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On July 22 2017 20:01 Pandemona wrote:
PSG are nuts!!!
90% likely the Neymar deal goes through for €220million, they are also bidding next week for Sanchez! Which is where Arsenal will want to ship him too. That fee is "only" £35million bid which is around €45million mark i think.
Sanchez and Neymar in one window haha, madness!
Makes no sense to move from Spain/England/Bayern to Paris whatsoever. French league is not as prestigious and I doubt they will go far in CL even with Neymar.
And besides Panda how many times have you said a transfer is 90% and it doesn't end up happening in the end 
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On July 23 2017 10:03 Sermokala wrote:
Now that they have lukaku I see huge things for Manu's offence. Rashford and martial on the wings and pogba attacking in the middle is some dangerous shit maybe not barca level but top of the PL for sure.
Lmao, Rashford and Martial have yet to show anything more than promises and they're not natural wingers, Pogba was played as a defensive midfielder last season and Lukaku still has an awful first touch.
Clearly not top3 attacking force in PL, maybe not even top4 depending on Arsenal keeping Sanchez and Lacazette adapting to PL.
Mourinho is about the bus anyway.
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Why would one join PSG if not for the money. The team that's so stacked can't even win the league last season.
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On July 23 2017 17:02 nojok wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2017 10:03 Sermokala wrote:
Now that they have lukaku I see huge things for Manu's offence. Rashford and martial on the wings and pogba attacking in the middle is some dangerous shit maybe not barca level but top of the PL for sure. Lmao, Rashford and Martial have yet to show anything more than promises and they're not natural wingers, Pogba was played as a defensive midfielder last season and Lukaku still has an awful first touch. Clearly not top3 attacking force in PL, maybe not even top4 depending on Arsenal keeping Sanchez and Lacazette adapting to PL. Mourinho is about the bus anyway.
rashford and martial are still young and yet to cement their places in the team so id let that argument pass.
your comment about pogba however just shows you havent watched man utd last season at all. the bus comment only further backs what i just said. theres a reason why fans like the current man utd a lot more than van gaals man utd, and its not cause we loved mou before he got here
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On July 23 2017 23:09 evilfatsh1t wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2017 17:02 nojok wrote:On July 23 2017 10:03 Sermokala wrote:
Now that they have lukaku I see huge things for Manu's offence. Rashford and martial on the wings and pogba attacking in the middle is some dangerous shit maybe not barca level but top of the PL for sure. Lmao, Rashford and Martial have yet to show anything more than promises and they're not natural wingers, Pogba was played as a defensive midfielder last season and Lukaku still has an awful first touch. Clearly not top3 attacking force in PL, maybe not even top4 depending on Arsenal keeping Sanchez and Lacazette adapting to PL. Mourinho is about the bus anyway. rashford and martial are still young and yet to cement their places in the team so id let that argument pass. your comment about pogba however just shows you havent watched man utd last season at all. the bus comment only further backs what i just said. theres a reason why fans like the current man utd a lot more than van gaals man utd, and its not cause we loved mou before he got here
Pogba barely took any risk because he was so far down the pitch and I gave up before half time when watching ManU. On the other hand, City, Tottenham and Chelsea all provided some entertaining games. I don't think Pogba being a bit higher up on the field and Lukaku replacing Zlatan is enough to match them in the attacking department. Anyway, ManU only needed one goal in all of those draws, those changes might be enough to make them title contenders but not the best attacking force of PL.
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On July 23 2017 20:49 DucK- wrote:
Why would one join PSG if not for the money. The team that's so stacked can't even win the league last season.
Doesnt this apply for all those money throwing English teams too? If you want to join a reliable league performer, you only have Bayern in Europe. Or well.. in a way this Barca-Real Duo is reliable on top of LaLiga.
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On July 24 2017 01:22 mahrgell wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2017 20:49 DucK- wrote:
Why would one join PSG if not for the money. The team that's so stacked can't even win the league last season. Doesnt this apply for all those money throwing English teams too? If you want to join a reliable league performer, you only have Bayern in Europe. Or well.. in a way this Barca-Real Duo is reliable on top of LaLiga.
"You only have Bayern in Europe"? o.O wow....
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quality penalties in Real v Yainted
https://streamable.com/7095r
Sidenote, does turquoise have some meaning in Spain or was someone in the design team just drunk? Not just one, no all three 2017/18 kits wtf
![[image loading]](http://puu.sh/wRKdc/befee3321b.png)
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Kenedy's fucking stupid. Why do pro players think they would get away from making such stupid remarks.
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Charlie Sheens House51489 Posts
Yeah if he has "banned" us from China which i highly doubt he has as im sure they will be fine when Chelsea donate something to China or promise them something in return. He needs to watch himself as the guy was a real talent in his first season, but last season he never got a kick and his pre season game vs Arsenal he was absolutely awful lol. Career might be over at Chelsea after that one.
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Real vs ManUtd penalty shootout showed us what happens when goalkeeper get their 50-50 right and guess the correct side.
Penalty shooting has become abysmal in the last 10 years.
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On July 25 2017 03:37 sharkie wrote:
Real vs ManUtd penalty shootout showed us what happens when goalkeeper get their 50-50 right and guess the correct side.
Penalty shooting has become abysmal in the last 10 years.
The kicks were poorly taken though..
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Good decision.
Major League Soccer rejected a $4 billion global media rights deal from international media company MP & Silva, as reported by the Sports Business Journal.
The offer, which would have quadrupled the annual rate of MLS' current deal, came with the significant contingency that MLS would have to institute a system of promotion and relegation.
The proposed deal would have run for 10 years starting in 2023, after the current deal with ESPN, Fox and Univision expires.
Those broadcasters have "exclusive negotiating windows and renewal rights," MLS said in a statement Monday, and thus the league would be unable to consider Silva's offer, no matter the terms.
"As was stated to [MP & Silva Group's founding partner Riccardo] Silva both in person and in a subsequent letter, Major League Soccer is prohibited contractually from engaging in discussions about our media rights with other distributors," said Dan Courtemanche, MLS executive vice president of communications.
"We are not in a position, nor are we interested, in engaging with Mr. Silva on his proposal."
Silva, as the co-owner of Miami FC of the second-tier NASL, has a vested interest in seeing promotion and relegation added to the United States, given that MLS is taking steps toward officially awarding a new team in Miami to a group led by David Beckham.
Without promotion and relegation, Silva's Miami FC has no route to join MLS in the top flight. An attempt to reach Silva through Miami FC was unsuccessful.
According to the SBJ, Silva made a presentation to MLS executives and owners on June 26. At that meeting, Silva offered to pay $4 billion for MLS' worldwide media rights, including the U.S. and Canada, at which point MP & Silva would sell on those rights around the world.
Courtemanche also rejected the concept of a third-party intermediary in media deals.
"It is also important to note that since its inception, MLS, like the other North American leagues, has dealt directly with its domestic broadcast partners, rather than through agents and brokers," the statement continued. "This ensures that the league and its partners can structure an agreement that addresses all elements, such as scheduling, marketing and digital distribution, that are required for a successful partnership."
Given that the U.S. Soccer Federation has sanctioned two leagues -- the NASL and the USL -- with Division II status, it's unclear exactly how a system of promotion and relegation would work, but generally speaking, if the proposal were accepted, after every season, the worst teams in MLS would be relegated to either the NASL or the USL, while the best teams from those leagues would move up to MLS.
The insistence on instituting a system of promotion and relegation is also a nonstarter with MLS. Commissioner Don Garber has long stated that such a system would not be considered.
MLS is currently engaged in its latest round of expansion and is asking for expansion fees of $150 million. It's almost certain that either demand would dry up or the fee would be significantly reduced if an expansion candidate were told that it could be relegated to a lower league, be it the NASL or the USL.
Beyond Beckham's Miami team, MLS' current expansion plans call for two expansion teams to be awarded this year, with two more to follow, bringing the league to an eventual 28 teams, which would be the largest top division in the world.
Beckham exercised his MLS option for an expansion team in 2014, more than a year before Silva founded Miami FC, and the former star player is finally making progress on building a stadium after years of delays. Miami FC plays at Florida International's football stadium, which in April was renamed after Silva.
Source
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On July 25 2017 08:30 DucK- wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2017 03:37 sharkie wrote:
Real vs ManUtd penalty shootout showed us what happens when goalkeeper get their 50-50 right and guess the correct side.
Penalty shooting has become abysmal in the last 10 years. The kicks were poorly taken though..
But that's how most penaltys are taken nowadays though.
I have been complaining about bad penalties for years but everyone kept ignoring it because the goalkeepers always guessed the wrong side which apparently makes it a "good" penalty then.
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Charlie Sheens House51489 Posts
On July 25 2017 08:39 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:Good decision. Show nested quote +Major League Soccer rejected a $4 billion global media rights deal from international media company MP & Silva, as reported by the Sports Business Journal.
The offer, which would have quadrupled the annual rate of MLS' current deal, came with the significant contingency that MLS would have to institute a system of promotion and relegation.
The proposed deal would have run for 10 years starting in 2023, after the current deal with ESPN, Fox and Univision expires.
Those broadcasters have "exclusive negotiating windows and renewal rights," MLS said in a statement Monday, and thus the league would be unable to consider Silva's offer, no matter the terms.
"As was stated to [MP & Silva Group's founding partner Riccardo] Silva both in person and in a subsequent letter, Major League Soccer is prohibited contractually from engaging in discussions about our media rights with other distributors," said Dan Courtemanche, MLS executive vice president of communications.
"We are not in a position, nor are we interested, in engaging with Mr. Silva on his proposal."
Silva, as the co-owner of Miami FC of the second-tier NASL, has a vested interest in seeing promotion and relegation added to the United States, given that MLS is taking steps toward officially awarding a new team in Miami to a group led by David Beckham.
Without promotion and relegation, Silva's Miami FC has no route to join MLS in the top flight. An attempt to reach Silva through Miami FC was unsuccessful.
According to the SBJ, Silva made a presentation to MLS executives and owners on June 26. At that meeting, Silva offered to pay $4 billion for MLS' worldwide media rights, including the U.S. and Canada, at which point MP & Silva would sell on those rights around the world.
Courtemanche also rejected the concept of a third-party intermediary in media deals.
"It is also important to note that since its inception, MLS, like the other North American leagues, has dealt directly with its domestic broadcast partners, rather than through agents and brokers," the statement continued. "This ensures that the league and its partners can structure an agreement that addresses all elements, such as scheduling, marketing and digital distribution, that are required for a successful partnership."
Given that the U.S. Soccer Federation has sanctioned two leagues -- the NASL and the USL -- with Division II status, it's unclear exactly how a system of promotion and relegation would work, but generally speaking, if the proposal were accepted, after every season, the worst teams in MLS would be relegated to either the NASL or the USL, while the best teams from those leagues would move up to MLS.
The insistence on instituting a system of promotion and relegation is also a nonstarter with MLS. Commissioner Don Garber has long stated that such a system would not be considered.
MLS is currently engaged in its latest round of expansion and is asking for expansion fees of $150 million. It's almost certain that either demand would dry up or the fee would be significantly reduced if an expansion candidate were told that it could be relegated to a lower league, be it the NASL or the USL.
Beyond Beckham's Miami team, MLS' current expansion plans call for two expansion teams to be awarded this year, with two more to follow, bringing the league to an eventual 28 teams, which would be the largest top division in the world.
Beckham exercised his MLS option for an expansion team in 2014, more than a year before Silva founded Miami FC, and the former star player is finally making progress on building a stadium after years of delays. Miami FC plays at Florida International's football stadium, which in April was renamed after Silva. Source
Why would that be bad though? I skimmed through it but, more money into MLS means even more players will be drawn to play in it for a start. The better level players = better quality, which should improve the national team remember. On top of that you get a relegation system and it might draw in more people?
I guess it seems he has only offered this because he wants to get Miami from where they are into the MLS which at this moment in time is impossible for his team to achieve.
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On July 25 2017 16:42 Pandemona wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2017 08:39 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:Good decision. Major League Soccer rejected a $4 billion global media rights deal from international media company MP & Silva, as reported by the Sports Business Journal.
The offer, which would have quadrupled the annual rate of MLS' current deal, came with the significant contingency that MLS would have to institute a system of promotion and relegation.
The proposed deal would have run for 10 years starting in 2023, after the current deal with ESPN, Fox and Univision expires.
Those broadcasters have "exclusive negotiating windows and renewal rights," MLS said in a statement Monday, and thus the league would be unable to consider Silva's offer, no matter the terms.
"As was stated to [MP & Silva Group's founding partner Riccardo] Silva both in person and in a subsequent letter, Major League Soccer is prohibited contractually from engaging in discussions about our media rights with other distributors," said Dan Courtemanche, MLS executive vice president of communications.
"We are not in a position, nor are we interested, in engaging with Mr. Silva on his proposal."
Silva, as the co-owner of Miami FC of the second-tier NASL, has a vested interest in seeing promotion and relegation added to the United States, given that MLS is taking steps toward officially awarding a new team in Miami to a group led by David Beckham.
Without promotion and relegation, Silva's Miami FC has no route to join MLS in the top flight. An attempt to reach Silva through Miami FC was unsuccessful.
According to the SBJ, Silva made a presentation to MLS executives and owners on June 26. At that meeting, Silva offered to pay $4 billion for MLS' worldwide media rights, including the U.S. and Canada, at which point MP & Silva would sell on those rights around the world.
Courtemanche also rejected the concept of a third-party intermediary in media deals.
"It is also important to note that since its inception, MLS, like the other North American leagues, has dealt directly with its domestic broadcast partners, rather than through agents and brokers," the statement continued. "This ensures that the league and its partners can structure an agreement that addresses all elements, such as scheduling, marketing and digital distribution, that are required for a successful partnership."
Given that the U.S. Soccer Federation has sanctioned two leagues -- the NASL and the USL -- with Division II status, it's unclear exactly how a system of promotion and relegation would work, but generally speaking, if the proposal were accepted, after every season, the worst teams in MLS would be relegated to either the NASL or the USL, while the best teams from those leagues would move up to MLS.
The insistence on instituting a system of promotion and relegation is also a nonstarter with MLS. Commissioner Don Garber has long stated that such a system would not be considered.
MLS is currently engaged in its latest round of expansion and is asking for expansion fees of $150 million. It's almost certain that either demand would dry up or the fee would be significantly reduced if an expansion candidate were told that it could be relegated to a lower league, be it the NASL or the USL.
Beyond Beckham's Miami team, MLS' current expansion plans call for two expansion teams to be awarded this year, with two more to follow, bringing the league to an eventual 28 teams, which would be the largest top division in the world.
Beckham exercised his MLS option for an expansion team in 2014, more than a year before Silva founded Miami FC, and the former star player is finally making progress on building a stadium after years of delays. Miami FC plays at Florida International's football stadium, which in April was renamed after Silva. Source Why would that be bad though? I skimmed through it but, more money into MLS means even more players will be drawn to play in it for a start. The better level players = better quality, which should improve the national team remember. On top of that you get a relegation system and it might draw in more people? I guess it seems he has only offered this because he wants to get Miami from where they are into the MLS which at this moment in time is impossible for his team to achieve.
Yes, the formula:
More money -> better players -> better national team
is a proven success story!
Also it is very Eurocentric to believe a relegation system having only upsides, especially for the league itself  Especially given that it should be simply impossible for the league to introduce it due to contractual obligations with the franchise teams.
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Charlie Sheens House51489 Posts
Well yeah but that is just another downside to the league itself at the moment. I mean from the East looking into the MLS we all question the system they have in place where they play loads of games for the at the end go into a play off format to find the overall winner etc.
Plus like i said these new franchises they come into the league system can't break into the main competition at all until contracts run out and teams are physically replaced which isn't very good at all.
It will work in America that system of more money better players etc, because aren't they doing salary cap formula which basically means they have 3-4 big stars in the squad then the rest are normally talent from the US etc. So pumping more money into it will give much better success to those training with them week in week out. Isn't America's best player now Pulisic who is Dortmund squad player at 18 and is already proving that just training with good players in a good system benefits him way more.
Pumping more money into the MLS so they can get the better players so all the squads are having top quality 3-4 players meaning the rest can all learn more etc. That's my logic anyway xD
Ignore the premier league model though because we don't have caps on salary nor foreign players in a squad really, as players like Cesc Fabregas and Lukaku count as Home Grown xD
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On July 25 2017 18:13 mahrgell wrote:Also it is very Eurocentric to believe a relegation system having only upsides, especially for the league itself
We are just very mean people, that is all.
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