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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-25 13:35:01
July 25 2017 13:33 GMT
#6541
On July 25 2017 22:28 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2017 21:27 Pandemona wrote:
Bayern final is the only time that happened, but that was a joke it being allowed to go ahead in their backyard as it was.

What, did you want them to change the location of the CL finals on short notice because the home team happened to make it?

Yes they now made it a rule has to be a back up venue because the ticket distribution was 99.9% Bayern fans was a joke. Due to how the final ticket scheme works.


Bayern best players are Renato and Rodriguez though, looked extremely good. The German kids that came out at the end were very shite lol. Just fouled and fouled and fouled some more. Then had cheek to moan and kick ball away!
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
July 25 2017 13:40 GMT
#6542
On July 25 2017 22:33 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2017 22:28 Elentos wrote:
On July 25 2017 21:27 Pandemona wrote:
Bayern final is the only time that happened, but that was a joke it being allowed to go ahead in their backyard as it was.

What, did you want them to change the location of the CL finals on short notice because the home team happened to make it?

Yes they now made it a rule has to be a back up venue because the ticket distribution was 99.9% Bayern fans was a joke. Due to how the final ticket scheme works.

You got a source for any of that or is this trademark Chelsea whining?
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
July 25 2017 13:43 GMT
#6543
Yes go look at how tickets are distributed its;
30% - 30% to both teams then 40% of the tickets are left to go on general sale to "uefa scheme" aka all local fans which happen to be Bayern...
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
July 25 2017 13:47 GMT
#6544
On July 25 2017 22:43 Pandemona wrote:
Yes go look at how tickets are distributed its;
30% - 30% to both teams then 40% of the tickets are left to go on general sale to "uefa scheme" aka all local fans which happen to be Bayern...

You just saying that isn't a reliable source, except for Chelsea whining.
I'm really interested especially about that final backup location rule change, surely you will be able to find an article about that...
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4234 Posts
July 25 2017 13:48 GMT
#6545
On July 25 2017 22:33 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2017 22:28 Elentos wrote:
On July 25 2017 21:27 Pandemona wrote:
Bayern final is the only time that happened, but that was a joke it being allowed to go ahead in their backyard as it was.

What, did you want them to change the location of the CL finals on short notice because the home team happened to make it?

Yes they now made it a rule has to be a back up venue because the ticket distribution was 99.9% Bayern fans was a joke. Due to how the final ticket scheme works.


Bayern best players are Renato and Rodriguez though, looked extremely good. The German kids that came out at the end were very shite lol. Just fouled and fouled and fouled some more. Then had cheek to moan and kick ball away!


What do you mean Renato? Renato Sanches? Wow
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
July 25 2017 13:54 GMT
#6546
European football's governing body said that 41,500 tickets for the Cardiff final would be available for fans and the general public, with the two finalists set to receive 18,000 each to distribute to their fans and a further 5,500 will be offered for sale to fans worldwide through UEFA's website.


That means that a nice 24,500 plus 5,500 are UEFA's to distribute how they want to; "local" fans via the UEFA scheme and the rest are distributed out as UEFA want to. It was the same in the Allianz but it was even smaller at 75,000 and Chelsea recived 17,500 tickets and Bayern 17,500 with the rest divided up to UEFA scheme and corporate crap. Which is why 90% of Chelsea fans where in the old Olympic park bit outside
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
July 25 2017 14:00 GMT
#6547
On July 25 2017 22:48 KobraKay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2017 22:33 Pandemona wrote:
On July 25 2017 22:28 Elentos wrote:
On July 25 2017 21:27 Pandemona wrote:
Bayern final is the only time that happened, but that was a joke it being allowed to go ahead in their backyard as it was.

What, did you want them to change the location of the CL finals on short notice because the home team happened to make it?

Yes they now made it a rule has to be a back up venue because the ticket distribution was 99.9% Bayern fans was a joke. Due to how the final ticket scheme works.


Bayern best players are Renato and Rodriguez though, looked extremely good. The German kids that came out at the end were very shite lol. Just fouled and fouled and fouled some more. Then had cheek to moan and kick ball away!


What do you mean Renato? Renato Sanches? Wow


Bayern wish Pande really would be an English manager. They would love nothing more than finding some English club, where they could dump this dead weight kid....
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-25 14:08:41
July 25 2017 14:08 GMT
#6548
He was the best player on the pitch in the midfield? He broke up many of the plays Chelsea had, was always involved in dropping in and filling holes. Was having way more influence than Cesc did on the ball as well. I can't honestly say i know who was playing alongside him lets put it that way and that is the reason Bayern were so strong in the first half because it was 3vs2 in the midfield. Muller Renato plus 1.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
July 25 2017 14:30 GMT
#6549
That definitely was one of Sanches' best games for Bayern. Granted it's a worthless pre-season game, but it's something. His first year at Bayern was atrocious, small steps would be a start already if he wants to stay at Bayern/they want to keep him.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
July 25 2017 15:33 GMT
#6550
On July 25 2017 23:00 mahrgell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2017 22:48 KobraKay wrote:
On July 25 2017 22:33 Pandemona wrote:
On July 25 2017 22:28 Elentos wrote:
On July 25 2017 21:27 Pandemona wrote:
Bayern final is the only time that happened, but that was a joke it being allowed to go ahead in their backyard as it was.

What, did you want them to change the location of the CL finals on short notice because the home team happened to make it?

Yes they now made it a rule has to be a back up venue because the ticket distribution was 99.9% Bayern fans was a joke. Due to how the final ticket scheme works.


Bayern best players are Renato and Rodriguez though, looked extremely good. The German kids that came out at the end were very shite lol. Just fouled and fouled and fouled some more. Then had cheek to moan and kick ball away!


What do you mean Renato? Renato Sanches? Wow


Bayern wish Pande really would be an English manager. They would love nothing more than finding some English club, where they could dump this dead weight kid....

Bayern is Real's PL club in James' case.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4234 Posts
July 25 2017 15:33 GMT
#6551
On July 25 2017 23:08 Pandemona wrote:
He was the best player on the pitch in the midfield? He broke up many of the plays Chelsea had, was always involved in dropping in and filling holes. Was having way more influence than Cesc did on the ball as well. I can't honestly say i know who was playing alongside him lets put it that way and that is the reason Bayern were so strong in the first half because it was 3vs2 in the midfield. Muller Renato plus 1.


One of you was drunk. Either you or Renato I did not see the game and I reckon miracles happen but it would be strange that after one year without playing he would be capable of doing something that he was only able to do against the medíocre teams in our league.
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
July 25 2017 15:44 GMT
#6552
On July 26 2017 00:33 KobraKay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2017 23:08 Pandemona wrote:
He was the best player on the pitch in the midfield? He broke up many of the plays Chelsea had, was always involved in dropping in and filling holes. Was having way more influence than Cesc did on the ball as well. I can't honestly say i know who was playing alongside him lets put it that way and that is the reason Bayern were so strong in the first half because it was 3vs2 in the midfield. Muller Renato plus 1.


One of you was drunk. Either you or Renato I did not see the game and I reckon miracles happen but it would be strange that after one year without playing he would be capable of doing something that he was only able to do against the medíocre teams in our league.

It's not just me!
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/10961445/chelsea-2-3-bayern-munich-talking-points-from-pre-season-clash
Sky Sports guy who watched game also picks out Renato as the best player on the pitch
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
July 25 2017 15:59 GMT
#6553
Ay my opinion of batman still hasn't changed. Not convinced that he will turn out good for Chelsea, and he has been given many chances. Yea he scores when we dominate games, but when the game is tough, he often has zero impact. He can't hold the ball, can't dribble. All he does is control the ball and flick it to someone immediately because he is not strong enough. I don't see him as someone who you can rely on to perform.

Morata looks class though.

And Chelsea definitely was missing Luiz in defence. I think he is an integral part of it due to his aggressive movements. Christensen feels too static to my liking, so definitely not a replacement for Luiz. Maybe take over from Cahill? I think Zouma would be the long term replacement for Luiz instead.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 25 2017 16:37 GMT
#6554
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
July 25 2017 17:03 GMT
#6555
On July 26 2017 00:59 DucK- wrote:
Ay my opinion of batman still hasn't changed. Not convinced that he will turn out good for Chelsea, and he has been given many chances. Yea he scores when we dominate games, but when the game is tough, he often has zero impact. He can't hold the ball, can't dribble. All he does is control the ball and flick it to someone immediately because he is not strong enough. I don't see him as someone who you can rely on to perform.

Morata looks class though.

And Chelsea definitely was missing Luiz in defence. I think he is an integral part of it due to his aggressive movements. Christensen feels too static to my liking, so definitely not a replacement for Luiz. Maybe take over from Cahill? I think Zouma would be the long term replacement for Luiz instead.

Batshuayi is very good, probably not good enough to be a starter for a C1 contender but good enough to be a squad player or the main forward of a middle European team. And he was not given a chance, 7 starts spread over 10 months is not enough.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18179 Posts
July 25 2017 18:02 GMT
#6556
On July 25 2017 22:54 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
European football's governing body said that 41,500 tickets for the Cardiff final would be available for fans and the general public, with the two finalists set to receive 18,000 each to distribute to their fans and a further 5,500 will be offered for sale to fans worldwide through UEFA's website.


That means that a nice 24,500 plus 5,500 are UEFA's to distribute how they want to; "local" fans via the UEFA scheme and the rest are distributed out as UEFA want to. It was the same in the Allianz but it was even smaller at 75,000 and Chelsea recived 17,500 tickets and Bayern 17,500 with the rest divided up to UEFA scheme and corporate crap. Which is why 90% of Chelsea fans where in the old Olympic park bit outside


That doesn't really have anything to do with what you claimed: that there's a backup venue in case of the home team winning through. Pretty sure the backup venue is there in case of some shit hitting the fan and the match not being playable in the chosen stadium. The "home" team making it to the finals shouldn't cause a change of venue. It's like complaining that Brazilian fans outnumbered the other teams' fans during the last world cup. Yes. Duh?
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
July 25 2017 18:14 GMT
#6557
Yes the world cup is different though as it is internationally done that way. The European Cup venue changes to take it around Europe and it is also not England's fault that the home of one of the club's has the "national stadium".
In England you don't get the problem, same with Wales just, the national stadiums are not affiliated with any club (ok this year Spurs is at Wembley but that is only temporary, Chelsea will be next year too but still )
There was a huge hoo hah about it in the build up and aftermath of the 2012 Cup because Bayern fans got all the extra tickets plus obviously they were swindling there way into the corporate ticket availability as well, you only have to go look at the game again to see it is basically a home game with Chelsea away fans, there was 0 noise when Chelsea scored the equalizer, you could probably here the fans out in the Olympic square or whatever it was instead as that is where we all were.

Now i can't find conformation of it but hopefully it comes up again soon/one day so we can see.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
July 25 2017 18:27 GMT
#6558
On July 26 2017 03:14 Pandemona wrote:
Yes the world cup is different though as it is internationally done that way. The European Cup venue changes to take it around Europe and it is also not England's fault that the home of one of the club's has the "national stadium".
In England you don't get the problem, same with Wales just, the national stadiums are not affiliated with any club (ok this year Spurs is at Wembley but that is only temporary, Chelsea will be next year too but still )
There was a huge hoo hah about it in the build up and aftermath of the 2012 Cup because Bayern fans got all the extra tickets plus obviously they were swindling there way into the corporate ticket availability as well, you only have to go look at the game again to see it is basically a home game with Chelsea away fans, there was 0 noise when Chelsea scored the equalizer, you could probably here the fans out in the Olympic square or whatever it was instead as that is where we all were.

Now i can't find conformation of it but hopefully it comes up again soon/one day so we can see.

You can't find confirmation because there was no decision to have a backup venue ready. And the only place that had controversy about Bayern hosting was in England, because well... Chelsea whining.
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
July 25 2017 19:41 GMT
#6559
On July 26 2017 03:27 sneirac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2017 03:14 Pandemona wrote:
Yes the world cup is different though as it is internationally done that way. The European Cup venue changes to take it around Europe and it is also not England's fault that the home of one of the club's has the "national stadium".
In England you don't get the problem, same with Wales just, the national stadiums are not affiliated with any club (ok this year Spurs is at Wembley but that is only temporary, Chelsea will be next year too but still )
There was a huge hoo hah about it in the build up and aftermath of the 2012 Cup because Bayern fans got all the extra tickets plus obviously they were swindling there way into the corporate ticket availability as well, you only have to go look at the game again to see it is basically a home game with Chelsea away fans, there was 0 noise when Chelsea scored the equalizer, you could probably here the fans out in the Olympic square or whatever it was instead as that is where we all were.

Now i can't find conformation of it but hopefully it comes up again soon/one day so we can see.

You can't find confirmation because there was no decision to have a backup venue ready. And the only place that had controversy about Bayern hosting was in England, because well... Chelsea whining.

Playing football manager with hacks, still whine
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34172 Posts
July 25 2017 20:34 GMT
#6560
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
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