EPTAlso I never said we boo our own athletes, I said we boo other athletes when they're competing against Brazilians. People were clapping for Lavillenie before Thiago started to become a threat. When that happened we booed him to put pressure. After it ended people clapped for him.
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dmnum
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Also I never said we boo our own athletes, I said we boo other athletes when they're competing against Brazilians. People were clapping for Lavillenie before Thiago started to become a threat. When that happened we booed him to put pressure. After it ended people clapped for him. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21712 Posts
On August 16 2016 21:23 dmnum wrote: We boo others to support our athletes when they are competing(and when we want someone to him), get off your high horse, you don't set the norms for cheering. Also Lavillenie sounds like a proper wank, didn't congratulate Thiago after his win and hasn't talked to him for over a year. And just compared Brazilians to nazis. When pretty much the entire world has a certain norm (booing is bad) and you alone have a different meaning then yes, you are the one in the wrong. | ||
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fabiano
Brazil4644 Posts
On August 16 2016 21:19 Gorsameth wrote: "We are always shit" is not an acceptable excuse for being shit. If a simple booing is soooo unacceptable, then certainly the olympics shouldnt be held here, nor any other sports event. Sincerely, even Hope Solo played along the crowd booing her, sending kisses and whatnot. What this french dude said is just a losers way to justify his loss. | ||
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dmnum
Brazil6910 Posts
On August 16 2016 21:35 Gorsameth wrote: When pretty much the entire world has a certain norm (booing is bad) and you alone have a different meaning then yes, you are the one in the wrong. At one point the entire world thought slavery was ok, does that mean it was right? Just an absurd example to illustrate how your point makes no sense whatsoever. Next thing you know people are going to be complaining that Brazilians don't cheer as loudly for all athletes as they do for Brazilians. | ||
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mahrgell
Germany3943 Posts
On August 16 2016 21:37 fabiano wrote: If a simple booing is soooo unacceptable, then certainly the olympics shouldnt be held here, nor any other sports event. The world has noticed that by now. And will hopefully follow through for a long time with it. But thanks for reminding us. | ||
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dmnum
Brazil6910 Posts
On August 16 2016 21:38 mahrgell wrote: The world has noticed that by now. And will hopefully follow through for a long time with it. But thanks for reminding us. Thanks mr. spokesman for the rest of the world. | ||
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fabiano
Brazil4644 Posts
On August 16 2016 21:38 mahrgell wrote: The world has noticed that by now. And will hopefully follow through for a long time with it. But thanks for reminding us. No problem. Just hope one day the world start to become less sensitive and touchy. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21712 Posts
On August 16 2016 21:38 dmnum wrote: At one point the entire world thought slavery was ok, does that mean it was right? Just an absurd example to illustrate how your point makes no sense whatsoever. Norms change over time, and who knows perhaps one day booing will be normal and then by all means remind me of this but right now the vast majority of the world does not think positively about booing athletes. On August 16 2016 21:37 fabiano wrote: If a simple booing is soooo unacceptable, then certainly the olympics shouldnt be held here, nor any other sports event. Yes, plenty of people have said that Brazil should not have gotten the olympics (tho for different reasons). | ||
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Sbrubbles
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fLyiNgDroNe
Belgium4010 Posts
On August 16 2016 21:35 Gorsameth wrote: When pretty much the entire world has a certain norm (booing is bad) and you alone have a different meaning then yes, you are the one in the wrong. however much of the entire world also thinks that vuvuzela sound during the sports events is annoying. Yet there is a huge country with such culture. There are other examples in other places of the world, where cheering is different due to cultural differences, so why not just accept it? I dont get this generalization to be honest. I think part of what Olympic does is to get a feeling of different cultures, but also spread the love for the fair sport to the places where it is necessary. Pretty sure Brazilians will learn from this, so how is this bad? | ||
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mahrgell
Germany3943 Posts
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fLyiNgDroNe
Belgium4010 Posts
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mahrgell
Germany3943 Posts
On August 16 2016 21:55 fLyiNgDroNe wrote: so basically you are saying that Brazil culture is shit? I say that it is not suitable to host Olympic Games. | ||
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dmnum
Brazil6910 Posts
On August 16 2016 21:43 Gorsameth wrote: Norms change over time, and who knows perhaps one day booing will be normal and then by all means remind me of this but right now the vast majority of the world does not think positively about booing athletes. Yes, plenty of people have said that Brazil should not have gotten the olympics (tho for different reasons). Let me clear: I agree with you that Brazil should not have gotten the Olympics. Too much violence, pollution and lack of organization to justify hosting the event. That death of the German coach? Inexcusable. The Chinese delegation getting caught in the middle of a gun fight? Inexcusable. However, the people at the stadium are not one of the reasons Brazil shouldn't be hosting the Olympics. It's our culture to cheer intensively for our athletes and try to destabilize the opponents with booing. I'm not saying you should love it; in fact, you could hate it with a passion, and you can have a 1000 reasons for that. I only have a problem when you start saying Brazilians are shit and try to pass yourself as some sort of 21th century Jesse Owens when you didn't even congratulate the guy that beat you and looked annoyed every time some competitor completed a jump. edit: I also find it funny that the Olympic games are all about "bringing the world together", but as soon as someone does something that is outside the norm everybody loses their shit. | ||
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Sbrubbles
Brazil5776 Posts
On August 16 2016 21:55 fLyiNgDroNe wrote: so basically you are saying that Brazil culture is shit? Of course he isn't, how can "banana culture" be anything but positive? | ||
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fLyiNgDroNe
Belgium4010 Posts
On August 16 2016 21:57 mahrgell wrote: I say that it is not suitable to host Olympic Games. Brazilian culture is not suitable to host OG? On a basis of what? | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21712 Posts
On August 16 2016 21:55 fLyiNgDroNe wrote: so basically you are saying that Brazil culture is shit? No, I'm saying they are incredibly bad mannered for not conforming to international social norms when having a couple of thousand 'guests' over for the Olympic games. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21712 Posts
On August 16 2016 21:58 dmnum wrote: Let me clear: I agree with you that Brazil should not have gotten the Olympics. Too much violence, pollution and lack of organization to justify hosting the event. That death of the German coach? Inexcusable. The Chinese delegation getting caught in the middle of a gun fight? Inexcusable. However, the people at the stadium are not one of the reasons Brazil shouldn't be hosting the Olympics. It's our culture to cheer intensively for our athletes and try to destabilize the opponents with booing. I'm not saying you should love it; in fact, you could hate it with a passion, and you can have a 1000 reasons for that. I only have a problem when you start saying Brazilians are shit and try to pass yourself as some sort of 21th century Jesse Owens when you didn't even congratulate the guy that beat you and looked annoyed every time some competitor completed a jump. edit: I also find it funny that the Olympic games are all about "bringing the world together", but as soon as someone does something that is outside the norm everybody loses their shit. Using an internationally broadly recognized method for insulting someone (booing) is not "bringing the world together". | ||
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dmnum
Brazil6910 Posts
On August 16 2016 22:05 Gorsameth wrote: Using an internationally broadly recognized method for insulting someone (booing) is not "bringing the world together". Well, in our culture booing is not always meant as an insult. Sometimes, like yesterday, it means "we hope you lose and your guy wins". Sometimes it means we don't like cheats(I know, ironic considering it's Brazil), like how we booed Gatlin and Ustinova. And sometimes we just do it for shits and giggles, like how people were yelling "uh vai morrer" during table tennis matches. Welcome to Brazil, this is how we cheer, have always cheered and most likely will continue to cheer. | ||
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stilt
France2749 Posts
On August 16 2016 21:23 dmnum wrote: We boo others to support our athletes when they are competing(and when we want someone to him), get off your high horse, you don't set the norms for cheering. Also Lavillenie sounds like a proper wank, didn't congratulate Thiago after his win and hasn't talked to him for over a year. And just compared Brazilians to nazis. He apologies for his declaration and congratulates his opponent. But yeah, respect is really not the word who will be remember for this olympic. Even our lovely neighbours did not boo french athletes like this in 2012. :D But hey, appearingly, acting as jerks is some cultural shit in Brasil, like the booing of Fred in the semi final of the last World Cup, you were booing a striker for a 7-1 defeat, how ridiculous. | ||
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