiC
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JimmyJRaynor
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https://squared2020.com/2017/11/05/defensive-ratings-estimation-vs-counting/ when reading about any player or team defensive rating its important to find out if it is estimated or actual. in the example provided here the 76ers team defensive rating was 104.90. Its estimated rating was 102.17. The estimation is good, but not perfect. To get an actual rating requires automated (or manual) digging through play-by-play data. Estimated ratings come from boxscore data. | ||
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andrewlt
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On November 12 2017 01:43 JimmiC wrote: They will, With tebow they tried. With Ball they even talked about how he had to much to learn and too much to adjust to in his first year and they would work on his shot next off season. Lots of people alter their shots, some it works out some can't break the habits I guess we will see with ball. The issue is that there will always be a drop off while they are working on their shot. It happens. The more they practiced and worked on their previous shot, the harder the drop off will be. And there's always the temptation to use the old form whenever they get cold shooting the new shot. I'm guessing there's a minimum of six months before the new shot could potentially be better than the old one. Even in a freaking desk job, consultants predict that it takes roughly six months to get back to the previous productivity after changing your database/enterprise/transaction software. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
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i will bet you that Eastern Conference Sophomores are substantially outperforming their Western Conference counterparts. ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/wwuVJlV.jpg) | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
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O'Quinn just delivered a bodycheck Mark Messier would be proud of.... Isaiah Thomas with a tech.. Wade with a tech... Enes Kanter and LBJ with double tech.... its mayhem in the garden! The Cavs are getting beat up. | ||
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JimmiC
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JimmyJRaynor
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wasn't gobert out of utah's lineup tonight? | ||
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JimmiC
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JimmyJRaynor
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https://www.theringer.com/nba/2017/11/9/16626430/nba-utah-jazz-ricky-rubio-donovan-mitchell "Scared, Shotless: Ricky Rubio Is Utah’s Leading Scorer, Which Is Why Its Offense Is a Nightmare" Utah's offense was average last year and they lost their #1 and #2 offensive producers in Gordon Hayward and George Hill. And last night they played without Gobert. i'd say Hill > Rubio > Teague. Utah replacing Hill with Rubio makes Utah slightly worse both offensively and defensively. | ||
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JimmiC
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JimmyJRaynor
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On November 14 2017 23:16 JimmiC wrote: Everything i have read about hill is he has disapointed in sac. He is going from a better team to a worse team which usually leads to a bump in usage and stats. Hill has regressed in both. Both Hill and Rubio are in bad situations. This does not make them bad players. The primary ball-handler/distributor relies on all of their team mates more than other players. Both Hill and Rubio didn't suddenly become bad players because they're in bad situations. Jeff Teague is a slightly above average PG. Rubio is slightly better than him and Hill is slightly better than Rubio. On November 14 2017 23:16 JimmiC wrote: This will be my last response to you because we all know how that goes. this is hilarious. you keep saying you won't respond to my posts and then you do. it makes it hard to take your posts seriously when you do it repeatedly. On November 14 2017 23:16 JimmiC wrote: Edit: because you clearly cant read i didnt say teague is a better player or rubio is worse. I said teague was much better last night. Seriously you have 0 reading comprehension. in this post http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sports/526388-nba-season-2017-2018?page=29#571 i did not quote your post. i did not provide a rebuttal to your post. i made a general observation. i told you this in the NFL thread and i am telling you now in this thread. if i do not quote your post i am not providing a rebuttal to your post. if you decide in your own mind i'm providing a direct rebuttal to your post when i do not quote your post you are living in your own dream world. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
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Orlando Magic ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/3EFjwqV.jpg) Vucevic has really blossomed under Vogel's new offense so i have no idea how Biyombo is going to get many minutes. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
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Toronto's defensive rating with Derozan on the floor : 110 Toronto's defensive rating without Derozan : 94. ouch. On November 14 2017 23:16 JimmiC wrote: Edit 2: since i didnt quote your post i must not have been responding to it. Heck im not responding to you now. Im editing for everyone elses benefit since many people have said they dont like the back and forth filling the thread. You have shown on every thread you either dont care about others or you are completely socially unaware. Either way it has got you banned before and im sure it will happen again. your post started with "Thats your opinion" indicating you were providing a rebuttal. my post was a general observation not a comment on 1 specific game. | ||
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Jerubaal
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Nemireck
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On November 15 2017 10:36 JimmyJRaynor wrote: there is no "mystery" to me about why Toronto's 1st unit is always trailing when substitutions occur later in the 1st quarter. Demar Derozan is a very bad defender. Once he is removed from the game Toronto's defense tightens up. Toronto's defensive rating with Derozan on the floor : 110 Toronto's defensive rating without Derozan : 94. ouch. your post started with "Thats your opinion" indicating you were providing a rebuttal. my post was a general observation not a comment on 1 specific game. This is a mystery to literally nobody who has paid any amount of attention to the team for the last 3-4 years. I even understand this, and I'm nothing more than an unashamed bandwagon fan. The only people confused about this are the casual observer that checks boxscores until playoffs start and they become, "Literally, the biggest fan ever! Like, Lowry man, and DeRozan... jeez!" | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
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of course, they're both owned by the guys that own the Raptors so i guess we shouldn't expect too much. OG needs to start at SF. I'd like to see Powell start at shooting guard and Derozan come off the bench... but i don't ever see that happening. | ||
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