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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
May 19 2017 19:44 GMT
#641
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fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4009 Posts
May 20 2017 08:41 GMT
#642
dunno guys, to me MAF wasn't all that impressive this offseason and was basically lucky to face teams throwing a lot of easy pucks at him. Oh and lol remember the HUGE save everyone was talking about? This is definitely skill.

Murray potentially is much more skilled and consistent so if Pitt wants to get the cup its a safer choice.
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32056 Posts
May 21 2017 15:43 GMT
#643
On May 17 2017 03:02 Flaccid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2017 06:04 Orcasgt24 wrote:
Wow....Eberle is taking a shit kicking from the fans and media. I'm not gonna defend his lack of production in the postseason but one bad playoffs does not suddenly make you a terrible player who needs to be traded asap.


Yeah, Eberle had a pretty off year

I'm going to throw a couple charts up here and go from there:

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Now point your eyes at the Sh% columns. Holy sweet jeebus fuck. There is snake-bitten, and then there is Jordan Eberle circa 2016-2017. Here is the full page and it is worth looking at: http://stats.hockeyanalysis.com/showplayer.php?pid=1342

Anyone who argues the uselessness of Jordan Eberle without including the context of his Sh% is missing a big piece of the story. You can certainly back up the 'off year' narrative using these regular season numbers - numbers that saw his powerplay Sh%, for example, go from 17.5% a season ago to fucking 8.8% this year. Hell.

And this fit what the eye saw this season as well - at times it seemed like Eberle was never going to score, ever again in his life given the unreal saves that went against him and the complete lack of anything even resembling the smallest amount of luck in his favour. He was consistently creating chances and getting good looks - but just nothing was going his way.

Buuuuuuuuut....

Now we have to address the issue of Jordan Eberle, the playoff performer. Even without scoring, we saw his ability to generate offense in the regular season. The points weren't coming but you kind of knew they would. Eventually. He was still doing those Jordan Eberle things. You can't make that argument in regards to how he played in the playoffs. He was completely invisible.

Eberle is, and always has been a very one-dimensional player. It's allowed because his one dimension, producing offense, is the most important dimension in hockey. The downside though, is that when Eberle isn't producing, he brings nothing else. In fact, it's a net negative. It's not like RNH - who can go weeks without scoring but still bring value to every shift. RNH was, in my opinion, the MVP of the San Jose series. Eberle doesn't have that in his game, so he needs to score.

And he will score. But maybe not in the playoffs. Ever. Perhaps it's a symptom of the tighter checking in the playoffs or, specifically, the nature of the teams that Edmonton encountered in the first two rounds, but Eberle was rendered completely ineffective. He has never been a fast player, or a strong player, but the nature of the playoffs truly exposed these weaknesses. He lacked either the strength or the speed (or both) to create any separation for himself at any point in any game ever. There was just no clean air and it was horribly obvious that he could do nothing about it.

And that's what sucks. There is no doubt his Sh% will recover and he will score again. But he remains, right now, a player who has not shown that he can score in the playoffs. And he, as a one-dimensional player, needs to score. And Edmonton, as a team that wants to challenge for Stanley Cups in the McDavid era, needs players who can provide value in difficult playoff situations. Unfortunately, it is completely justified if they are doubting Eberle's ability to be one of those guys.

FWIW, I love Eberle and I hope they keep him and find a situation that works for him and the team. But the Oilers always sell low so I'm sure they'll trade him for a 5th round pick and retain salary so wtf do I know fuck it.

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this tattoo rules

I've been loving this Ducks-Preds series. Sucks that RyJo is out for the playoffs. Acute compartment syndrome from taking a knee to the thigh that didn't seem all that hard tbh. But that can be really dangerous.

Nashville's C depth really drops off after him. They still have a goddamn crazy blueline though
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
May 21 2017 16:41 GMT
#644
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32056 Posts
May 23 2017 04:39 GMT
#645
fuk ya pk and nashville
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Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
May 23 2017 05:38 GMT
#646
On May 23 2017 13:39 QuanticHawk wrote:
fuk ya pk and nashville

Fuck yeah indeed. Stupid ducks. I knew their ignore the rules approach to to games would not be an asset against Nashville like it was against in Edmonton
In Hearthstone we pray to RNGesus. When Yogg-Saron hits the field, RNGod gets to work
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4009 Posts
May 23 2017 07:15 GMT
#647
all we need now is for Pens to finish Ott and we'll get ourselves one fun finals!
Drone is a way of living
Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
May 24 2017 04:49 GMT
#648
Sens force Game 7!
In Hearthstone we pray to RNGesus. When Yogg-Saron hits the field, RNGod gets to work
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4009 Posts
May 24 2017 09:06 GMT
#649
On May 24 2017 13:49 Orcasgt24 wrote:
Sens force Game 7!


this is ridiculous. I haven't seen games unfortunately, can someone knowledgable sum up, how is it possible for Ott to win 3 from Pens? All i heard is "impenetrable defense" which is funny when you have 7-0 games. Is this due to Pens missing some players in the roster?
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32056 Posts
May 24 2017 14:13 GMT
#650
Anderson came up big and the Sens system doesn't typically give up a lot of good chances.
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32056 Posts
May 24 2017 15:05 GMT
#651
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Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
May 26 2017 04:36 GMT
#652
God damn it.

Go Preds Go!!!
In Hearthstone we pray to RNGesus. When Yogg-Saron hits the field, RNGod gets to work
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4009 Posts
May 26 2017 07:17 GMT
#653
lol
Pens always seem to find that one missing element to pass through. Its like an endless source of talent.
I'm happy with the finals though. Both teams are fast and offensive, should produce nice games.
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
May 26 2017 20:35 GMT
#654
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Flaccid
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
8836 Posts
May 29 2017 15:42 GMT
#655
I "don't"...

miss

jimmy ... "j"
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TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10009 Posts
May 29 2017 22:34 GMT
#656
lawd stanley
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
May 29 2017 23:01 GMT
#657
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Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-30 04:10:29
May 30 2017 00:59 GMT
#658
On May 30 2017 08:01 JimmiC wrote:
I'm gonna go with Nash in 6!

I'm going with Pitt in 5 now that I have seen how the series will be reffed. That "offside" was more inside than any goal allowed on previous challenges that stood this playoffs and then the refs gift Pitt a full 2 min 2 man advantage while ignore Crosby's penalty on the exact same play.

James Kneel took a cross check right in front of Murray and used that as an excuse to accidently on purpose drive a knee into Murray's head not a second after they scored.

I can't imagine this not being an NHL record. Pittsburgh has scored 2 goals on there last two shots. Those two shots were 37 minutes apart.
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zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
May 30 2017 05:11 GMT
#659
if pitt wins, their style of play from last year to this year can't be any more different
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6644 Posts
May 30 2017 23:05 GMT
#660
With refs like that Pittsburgh in 4. That was disgusting to watch.
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