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Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
November 04 2017 04:22 GMT
#501
Unless its red vs. orange, I love the new jersey match ups as well, especially with the primary and secondary color clashes, and the contrasts.

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Also, that powder blue and gold Lakers jersey is yummy. I wonder if they have a Kobe version of it.[/QUOTE]
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Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
November 04 2017 04:28 GMT
#502
Clean tear

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andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
November 04 2017 05:51 GMT
#503
On November 04 2017 13:09 Twinkle Toes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2017 00:15 andrewlt wrote:
I fucking love the new timeout rules. It's early, I know, but my initial impressions are very positive.

As for Lebron, I think part of the problem is that Cavs management and coaching hasn't really been great. Put him with a Klay Thompson and a bunch of Danny Greens and that team will just wreck the NBA. They've never found or coached up guys who can really complement his game. There's no one close to a Kawhi Leonard who started with no offense but was coached up to be a great offensive player. Even a poor man's version would do wonders next to Lebron.

He doesn't do well with ball dominant players but does really well with catch and shoot players and good cutters. That's why Bosh was a great pairing in Miami. Bosh was always the underrated part of that team. He lessened his offensive load in exchange for anchoring the defense. On offense, he was a great spot up shooter for Lebron to pass to.

Lebron may not be as versatile as Jordan or Kobe on scoring but he is really, really, really good at what he does. For all the faults in his game, he still has 3 rings. He just never had a coach who can force him to learn how to play off the ball the way the Warriors did with Durant last year.

My problem with "he is good at what he does" is that it is a vague attempt at discussing comparisons among great players. We could say the same thing to Horry, Rodman, 2016 TT, Iguodala, and we get nowhere. Anyway, would you say he is GOAT or at least GOAT candidate?


"If brute force isn't working, you aren't using enough." Lebron doesn't have the fancy footwork of a Jordan or a Kobe but he is really good at slashing to the basket and either scoring or assisting off it. He has a ridiculously high fg% near the basket, comparable to centers who do nothing but dunk all the time. One of the things I appreciate most about this game is that he goes to the basket with the intention to make a field goal. I've seen plenty of players go to the basket to just try to draw a foul without trying to actually make a field goal.

We can talk about how his game isn't going to be as effective as he ages but he is 33. For comparison, Jordan won his last ring at 34 and Kobe at 31. His game has aged well enough. He can still score near the basket at a very high percentage. And there were years that he shot over 35% from three.

As for GOAT, no. I grew up as a Jordan fan in the 90s. Nothing beats teenage fandom.
Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
November 04 2017 10:28 GMT
#504
On November 04 2017 14:51 andrewlt wrote:
One of the things I appreciate most about this game is that he goes to the basket with the intention to make a field goal. I've seen plenty of players go to the basket to just try to draw a foul without trying to actually make a field goal.

We can talk about how his game isn't going to be as effective as he ages but he is 33. For comparison, Jordan won his last ring at 34 and Kobe at 31. His game has aged well enough. He can still score near the basket at a very high percentage. And there were years that he shot over 35% from three.

There is actually a stat somewhere in the 2017 Finals or Offseason thread which shows LBJ actually being bad/not good at making decisions in crucial games when he is driving towards the lane. IIRC, it shows him consistently passing to a cold Korver or to Love, when he is practically 5 feet away from the basket at 70% fg with Curry or Green on him.


As for GOAT, no. I grew up as a Jordan fan in the 90s. Nothing beats teenage fandom.

Preach brother.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17486 Posts
November 04 2017 13:56 GMT
#505
here come the thought police. give him life in front of a firing squad.
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/21277584/nba-reviewing-kelly-oubre-jr-washington-wizards-coat-message
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Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
November 04 2017 21:28 GMT
#506
What kind of a world are we living in when a man can't wear a jacket that says FUCK YOU to his place of employment?
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17486 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-05 01:03:44
November 05 2017 01:02 GMT
#507
the kind of world where a man can say "are you fucking blind. fuck you, motherfucker" to another employee doing his job at work.
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zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
November 05 2017 01:45 GMT
#508
steve kerr meant that as a joke, come on
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3134 Posts
November 05 2017 08:57 GMT
#509
That gave me a good laugh when I saw it. God he looked pissed off.
Artosis loves Starcraft
Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
November 05 2017 11:01 GMT
#510
Wasn't that also the game where Pop got ejected?
So both sides hating on the ref, must have been a miserable night for the officials
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17486 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-05 16:28:55
November 05 2017 16:28 GMT
#511
i wonder if Nike will whine about this art on an NBAers Halloween game shoes. i hope not.

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andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
November 05 2017 18:29 GMT
#512
On November 05 2017 20:01 Twinkle Toes wrote:
Wasn't that also the game where Pop got ejected?
So both sides hating on the ref, must have been a miserable night for the officials


Yes. And Kerr joked afterwards that Pop is his mentor.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17486 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-05 22:18:01
November 05 2017 22:17 GMT
#513
Steve Kerr being the sensitive left wing democrat man that he is has apologized for his "course language". This is sad.
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/21287654/steve-kerr-golden-state-warriors-apologizes-coarse-language
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
November 05 2017 22:18 GMT
#514
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Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
November 05 2017 22:24 GMT
#515
One inadvertent result of superteams and probably finals appearance fatigue, Cavs and Warriors seem out of it and lazy. I hope they pick it up once we hit the 20 game mark.

I notice Lebron playing differently this season. Might be good for the team.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17486 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-05 22:31:55
November 05 2017 22:30 GMT
#516
you've heard of "3 and D" guys?
Wade and Rose offer no "3" and no "D".

i said it at the start of the year and i'll say it again.. their defense will be worse than last year.
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Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
November 05 2017 22:41 GMT
#517
They offer great back up ball handling and creation though! Surely that would be useful on Lebr- What was I saying?
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17486 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-05 22:50:00
November 05 2017 22:48 GMT
#518
On November 06 2017 07:41 Jerubaal wrote:
They offer great back up ball handling and creation though! Surely that would be useful on Lebr- What was I saying?

true, so does Jose Calderon and he is a legit 3 point threat and therefore creates spacing.

i was thinking they could sign Bosh and Bargnani and create a bench line up of 2007 Raptors... they could even make Sam Mitchell an assistant coach.... ahh the memories
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17486 Posts
November 05 2017 23:27 GMT
#519
nice move by Casey to get Ibaka out of there after 6 minutes... that was just plain bad.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
November 06 2017 00:24 GMT
#520
Whats up with Piston being #2 right now? Who is leading the team?
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