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On August 30 2016 03:40 giftdgecko wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2016 02:47 andrewlt wrote:On August 29 2016 14:44 y0su wrote:
Off the top of my head I can't think of the last time a QB really carried his team to/in the SB.
I believe it was either the Drew Brees one or the Aaron Rodgers one, can't remember which came last. That was 5+ years ago. For just playoffs, Joe Flacco submitted one of the best playoff runs by a QB in NFL history. He proved that sample sizes matter. On August 30 2016 02:33 cLutZ wrote:On August 30 2016 02:24 ZasZ. wrote:On August 29 2016 22:54 JimmiC wrote:
Football is truly the ultimate team sports, even coaches play a huge roll compared to other sports and not just the head coaches but the assistants as well. And yet still the qbs get way way to much credit in victory and way too much blame in defeat.
In a wide note this is only half true of Russel Wilson who played awful in the super bowl 2 years ago finished the game with a end zone pick took 0 flack. Dude is made of Teflon when it domes to critism The only reason he didn't receive the same criticism that Cam got last year for pussying out on a fumble is because it was a bad play to call to begin with. Sure, Wilson could have not thrown an interception, but if they had given the rock to Lynch that power wouldn't have been in his hands. Easier to blame Carroll than Wilson for that one. He had a 110 QB rating in the game, so I don't know that you could say he played awful. Also, he had already won a SB, which makes you a Teflon QB for years if you win a SB early on. Even Tom Brady, one of the best of all time, wasn't really that good of a quarterback until his 4th season, but the media was already parading him around as amazing because he had 2 rings. Sports media has trouble getting past first impressions. They write narratives full of hyperbole early on in a player's career and it's just impossible to change the narrative once it's written. I think the media changed their tune on Kaep pretty drastically. It still takes some time, but it does happen.
Kaep didn't win a Superbowl, though. It is much harder and takes far longer to happen for Superbowl winners.
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On August 30 2016 04:44 andrewlt wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2016 03:40 giftdgecko wrote:On August 30 2016 02:47 andrewlt wrote:On August 29 2016 14:44 y0su wrote:
Off the top of my head I can't think of the last time a QB really carried his team to/in the SB.
I believe it was either the Drew Brees one or the Aaron Rodgers one, can't remember which came last. That was 5+ years ago. For just playoffs, Joe Flacco submitted one of the best playoff runs by a QB in NFL history. He proved that sample sizes matter. On August 30 2016 02:33 cLutZ wrote:On August 30 2016 02:24 ZasZ. wrote:On August 29 2016 22:54 JimmiC wrote:
Football is truly the ultimate team sports, even coaches play a huge roll compared to other sports and not just the head coaches but the assistants as well. And yet still the qbs get way way to much credit in victory and way too much blame in defeat.
In a wide note this is only half true of Russel Wilson who played awful in the super bowl 2 years ago finished the game with a end zone pick took 0 flack. Dude is made of Teflon when it domes to critism The only reason he didn't receive the same criticism that Cam got last year for pussying out on a fumble is because it was a bad play to call to begin with. Sure, Wilson could have not thrown an interception, but if they had given the rock to Lynch that power wouldn't have been in his hands. Easier to blame Carroll than Wilson for that one. He had a 110 QB rating in the game, so I don't know that you could say he played awful. Also, he had already won a SB, which makes you a Teflon QB for years if you win a SB early on. Even Tom Brady, one of the best of all time, wasn't really that good of a quarterback until his 4th season, but the media was already parading him around as amazing because he had 2 rings. Sports media has trouble getting past first impressions. They write narratives full of hyperbole early on in a player's career and it's just impossible to change the narrative once it's written. I think the media changed their tune on Kaep pretty drastically. It still takes some time, but it does happen. Kaep didn't win a Superbowl, though. It is much harder and takes far longer to happen for Superbowl winners.
Kaep has had a legitimate regression since that Super Bowl season. His kind of dropoff is very uncommon.
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Also, he's mixed bad play with generally being a clown. He always is doing goofy things like wearing the gear of other NFL teams, missing practices, his "trade me" antics, etc. People would still have a lot of people judging him on potential rather than results if he was more invisible and boring.
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United States97276 Posts
Browns traded their punter Andy Lee and a 7th for the Panther's punter Kasey Redfern and a 4th
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United States97276 Posts
Panthers are pretty much a lock for 19-0 now. That field position. gg
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On August 30 2016 05:32 cLutZ wrote:
Also, he's mixed bad play with generally being a clown. He always is doing goofy things like wearing the gear of other NFL teams, missing practices, his "trade me" antics, etc. People would still have a lot of people judging him on potential rather than results if he was more invisible and boring.
yeah this is the same retard who thought it was a good idea to comment on the houston flooding last year with 'S7TORMS COMING'
Kap hasn't regressed as much as he never progressed. That 8-8 year was him being unable to grasp higher level NFL throws and they stuck with the half field read bullshit.
The off the stuff controversy is all on him. He is a magnet for dumb attention
I would be amazed if he is on the team next year
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To comment further, I am actually shocked that BLM has embraced him. When I was in High School/College in classes I would hope that the dumb kids would not attempt to argue the same point as me. This seems like the current Colin Kaepernick situation: he is a dumb kid, thus having him on your side is a net negative.
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I agree with that so much. I've been seeing a surge of posts from my racist Facebook friends over the Kaep situation. He's going to damage that movement more than help it.
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Even if you accept the validity of the message, Kaep clearly is the wrong messenger given his recent history, which is a bad combination of worsening play and increasing attention whoring. The biggest problem is that, to the extent that it wasn't a fait accompli already, Kaep has likely permanently lost the Niners locker room as a result of this mess.
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Caldeum1977 Posts
Really bad news for the Vikings if Bridgewater is out for any length of time.
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Ouch, a knee injury.
EDIT: C'mon, Vikings. You know you want to trade for Kaepernick....
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I'm getting flashbacks to culpepper and his knee injury.
Well the backup wasn't that shit in preseseason I guess. time for more years of meteocrity with a good defence covering for a shit fest offence.
On August 31 2016 04:47 xDaunt wrote:
Ouch, a knee injury.
EDIT: C'mon, Vikings. You know you want to trade for Kaepernick....
well we have a child beater on the team. kaepernick would have a pretty low bar to win the lockerroom over him.
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United States97276 Posts
xDaunt, Smelter was practicing today in full pads. FEEL THE HYPE. Fantasy sleeper of the year!
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Eh. Sweaty Teddy isn't that much of an improvement over a backup. One of several QBs that people are overhyped about, like the Oakland guy.
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coming within one short kick of beating the panthers in the playoffs last year would disagree with you. As would his stats and any objective look at him compared to the rest of the QB's in the league.
Oh god I reminded myself of the kick why you do this to me.
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United States97276 Posts
wasn't the kick vs the Seahawks?
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For the first time in two years, I should have a schedule that'll allow me to actually follow and enjoy football, both college and pro. Gonna be a good fall 
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On August 31 2016 05:31 Shellshock wrote:
xDaunt, Smelter was practicing today in full pads. FEEL THE HYPE. Fantasy sleeper of the year!
I've been reading the camp reports. Smelter did little to stand out before his injury. Plus, the Niners seem inept at developing their own receivers. That may have something to do with having Blaine Fucking Gabbert as the QB, but I'm very far from getting excited about Smelter or any aspect of the Niners passing game.
Except I do kinda like Vance McDonald as a sleeper TE in fantasy because Gabbert actually likes throwing to him.
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