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chrisolo
Germany2614 Posts
On February 26 2016 22:09 city42 wrote: Wow, horrible draw again for Tottenham. At least a round of 16 exit will keep the players fresh for the final PL stretch. I wouldnt be so sure of an exit. If I had to bet, it probably would be on Tottenham. 60-40 in their favour imho. | ||
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sharkie
Austria18763 Posts
On February 26 2016 22:18 Pandemona wrote: No i wouldn't say Dortmund is the better side overall either. I would say it is a pure 50-50 game with both first team 11s playing. Augomon vs Kane this season is no difference That is all there is really. How is Spurs vs Dortmund a 50-50? Dortmund is a proven European side while Tottenham can't even finish top4... | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
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sharkie
Austria18763 Posts
On February 27 2016 00:14 Pandemona wrote: Tottenham are 2 points off league leaders this season, Dortmund way off the pace 8 points adrift. Dortmund and Spurs players 1-11 are pretty much even as i said before. Spurs have 1 goal scorer above 15 goals so do Dortmund, they are literally the same team. Do you not realise how sucky your league has become when Leiceister is still #1 after 26 match days? Tottenham's position in the table doesn't mean anything. Neither does BVB's as they are clearly second best in Germany. Also Europe != National league. You English will never understand that one I guess | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
But again 1-11 you telling me Dortmund players > Spurs? no way not on any planet. Spurs vs Dortmund in last 16 champions league we get the proper game, this europa league mickey mouse game u might as well just heads or tails depending if spurs want to play it or not. | ||
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Skynx
Turkey7150 Posts
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On February 27 2016 00:42 Skynx wrote: I wouldn't call dortmund proven european side. They were at one point but since then lost their manager, 2 best players, rest of the team is in a slump and they nearly got relegated. They are imo pretty similar with spurs in terms of form right now but then again there are no proper tools to compare them. I don't really see how you can objectively say this. First, let's remember that there is no actual evidence that the Premier League is a tougher league than the Bundesliga, despite English excuses, so current domestic table comparisons are only mildly valid, and really have no bearing on Tottenham vs. Dortmund. Comparing stats shows that Dortmund has a generally better offense and a worse defense (and a better possession game), although these are (again) skewed by the different number of games, scheduling pattern, etc. Second, Dortmund has been in Europe every year for the past 6 years, during which time they've had several quality performances and one finals performance. Not only this, but every year except this year and 2010 has been a CL year. They've also had 3 trophies - 2 Bundesliga trophies and a DFB Pokal trophy, along with 3 other DFB Pokal final appearances. Dortmund's only bad year was last year, and the only bad thing about it was their performance in the Bundesliga, where they still climbed from 17th to 7th in the span of 17 games (I think this set some kind of record), made it to the DFB Pokal final, and made it to the CL knockout, where they were booted by last year's 2nd place team Juventus. Dortmund is having a record-breaking domestic year that is only overshadowed by Bayern, which happens to be one of the undisputed best 2 clubs in Europe. So yes, I think it's safe to say that Dortmund is an extremely good side that is a proven European contender. Realistically, they belong in the CL far more than teams like Wolfsburg, Gent, or Kyiv do, and would have a quality shot at making the final 4 if they were in the CL this year. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On February 27 2016 03:08 Pandemona wrote: No one is discussing past achivements, hell 50 years ago Liverpool was relevant but that isn't the issue. Your 1-11 side now matches up to spurs 50-50 you might have Reus being better than the most of there midfielders which i would concede but they have the better back 4 and the keeper is miles better than yours so it all balances out. Reason if Spurs take it seriously or if this was a RO16 Champions league tie then i would see it being a 50-50 game. Actually we were explicitly discussing past achievements when talking about if Dortmund is a "proven European side". Pay attention Pande! Aside from that, I'm very skeptical of the idea that you can say, with a straight face, that Tottenham's best XI is as good as Dortmund's, but we'll just wait to see it on the pitch. It'll be a really great tie either way. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
 give me that next year in champions league for proper outcome imo though :3 | ||
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Dingodile
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
But then next season we need another good showing or at least again beat Italy. | ||
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lprk
Poland2249 Posts
On February 27 2016 03:47 Dingodile wrote: If juve and as rom are out now then 99,9% safe that england is 3rd for 2017/18 spot-distribution. 17/18 was never really in danger it's more about 18/19 as 11/12 will be erased next season and England got lot of points there while Italy season was rather dreadful. | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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Greg_J
China4409 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
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Acrofales
Spain18475 Posts
On February 29 2016 21:43 Pandemona wrote: Benfica beating Zenit though at the moment in the ro16, avoid defeat in Russia and they go to round of 8 they will outscore them heavily this season. Unless a Russian team or 2 get to semi finals of europa. how are a team or two going to do that when there are 0 Russian teams left in the EL? Portugal should clearly outscore Russia this year. They have to do it by enough points, though, and they have to do it again next year. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
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