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Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
November 01 2017 15:52 GMT
#461
An oldie but goodie returns:

Kyrie on flat-earth: "The whole intent behind it wasn’t to bash science and be seen as this insane individual. When I started actually doing research on my own and figuring out that there is no real picture of Earth... the intent was for people to open up and do their own research."


https://www.boston.com/sports/boston-celtics/2017/10/31/5-things-we-learned-about-kyrie-irving-from-his-conversation-with-geno-auriemma
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Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
November 01 2017 15:55 GMT
#462
Well it's just sad now. No real picture of Earth? And this is the worst spin ever. His PR team are idiots for letting him go out with this. I hate her, but Kellyanne Conway could have saved Irving here.

Damn he just highlighted his potcrack ignorance with this.
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
November 01 2017 16:01 GMT
#463
Kyrie may be the best proof yet if the Shan that is college sports. Seriously, how did he get into Duke? How did he pass a single class?
Freeeeeeedom
bdonballer
Profile Joined October 2014
United States408 Posts
November 01 2017 16:39 GMT
#464
On November 02 2017 00:49 Twinkle Toes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2017 20:32 bdonballer wrote:
Can my Lakers just be consistent? That's all I want

Bad wish at this point in time. Do you mean consistently mediocre?

They have good up and coming players, but they need time to develop and veterans to strengthen them.

If they went better than .500 for the season I would be pleasantly surprised.
I carry hard!
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
November 01 2017 20:13 GMT
#465
On November 02 2017 00:52 Twinkle Toes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2017 00:15 andrewlt wrote:
On November 01 2017 19:16 ZenithM wrote:
On November 01 2017 10:35 Twinkle Toes wrote:
On November 01 2017 02:41 JimmiC wrote:
On November 01 2017 02:36 Twinkle Toes wrote:
In other, real and relevant news:

Boston is killing it. Kyrie is better. Horford is better. Heck even Smart looks amazing.I hope Hayward returns before the playoffs and comes back better than before.

Also, I kinda like that new jerseys (not the material quality but the look). The logos are nicely integrated and they look clean and sharp.


Yeah it is early but they sure like the team to beat in the east not Cle. Never can count out Lebron though, they have looked bad before and he still wins the east!

Right now it looks like it will be bos, tor, was, then the young up and coming teams, bucks and phi then Cle. I have trouble believing in Det and Orl but who knows.


Yeah, lebron will be lebron. But I think the key difference this year is that the core looks weak. Last time they had Kyrie, RJ, Della, and the others and they look just out of rhythm and will eventually get better the closer it gets to the playoffs.

Now they just look old and bad.

Hmm uh, what? Dellavedova was in Milwaukee last year and RJ averaged 5.7 ppg on 20 minutes. That's not exactly 2 guys I would qualify as "core".
The "core" is pretty much the same as the last 2 years, except they traded Kyrie for an injured Thomas. So yes, maybe they're getting old, but for one they're lacking their primary scoring option, and two, the players haven't changed that much.

The problem is not in the players, it's lack of effort on the court, especially defensively and lack of gameplan and coaching (which is probably a bit on Lebron).


Doesn't help that Lebron doesn't really start playing defense until April. The Cavs were lost last year without him too. I don't remember them winning a game that he was resting. And that was with Kyrie. They don't have Thomas yet. That team is just not built to win without their stars carrying the playmaking load.

And even in the playoffs, Lebron looked slow and prone to error on defense. The warriors played him like a puppet on multiple occasions and he just got more and more frustrated.


I suppose it helped that they played eastern teams who are more isolation heavy. Those kinds of teams are easier for the Cavs to defend since they don't require much in the way of defensive communication.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17002 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-01 22:59:24
November 01 2017 22:51 GMT
#466
big mid-week night of basketball: 12 games tonight
milwaukee v. charlotte
orlando v. memphis
are the 2 most intriguing matchups for me.
On November 02 2017 01:01 cLutZ wrote:
Kyrie may be the best proof yet if the Shan that is college sports. Seriously, how did he get into Duke? How did he pass a single class?

one can believe the earth is any shape and do great in any math class. you can do fine in physics. you don't have to believe in the universal theory of gravitation in order to memorize the equation and solve a few word problems.

economics? english literature? chemistry? biology?
none of these subjects require the belief the earth is an oblate spheroid.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
November 01 2017 23:06 GMT
#467
On November 02 2017 01:39 bdonballer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2017 00:49 Twinkle Toes wrote:
On November 01 2017 20:32 bdonballer wrote:
Can my Lakers just be consistent? That's all I want

Bad wish at this point in time. Do you mean consistently mediocre?

They have good up and coming players, but they need time to develop and veterans to strengthen them.

If they went better than .500 for the season I would be pleasantly surprised.


i think above 50% wr is a big ask for them
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17002 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-01 23:39:30
November 01 2017 23:35 GMT
#468
On November 02 2017 05:13 andrewlt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2017 00:52 Twinkle Toes wrote:
On November 02 2017 00:15 andrewlt wrote:
On November 01 2017 19:16 ZenithM wrote:
On November 01 2017 10:35 Twinkle Toes wrote:
On November 01 2017 02:41 JimmiC wrote:
On November 01 2017 02:36 Twinkle Toes wrote:
In other, real and relevant news:

Boston is killing it. Kyrie is better. Horford is better. Heck even Smart looks amazing.I hope Hayward returns before the playoffs and comes back better than before.

Also, I kinda like that new jerseys (not the material quality but the look). The logos are nicely integrated and they look clean and sharp.

On November 02 2017 00:15 andrewlt wrote:
Doesn't help that Lebron doesn't really start playing defense until April.



Yeah it is early but they sure like the team to beat in the east not Cle. Never can count out Lebron though, they have looked bad before and he still wins the east!

Right now it looks like it will be bos, tor, was, then the young up and coming teams, bucks and phi then Cle. I have trouble believing in Det and Orl but who knows.


Yeah, lebron will be lebron. But I think the key difference this year is that the core looks weak. Last time they had Kyrie, RJ, Della, and the others and they look just out of rhythm and will eventually get better the closer it gets to the playoffs.

Now they just look old and bad.

Hmm uh, what? Dellavedova was in Milwaukee last year and RJ averaged 5.7 ppg on 20 minutes. That's not exactly 2 guys I would qualify as "core".
The "core" is pretty much the same as the last 2 years, except they traded Kyrie for an injured Thomas. So yes, maybe they're getting old, but for one they're lacking their primary scoring option, and two, the players haven't changed that much.

The problem is not in the players, it's lack of effort on the court, especially defensively and lack of gameplan and coaching (which is probably a bit on Lebron).


Doesn't help that Lebron doesn't really start playing defense until April. The Cavs were lost last year without him too. I don't remember them winning a game that he was resting. And that was with Kyrie. They don't have Thomas yet. That team is just not built to win without their stars carrying the playmaking load.

And even in the playoffs, Lebron looked slow and prone to error on defense. The warriors played him like a puppet on multiple occasions and he just got more and more frustrated.

I suppose it helped that they played eastern teams who are more isolation heavy. Those kinds of teams are easier for the Cavs to defend since they don't require much in the way of defensive communication.

On November 02 2017 00:15 andrewlt wrote:
Doesn't help that Lebron doesn't really start playing defense until April.

to be fair guys like Love, Tristan Thompson, Curry, Klay Thompson, and Green are sleep walking on defense right now. both Finals teams have now made 3 straight trips to the finals and both team's defenses look punch drunk and super soft right now.

the 29th and 28th ranked teams in terms of defensive rating are Golden State and Cleveland.
guess who is 30th?
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
November 02 2017 00:54 GMT
#469
A bit of a downtime on games today... so here's more woke news

Kyrie: "Why is it that the footprints that they saved - What’s his name? Neil Armstrong? I don’t even know - Why is it that the steps, in terms of the pictures that they say he stepped on, why do they look completely different than the [boots] that are actually in the museum that he walked with?"


The "what's his name" made this post for me lol.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17002 Posts
November 02 2017 01:24 GMT
#470
The Pacers outplayed the Cavs tonight. More punch drunk defense from Cleveland.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
November 02 2017 01:34 GMT
#471
Loving how well my boy Simmons is playing right now. Just need to work on those FT's still tho.
Forever Young
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
November 02 2017 01:38 GMT
#472
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17002 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-02 02:23:41
November 02 2017 02:15 GMT
#473
the Pelicans commentator guys know a lot about basketball in general. how little they know about the Timberwolves is hilarious. "he passes it over to that guy right there".

i really like how many close games are ending with teams not having time outs. the replay reviews end up creating play stoppages any way. i like the way travelling is being called. All in all the NBA has done a nice job tweaking the rules for the 2017-18 season.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
November 02 2017 03:14 GMT
#474
On November 02 2017 10:34 sung_moon wrote:
Loving how well my boy Simmons is playing right now. Just need to work on those FT's still tho.

Simmons is legit! I hope he avoids further injury and reaches his potential.
This Sixers team has everything to be special! If they stick together in a couple more years, and Jah gets it together, they are the new East powerhouse
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ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-02 14:57:34
November 02 2017 14:55 GMT
#475
On November 02 2017 00:52 Twinkle Toes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2017 00:15 andrewlt wrote:
On November 01 2017 19:16 ZenithM wrote:
On November 01 2017 10:35 Twinkle Toes wrote:
On November 01 2017 02:41 JimmiC wrote:
On November 01 2017 02:36 Twinkle Toes wrote:
In other, real and relevant news:

Boston is killing it. Kyrie is better. Horford is better. Heck even Smart looks amazing.I hope Hayward returns before the playoffs and comes back better than before.

Also, I kinda like that new jerseys (not the material quality but the look). The logos are nicely integrated and they look clean and sharp.


Yeah it is early but they sure like the team to beat in the east not Cle. Never can count out Lebron though, they have looked bad before and he still wins the east!

Right now it looks like it will be bos, tor, was, then the young up and coming teams, bucks and phi then Cle. I have trouble believing in Det and Orl but who knows.


Yeah, lebron will be lebron. But I think the key difference this year is that the core looks weak. Last time they had Kyrie, RJ, Della, and the others and they look just out of rhythm and will eventually get better the closer it gets to the playoffs.

Now they just look old and bad.

Hmm uh, what? Dellavedova was in Milwaukee last year and RJ averaged 5.7 ppg on 20 minutes. That's not exactly 2 guys I would qualify as "core".
The "core" is pretty much the same as the last 2 years, except they traded Kyrie for an injured Thomas. So yes, maybe they're getting old, but for one they're lacking their primary scoring option, and two, the players haven't changed that much.

The problem is not in the players, it's lack of effort on the court, especially defensively and lack of gameplan and coaching (which is probably a bit on Lebron).


Doesn't help that Lebron doesn't really start playing defense until April. The Cavs were lost last year without him too. I don't remember them winning a game that he was resting. And that was with Kyrie. They don't have Thomas yet. That team is just not built to win without their stars carrying the playmaking load.

And even in the playoffs, Lebron looked slow and prone to error on defense. The warriors played him like a puppet on multiple occasions and he just got more and more frustrated.

It's like they said for Westbrook, p&r-based drive and kick style is really predictable and ultimately easy to defend for them. They have the length and the defensive IQ to stifle that shit hard.

At this point I'm quite convinced that one guy creating for 3-4 others sitting their asses off behind the 3pt line is indeed not really championship material. Especially if GSW is involved.
Actually it would probably have been possible with a younger Lebron, but he himself can't carry that much of a load anymore. I still don't understand why they don't let Love create a bit more by himself.
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
November 02 2017 14:58 GMT
#476
I think you mean if they a decent return on Jah. There's also Embiid's health to worry about.
Aveng3r
Profile Joined February 2012
United States2411 Posts
November 02 2017 15:08 GMT
#477
On November 02 2017 12:14 Twinkle Toes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2017 10:34 sung_moon wrote:
Loving how well my boy Simmons is playing right now. Just need to work on those FT's still tho.

Simmons is legit! I hope he avoids further injury and reaches his potential.
This Sixers team has everything to be special! If they stick together in a couple more years, and Jah gets it together, they are the new East powerhouse

Jah is not getting it together anytime soon, at least not while hes on this team
I carve marble busts of assassinated world leaders - PM for a quote
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17002 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-02 15:22:42
November 02 2017 15:18 GMT
#478
didn't he just demand a trade and/or buyout?

Cleveland's players are not in top notch NBA shape. Frequent training gets harder and harder to do as athletes age. You need to train to get in better shape. Cleveland is the oldest team in the NBA.

Look for teams like Indiana to keep the pace high and run Cleveland ragged.

There is no chance Cleveland wins the NBA title this year. They're done.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
November 02 2017 15:31 GMT
#479
I have to agree with that assessment. But well, it was impossible for them last year too.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
November 02 2017 16:37 GMT
#480
On November 02 2017 23:55 ZenithM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2017 00:52 Twinkle Toes wrote:
On November 02 2017 00:15 andrewlt wrote:
On November 01 2017 19:16 ZenithM wrote:
On November 01 2017 10:35 Twinkle Toes wrote:
On November 01 2017 02:41 JimmiC wrote:
On November 01 2017 02:36 Twinkle Toes wrote:
In other, real and relevant news:

Boston is killing it. Kyrie is better. Horford is better. Heck even Smart looks amazing.I hope Hayward returns before the playoffs and comes back better than before.

Also, I kinda like that new jerseys (not the material quality but the look). The logos are nicely integrated and they look clean and sharp.


Yeah it is early but they sure like the team to beat in the east not Cle. Never can count out Lebron though, they have looked bad before and he still wins the east!

Right now it looks like it will be bos, tor, was, then the young up and coming teams, bucks and phi then Cle. I have trouble believing in Det and Orl but who knows.


Yeah, lebron will be lebron. But I think the key difference this year is that the core looks weak. Last time they had Kyrie, RJ, Della, and the others and they look just out of rhythm and will eventually get better the closer it gets to the playoffs.

Now they just look old and bad.

Hmm uh, what? Dellavedova was in Milwaukee last year and RJ averaged 5.7 ppg on 20 minutes. That's not exactly 2 guys I would qualify as "core".
The "core" is pretty much the same as the last 2 years, except they traded Kyrie for an injured Thomas. So yes, maybe they're getting old, but for one they're lacking their primary scoring option, and two, the players haven't changed that much.

The problem is not in the players, it's lack of effort on the court, especially defensively and lack of gameplan and coaching (which is probably a bit on Lebron).


Doesn't help that Lebron doesn't really start playing defense until April. The Cavs were lost last year without him too. I don't remember them winning a game that he was resting. And that was with Kyrie. They don't have Thomas yet. That team is just not built to win without their stars carrying the playmaking load.

And even in the playoffs, Lebron looked slow and prone to error on defense. The warriors played him like a puppet on multiple occasions and he just got more and more frustrated.

It's like they said for Westbrook, p&r-based drive and kick style is really predictable and ultimately easy to defend for them. They have the length and the defensive IQ to stifle that shit hard.

At this point I'm quite convinced that one guy creating for 3-4 others sitting their asses off behind the 3pt line is indeed not really championship material. Especially if GSW is involved.
Actually it would probably have been possible with a younger Lebron, but he himself can't carry that much of a load anymore. I still don't understand why they don't let Love create a bit more by himself.

Because LeBron is rigid AF
Freeeeeeedom
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