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maze.
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1392 Posts
May 18 2016 20:40 GMT
#2681
Klopp goes 0/5 in his last five finals and pulls ar everse iloveoov.
Misery on Secret: I managed to get kicked twice from the same team before I got my share of the money. 4Head
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
May 18 2016 20:40 GMT
#2682
On May 19 2016 05:39 sneirac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2016 05:37 TRAP[yoo] wrote:
On May 19 2016 05:36 sneirac wrote:
On May 19 2016 05:34 Stratos_speAr wrote:
On May 19 2016 05:32 WillyWanker wrote:
On May 19 2016 05:30 Stratos_speAr wrote:
On May 19 2016 05:27 WillyWanker wrote:
On May 19 2016 05:25 sharkie wrote:
On May 19 2016 05:24 WillyWanker wrote:
On May 19 2016 05:21 DucK- wrote:
[quote]

True. Game should have been sealed at first half. 3-0 easily. Then Liverpool will play more defensively..

That's not how football works though... First penalty call, if they score there it doesn't mean they'll score the Sturridge goal anyway... You can make the case for the 2nd penalty call (Rami's handball is never a penalty) and that'd be a chance for 2-0.

All Sevilla goals are legit so...


I'd love to see your reaction if it was Barca that gets robbed and not Liverpool lol.
Fans of clubs are such hypocrites.

You can try to check my post history to find one where I complain about bad ref decisions in a game if you want. This game is even enough (1 half 1 half) to not say the ref decided the game, it's ridiculous.


Care to point out the two guaranteed (and 3rd possible) penalties that Sevilla were denied?

No?

Didn't think so.

Read the previous post, I explained it there. No need to be angry, Klopp fanboys.


I actually don't like Liverpool, I just don't like this sport bring so tarnished by poor refereeing.

And it's cute for you too think you have any kind of legitimacy as an unbiased poster.

In order to be tarnished by poor refereeing there need to be blatant miscalls. At least two of the three penalties you claim are either clear non calls or murky at best.

https://streamable.com/d5h7
If you think this is a clear penalty then you need to reread the rules/how referees are instructed to apply them.

wait what? how is that not a clear penalty?

Because there is no intent, the distance is too short to react to the oncoming ball and the hand position is not blatant enough to be judged unnatural.


Hand not blatant enough?

I can't take you seriously anymore.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4540 Posts
May 18 2016 20:41 GMT
#2683
Sturridge may well have aimed the ball at his hand lol, it was already there. I agree it's not a penalty.

2nd one for sure isn't a penalty either. Guy doesn't even see where the ball is and has 0 intention of touching it.

1st one was a penalty, ref probably too chicken to give it so early in the game. Too bad for Liverpool, but best team easily won.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-18 20:46:41
May 18 2016 20:42 GMT
#2684
On May 19 2016 05:34 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2016 05:32 WillyWanker wrote:
On May 19 2016 05:30 Stratos_speAr wrote:
On May 19 2016 05:27 WillyWanker wrote:
On May 19 2016 05:25 sharkie wrote:
On May 19 2016 05:24 WillyWanker wrote:
On May 19 2016 05:21 DucK- wrote:
On May 19 2016 05:19 Stratos_speAr wrote:
I think it speaks volumes about the integrity of this sport when the refereeing is consistently discussed more during finals than the actual game.

And yes, the referee has 100% decided the outcome of this game.


True. Game should have been sealed at first half. 3-0 easily. Then Liverpool will play more defensively..

That's not how football works though... First penalty call, if they score there it doesn't mean they'll score the Sturridge goal anyway... You can make the case for the 2nd penalty call (Rami's handball is never a penalty) and that'd be a chance for 2-0.

All Sevilla goals are legit so...


I'd love to see your reaction if it was Barca that gets robbed and not Liverpool lol.
Fans of clubs are such hypocrites.

You can try to check my post history to find one where I complain about bad ref decisions in a game if you want. This game is even enough (1 half 1 half) to not say the ref decided the game, it's ridiculous.


Care to point out the two guaranteed (and 3rd possible) penalties that Sevilla were denied?

No?

Didn't think so.

Read the previous post, I explained it there. No need to be angry, Klopp fanboys.


I actually don't like Liverpool, I just don't like this sport bring so tarnished by poor refereeing.

And it's cute for you to think you have any kind of legitimacy as an unbiased poster.


He didnt call you a Liverpool fanboy, he called you a Klopp fanboy so advising that you do not support liverpool is moot.

That having been said your overly aggressive reaction to the referee is a bit much. And its the same shit everytime its not really enriching anyones experience no more.

On May 19 2016 05:40 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2016 05:39 sneirac wrote:
On May 19 2016 05:37 TRAP[yoo] wrote:
On May 19 2016 05:36 sneirac wrote:
On May 19 2016 05:34 Stratos_speAr wrote:
On May 19 2016 05:32 WillyWanker wrote:
On May 19 2016 05:30 Stratos_speAr wrote:
On May 19 2016 05:27 WillyWanker wrote:
On May 19 2016 05:25 sharkie wrote:
On May 19 2016 05:24 WillyWanker wrote:
[quote]
That's not how football works though... First penalty call, if they score there it doesn't mean they'll score the Sturridge goal anyway... You can make the case for the 2nd penalty call (Rami's handball is never a penalty) and that'd be a chance for 2-0.

All Sevilla goals are legit so...


I'd love to see your reaction if it was Barca that gets robbed and not Liverpool lol.
Fans of clubs are such hypocrites.

You can try to check my post history to find one where I complain about bad ref decisions in a game if you want. This game is even enough (1 half 1 half) to not say the ref decided the game, it's ridiculous.


Care to point out the two guaranteed (and 3rd possible) penalties that Sevilla were denied?

No?

Didn't think so.

Read the previous post, I explained it there. No need to be angry, Klopp fanboys.


I actually don't like Liverpool, I just don't like this sport bring so tarnished by poor refereeing.

And it's cute for you too think you have any kind of legitimacy as an unbiased poster.

In order to be tarnished by poor refereeing there need to be blatant miscalls. At least two of the three penalties you claim are either clear non calls or murky at best.

https://streamable.com/d5h7
If you think this is a clear penalty then you need to reread the rules/how referees are instructed to apply them.

wait what? how is that not a clear penalty?

Because there is no intent, the distance is too short to react to the oncoming ball and the hand position is not blatant enough to be judged unnatural.


Hand not blatant enough?

I can't take you seriously anymore.


These are the words of a man who has never found himself square on defense...

And I want Liverpool to win. I fckin bet money !@#@! #$!. And 2-0 up the nature of the game can be alot different. Except Liverpool as a team probably wouldnt have adjusted tactically to being 2-0 in front alaa Mourinho so Sevilla scoring those goals was still a possibility.

Also people please dont make stupid arguments like "if it were X team or Y team then you would know", there are plenty of cases of lots of teams not getting calls they should have gotten. Haters just remember the ones that favor the team they dont like. Dont be a hater.
Deleted User 26513
Profile Joined February 2007
2376 Posts
May 18 2016 20:42 GMT
#2685
Klopp or not Liverpool are still garbage. The better team won.
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
May 18 2016 20:42 GMT
#2686
On May 19 2016 05:39 Faruko wrote:
I think that one is a penalty, but i can understand if its not called tbh

his hand is waaaaay too "away from his body" and even if its a natural position its blocking a huge space, but its also remarkably close to the ball so its hard to react to that

Exactly, this is a 50/50 call at best and I would have been okay with either, but it definitely isnt a clear penalty.
The first much more obvious as a non call because the arm is clearly in a natural position.
Can't say anything about the 3rd because I don't have a gif and don't really remember it.
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
TRAP[yoo]
Profile Joined December 2009
Hungary6026 Posts
May 18 2016 20:42 GMT
#2687
On May 19 2016 05:39 Faruko wrote:
I think that one is a penalty, but i can understand if its not called tbh

his hand is waaaaay too "away from his body" and even if its a natural position its blocking a huge space, but its also remarkably close to the ball so its hard to react to that

the short distance is the only argument for no penalty but as you said he is blocking too much space and thats definitely not allowed
FTD
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
May 18 2016 20:43 GMT
#2688
If it's not 3-0, then it's definitely 2-0 at least. The one where sturridge passed and hit the defender's hand. Would have put Liverpool in a comfortable position at halftime. I think the ref has played a huge part in this game.

However I'm not saying Liverpool deserved to win instead because their 2nd half was inexcusable. Sevilla played well and scored 3 legit goals. Furthermore, Liverpool actually looked clueless when attacking.

bObaZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
Portugal862 Posts
May 18 2016 20:43 GMT
#2689
On May 19 2016 05:35 Faruko wrote:
Is this ref this bad on a regular basis ?

because we should not be asking if the ref missed or not a penalty or if he was biased or not. the real quesiton is that how a ref like this get european finals


The final two years ago was way worse with 3 penaltys and one red card not showed. And it was Felix brych whom is considered a good ref...
WillyWanker
Profile Joined December 2011
France1915 Posts
May 18 2016 20:44 GMT
#2690
Spending so much time arguing about a ref's decision when AT MOST it would have been 2-0 (given Liverpool would have converted that penalty). If I follow your reasoning, then Sevilla would have scored anyway (because changed events don't change the future obviously, hence why Liverpool deserved to win 3-0 at half time :D), so it would have been 3-2, right?

Anyway, the most technical/tactical team won. Liverpool was better physically at the beginning and both teams got a huge morale boost after the goal (or huge morale loss for the other team).
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
May 18 2016 20:45 GMT
#2691
On May 19 2016 05:40 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2016 05:39 sneirac wrote:
On May 19 2016 05:37 TRAP[yoo] wrote:
On May 19 2016 05:36 sneirac wrote:
On May 19 2016 05:34 Stratos_speAr wrote:
On May 19 2016 05:32 WillyWanker wrote:
On May 19 2016 05:30 Stratos_speAr wrote:
On May 19 2016 05:27 WillyWanker wrote:
On May 19 2016 05:25 sharkie wrote:
On May 19 2016 05:24 WillyWanker wrote:
[quote]
That's not how football works though... First penalty call, if they score there it doesn't mean they'll score the Sturridge goal anyway... You can make the case for the 2nd penalty call (Rami's handball is never a penalty) and that'd be a chance for 2-0.

All Sevilla goals are legit so...


I'd love to see your reaction if it was Barca that gets robbed and not Liverpool lol.
Fans of clubs are such hypocrites.

You can try to check my post history to find one where I complain about bad ref decisions in a game if you want. This game is even enough (1 half 1 half) to not say the ref decided the game, it's ridiculous.


Care to point out the two guaranteed (and 3rd possible) penalties that Sevilla were denied?

No?

Didn't think so.

Read the previous post, I explained it there. No need to be angry, Klopp fanboys.


I actually don't like Liverpool, I just don't like this sport bring so tarnished by poor refereeing.

And it's cute for you too think you have any kind of legitimacy as an unbiased poster.

In order to be tarnished by poor refereeing there need to be blatant miscalls. At least two of the three penalties you claim are either clear non calls or murky at best.

https://streamable.com/d5h7
If you think this is a clear penalty then you need to reread the rules/how referees are instructed to apply them.

wait what? how is that not a clear penalty?

Because there is no intent, the distance is too short to react to the oncoming ball and the hand position is not blatant enough to be judged unnatural.


Hand not blatant enough?

I can't take you seriously anymore.

Oh please we see defenders with their arms low and to the side all the time, plus he is moving which makes it even harder to call. Oh and of course the point where the referee has only one angle without a chance to look at slomo replay.
This is not a blatant penalty, it would have been okay but its not a horribly botched call.
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2711 Posts
May 18 2016 20:46 GMT
#2692
On May 19 2016 05:40 maze. wrote:
Klopp goes 0/5 in his last five finals and pulls ar everse iloveoov.


So old school joke
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
May 18 2016 20:48 GMT
#2693
For the firmino penalty call, anyone thought it wasn't a handball but it should have been given for a foul?
WillyWanker
Profile Joined December 2011
France1915 Posts
May 18 2016 20:53 GMT
#2694
I used to play with N'Zonzi in my youth and now he's a European champion while I can't even run for 15 minutes xD
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-18 20:54:09
May 18 2016 20:53 GMT
#2695
On May 19 2016 05:31 WillyWanker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2016 05:29 Stratos_speAr wrote:
On May 19 2016 05:26 TRAP[yoo] wrote:
On May 19 2016 05:25 sharkie wrote:
On May 19 2016 05:24 WillyWanker wrote:
On May 19 2016 05:21 DucK- wrote:
On May 19 2016 05:19 Stratos_speAr wrote:
I think it speaks volumes about the integrity of this sport when the refereeing is consistently discussed more during finals than the actual game.

And yes, the referee has 100% decided the outcome of this game.


True. Game should have been sealed at first half. 3-0 easily. Then Liverpool will play more defensively..

That's not how football works though... First penalty call, if they score there it doesn't mean they'll score the Sturridge goal anyway... You can make the case for the 2nd penalty call (Rami's handball is never a penalty) and that'd be a chance for 2-0.

All Sevilla goals are legit so...


I'd love to see your reaction if it was Barca that gets robbed and not Liverpool lol.
Fans of clubs are such hypocrites.

wont happen...its barca


I was just about to say that the idea of the refs making a bad call against Barca is laughable.

Last minute penalty that didn't get called and would have been extra time against Atletico a month ago. There you have one. And I didn't complain about it during that game because that wasn't the reason Barça lost.


LOL, the Messi disallowed goal vs Atleti in the final game of the season Atleti won literally cost them the title and none of us even whimpered. It was what it was. Thats footy move on.
aseq
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands3975 Posts
May 18 2016 21:12 GMT
#2696
I turned off the match at minute 70 cos it was obvious another 20 min of spanish scumbaggery would follow. Too bad.
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
May 18 2016 21:22 GMT
#2697
Anyway Liverpool really missed a Gerrard figure. They looked leaderless
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
May 18 2016 21:51 GMT
#2698
On May 19 2016 06:22 DucK- wrote:
Anyway Liverpool really missed a Gerrard figure. They looked leaderless

Henderson never stepped up, nor he ever will. Even Klopp's Dortmund didn't have a real leadership figure on the field, though they did play very well. Maybe that's how he runs his ship I don't know.

Anyway, Sevilla played a much better football and deserved to win in my opinion. Liverpool needs to tighten their back four if they ever want to touch silverware again.

So that's like 3 Europa titles in a row for Sevilla. Man Liga clubs have been dominating Europe for a while eh?
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28634 Posts
May 18 2016 21:59 GMT
#2699
referee did not decide this game. liverpool completely dropping the ball when second half started decided this game. (And sevilla suddenly becoming good). I guess if it's just one leg, they count one half as the home game and another half as the away? or something?

Overall seemed deserved to me - I was also really cheering for liverpool. But they fucked up.. Their first half was really, really good, the first half of the second half incredibly bad, and sevilla had enough quality to capitalize. Sucks for liverpool, but the referee did not cause this.
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DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
May 18 2016 22:05 GMT
#2700
On May 19 2016 06:59 Liquid`Drone wrote:
referee did not decide this game. liverpool completely dropping the ball when second half started decided this game. (And sevilla suddenly becoming good). I guess if it's just one leg, they count one half as the home game and another half as the away? or something?

Overall seemed deserved to me - I was also really cheering for liverpool. But they fucked up.. Their first half was really, really good, the first half of the second half incredibly bad, and sevilla had enough quality to capitalize. Sucks for liverpool, but the referee did not cause this.


I would say that referee had a big factor. 2-0 into half time could have changed things. Lots of IFs and COULDs. But, the better team won and they deserved it for dominating the second half. Other times you would feel that the losing team got robbed with questionable decisions, but today you have to say they deserved the loss.
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