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@Melliflue hitting high with your shoulder is actually a poor way to try to tackle a bigger player! You go low (hips/thigh/knees). Since Newton wasn't a runner how was he supposed to brace for hits? QB's aren't supposed to protect themselves from impact - that's how you throw interceptions.
My issues is that those were also very close to being late hits. It wasn't even a situation where he could have been a runner. (I don't take issue with the first hit where he was already going down because his change of position resulted in being hit in the helmet and the defender wasn't leading with the crown.)
I'm already disappointed with the refereeing and lack (or laxness) of the concussion protocol. I'm hoping fines don't complete the trifecta. (54 and 26 clearly led with the crown AND left their feet!)
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The hit by 54 was terrible and should have been flagged. I'm not defending that at all.
But for the hit by 26: Hitting a QB on/below the knees is also banned so there's still risk in going low, moreover there was a teammate (48) trying to wrap up Newton's legs so I think going high was okay.
I think a QB should be treated more like a runner when they leave the pocket. If a QB would throw an interception by trying to protect themself while on the run then they shouldn't be trying to throw the ball. That's what I meant by saying Newton should have taken the sack. Newton wasn't even trying to throw the ball to anyone, he was trying to get an incompletion instead of a sack and I think that was not worth making himself more vulnerable to the hit.
I don't think it was a late hit. It wasn't clear whether Newton would be brought down by 48 on his legs so 26 has to hit him. Can 26 pull out of that tackle after Newton throws the ball?
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On September 10 2016 17:49 y0su wrote:
I'm already disappointed with the refereeing and lack (or laxness) of the concussion protocol. I'm hoping fines don't complete the trifecta. (54 and 26 clearly led with the crown AND left their feet!)
"They asked me questions, but nothing too serious," Newton said. "I don't know (what was asked), there's too much going through my head right now for me to remember what happened."
1 big sign of head trauma is the inability to remember things happening just before and just after you hitt your head.
i can't wait for one of these neurotrauma officials to take a QB out of a playoff game in the 4th quarter.
In fact, this can reward violent behaviour. If I know the neurotrauma specialist is going to take Tom Brady out of the game and i'm a rarely used 2nd string lineman i'll deal with the suspension. if i take out Brady and we knock the Patriots out of the playoffs i'm a hero.
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Not remembering what was asked could also be a sign of you being the quarterback with plenty other stuff on your mind during a game. I agree some of the house should've been flagged, but don't try and diagnose someone on such a statement.
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the NFL has invited such speculation with their poor track record. its also important to watch him when he says the quote.
i laughed at this comment about the game:
"This is an amazing ending to the game. I wonder who gets to tell Cam Newton about it."
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masoli breaks tackles like a running back and plays QB. Burris is declining as an athlete. i picked him because of the majority of his career he was top athlete on whatever team he played. how many CFL running backs have 6000 rushing yards? many times Burris was the #2 rusher on his team... he plays the sneak going through the middle of the front line. The guy does it all.
On September 11 2016 00:16 JimmiC wrote:
No it's not, what is important is the neurologist questions and tests, not speculation by people who want controversy
there is nothing controversial about not trusting the NFL or anyone on a football field.
here is the settlement the NFL agreed to.
"the lawsuit was a combination of hundreds of actions brought by more than 5,000 ex-NFL players, the settlement applies to all players who retired on or before July 7, 2014, according to Judge Anita Brody's 132-page decision."
when u settle with 5000+ players you are inviting mistrust and acknowledging systemic, institutionalized wrong-doing.
i don't trust the NFL and its not like i'm the only one. their track record fosters mistrust. The NFL's bullshit has been going on for many decades. I don't think its stopping in 2016.
Oh and...
Go Bills Go! ! !
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An independent neurologist who actually talked to him and examined him cleared him. I think you can safely take off your tinfoil hat.
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On September 11 2016 01:46 Ghostcom wrote:
An independent neurologist who actually talked to him and examined him cleared him. I think you can safely take off your tinfoil hat.
you think accusing someone on the football field of lying requires a tinfoil hat?
when is Tom Brady playing again?
most adults are liars. no tinfoil hat needed.
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On September 11 2016 01:49 JimmiC wrote:
The crux of your arguement is that if the NFL had CFL fields they would have all running qbs, or at least a lot more. Well lets pretend your right and burris masoli and lulay are the best athletes on their team (come on man). by your stats there are 33% running qbs.
Now lets look at the NFL
Russel Wilson
Cam Newton
RG3
Andrew Luck
Tanninhill
Aaron Rodgers
Dak Preskot
Tyrod Taylor
Kapernick/gabbert
Basically the same percentage. In the end it's not the size of the field that creates putting a stud athlete at QB. It's that you don't want your most important player getting injured, availability is the best asset. Teams would keep trying to have there guy stay in the pocket as much as they could.
yes, the NFL has become a lot more like the CFL the last 30 years.
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TIL Masoli still plays professionally
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If the NFL had CFL fields games would be incredibly high scoring, which is why college football is slowly turning me off. The championship game last year was like 48-45 between two top 3 defenses, which is unacceptable.
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On September 11 2016 01:56 JimmyJRaynor wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2016 01:46 Ghostcom wrote:
An independent neurologist who actually talked to him and examined him cleared him. I think you can safely take off your tinfoil hat. you think accusing someone on the football field of lying requires a tinfoil hat? when is Tom Brady playing again? most adults are liars. no tinfoil hat needed.
I mean given how its been proven Brady did nothing wrong and Goedells punished him at the behest of owners who are pissed at how good the Pats have been for so long and the nflpa is basically powerless so he can suspend any one for anything he wants, you're right its pretty safe to assume anyone can be corrupt in the nfl
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On September 11 2016 02:24 JimmiC wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2016 01:56 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On September 11 2016 01:49 JimmiC wrote:
The crux of your arguement is that if the NFL had CFL fields they would have all running qbs, or at least a lot more. Well lets pretend your right and burris masoli and lulay are the best athletes on their team (come on man). by your stats there are 33% running qbs.
Now lets look at the NFL
Russel Wilson
Cam Newton
RG3
Andrew Luck
Tanninhill
Aaron Rodgers
Dak Preskot
Tyrod Taylor
Kapernick/gabbert
Basically the same percentage. In the end it's not the size of the field that creates putting a stud athlete at QB. It's that you don't want your most important player getting injured, availability is the best asset. Teams would keep trying to have there guy stay in the pocket as much as they could. yes, the NFL has become a lot more like the CFL the last 30 years. it must be nice to just change your perspective and argument so often and yet always feeling right. Masoli is like a "good backup" in the cfl. http://ticats.ca/players/148680
huh? my perspective remains identical. i'd prefer the NFL to play on a CFL field with CFL rules. it would be the best. that perspective has not changed in 10 years. its no wonder the CFL was so popular in Canada in the 70s and early 80s with how boring NFL games were back then and how athletic the CFL QBs were. its been a good move by the NFL to make the game more like the CFL.
i don't really think there is a "right" or "wrong" here. its just my subjective taste in what i like to see when i watch football. have fun arguing with urself though.
On September 11 2016 02:25 cLutZ wrote:
If the NFL had CFL fields games would be incredibly high scoring, which is why college football is slowly turning me off. The championship game last year was like 48-45 between two top 3 defenses, which is unacceptable.
true, you'd have to take it to 3 downs if it were a full CFL sized field.
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ya. i said early 80s which ends in 1983 or maybe 84 if you want to stretch it. so we're talking about guys like Warren Moon and Conredge Holloway. the NFL is not the CFL. i never said it was. again, i stated the NFL game has become more like CFL style of game over the last 30 years.
by the mid 80s the USFL and NFL starting taking the CFL's best players. once the QB colour barrier was broken in the NFL the quality of CFL QBs declined. the quality of play and athleticism declined along with interest in the CFL game. This is why the CFL declined in the mid 80s. if the best black QBs in the world were all playing in the CFL the league would be a lot more popular.
i do not know why the NFL changed. i'm just glad it did. just try watching games from the 70s and 80s. talk about boring. Super Bowl 8 is the drug-free method of inducing sleep in insomniacs.
One of the reasons i think the NFL changed is that the guys running the league are geniuses who know how to give their customers what they want.
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