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On July 20 2016 22:51 Skynx wrote:
Pogba was the worst French midfielder in euros. If they do indeed sell him for 100 thats some very good business.
Not to mention that they only paid like 4 million to ManUtd when they bought him.
This is some really shitty managing from United honestly. Should have gone full Barcelona/Real and add a clause that allows you to buy him back after two years or something.
Now they're going to spend this unreasonable amount of money on a player who played in their own youth teams.
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On July 20 2016 22:53 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 22:51 Skynx wrote:
Pogba was the worst French midfielder in euros. If they do indeed sell him for 100 thats some very good business. Not to mention that they only paid like 4 million to ManUtd when they bought him. This is some really shitty managing from United honestly. Should have gone full Barcelona/Real and add a clause that allows you to buy him back after two years or something. Now they're going to spend this unreasonable amount of money on a player who played in their own youth teams.
didnt pogba leave on a free transfer?
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On July 20 2016 23:52 zev318 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 22:53 Elentos wrote:On July 20 2016 22:51 Skynx wrote:
Pogba was the worst French midfielder in euros. If they do indeed sell him for 100 thats some very good business. Not to mention that they only paid like 4 million to ManUtd when they bought him. This is some really shitty managing from United honestly. Should have gone full Barcelona/Real and add a clause that allows you to buy him back after two years or something. Now they're going to spend this unreasonable amount of money on a player who played in their own youth teams. didnt pogba leave on a free transfer?
Yes, MU only received like 500-600k compensation for training u21 player.
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On July 20 2016 23:52 zev318 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 22:53 Elentos wrote:On July 20 2016 22:51 Skynx wrote:
Pogba was the worst French midfielder in euros. If they do indeed sell him for 100 thats some very good business. Not to mention that they only paid like 4 million to ManUtd when they bought him. This is some really shitty managing from United honestly. Should have gone full Barcelona/Real and add a clause that allows you to buy him back after two years or something. Now they're going to spend this unreasonable amount of money on a player who played in their own youth teams. didnt pogba leave on a free transfer?
Idk the first site I checked said Juve paid like 3 million pound for Pogba, the next one says he joined after his contract ended.
Which honestly doesn't make it a whole lot better.
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Allardyce next England boss LOL
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On July 21 2016 03:42 zulu_nation8 wrote:
Allardyce next England boss LOL
Wasnt he basically the overwhelming favorite for the job the minute hodgson left?
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Woodward is a moron, I bet Juve just stated that price to scare everyone off and the idiot paid it
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I actually hope Juve increases the price even more now LOL
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I mean, overrated or not, he's one of the best in the world. Money is not a problem, lots of players leaving/retiring next year. If Woodward overpaid by 30-40 million I think everyone can live with that.
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On July 21 2016 04:37 zulu_nation8 wrote:
I mean, overrated or not, he's one of the best in the world. Money is not a problem, lots of players leaving/retiring next year. If Woodward overpaid by 30-40 million I think everyone can live with that.
Man no... I dunno why Pogba is so overhyped. I'll give you he's good in fifa, what does he contribute at the field?
His forward passing is average. His shooting is average. Sure he's physical and can keep the ball but you could buy Kante to do that too. He's not terribly fast or tiki-taka into the box or anything.
He didn't do anything amazing in past 2.5 years. I mean manu are just trying to squeeze Fellaini, Carrick and Mata in one player but is that worth the money?
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The first half for Bayern vs Man City was a pretty fun game, the 2nd half is really just a whole bunch of nothing (although I guess the only goal so far happened in the 2nd half).
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I don't watch Serie A so I don't know how he plays. But none of those players, and also Schneiderlin, Schweinsteiger, and Herrera are good enough or healthy/consistent enough to be first choice. Fellaini is basically a #10/striker now. Mata/Herrera are best as #10s. They won't be needed if Mkhitaryan is worth his fee. Carrick should've retired two seasons ago.
My only gripe is that we need to buy defenders, like Bonucci, and if no more are brought in, then this means Blind/Carrick will have to alternate at CD again if someone gets hurt, which will happen.
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Keep in mind that with Manu buying pogba they're getting a home grown at club trained player. Those are fantastically rare for world class players. Comparing him to sterling inflation would be more accurate.
Mata seems like a great impact AMC sub now with the system. Plus pogba might have some chemistry with martial set from the national team coming in these next few years.
a 4-2-3-1 with rashford martial depay pogba sounds like a devastating front 4 in a year or two. but by god that defence needs some money what are they doing.
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So Dortmund bought Götze again lol...
He will just leave in 2 years again, so stupid.
I really dislike Tuchel more and more. First his defeatist attitude in games vs Bayern and now we buy a crappy player back for much money. I don't even want to know his wages
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On July 21 2016 05:23 sharkie wrote:
So Dortmund bought Götze again lol...
He will just leave in 2 years again, so stupid.
I really dislike Tuchel more and more. First his defeatist attitude in games vs Bayern and now we buy a crappy player back for much money. I don't even want to know his wages
Honestly I think Götze is alright for 26 million, if he can get back to his BVB shape. He had very little play time at Bayern, so it didn't surprise me at all how terrible he played at the Euros. Schürrle on the other hand is inexcusable. He sucked at Chelsea, then he didn't even make it at Wolfsburg. Why would anyone pay ~30m for him?
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Now that I google it, seems Pogba isn't homegrown because he left 3 months early.
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Pogba completed his transfer to Manchester United on 7 October 2009
On 3 July 2012, Manchester United manager Alex Ferguson confirmed that Pogba had left the club after not signing a new contract
Well fuck me then
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Not saying Pogba is not overpriced, but:
- Man Utd total shirt sales last season was around 2.9m shirts, so thats roughly 260,000 shirts per player (I'm only dividing this by 11 of the main squad on the assumption that Pogba will definitely be one of the more popular players like Martial last year anyway so he will definitely net more sale than the rest of the team, so it should make up for using 11 players instead of the entire squad of 24 or sth)
- Average shirt price is around GBP50
- So that means if sales goes well, within a year Pogba will generate around GBP13 mil in revenue.
Even if you take out the costs and whatnot it's still quite a good return.
And let's not forget the better advertising deals United will get with more stars on their line-up.
So yea the GBP 100mil deal or whatever figure might look really retarded but from the business point of view it's really not that bad.
Also back when Utd let him go for almost nothing, there was nothing that guaranteed that he'd do well. He was a young player with potential yes, but he wanted more time on the main squad while the manager didn't think he was ready. Perhaps it was a bad read from Ferguson but the bloke was in his last year on the throne, I'd understand if he wanted a more established squad to win a title for the last time, rather than entrusting his faith on the youth. As a manager you will always have young and promising players who want to prove themselves on the first team, and you have to make a choice not knowing whether they'll turn out like Paul Pogba or freaking Ravel Morrison.
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I think Ferguson admitted in his memoir that letting Pogba go was his biggest mistake. It was around the time when Pique and Rossi were coming up, and Utd weren't rebuilding and they wanted first team experience which Fergie couldn't give them. I guess the stupid thing was not inserting a buy-back clause.
Also, to the people who watch Pogba in Serie A, does he disappear vs. smaller teams or in important games? He did well in the CL games I've watched.
This chart from reddit puts things into perspective as to the price. Veron was a big failure, and I can't imagine Pogba being the same:
![[image loading]](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnzlNmrW8AAlK2f.jpg)
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On July 21 2016 07:56 zulu_nation8 wrote:
I think Ferguson admitted in his memoir that letting Pogba go was his biggest mistake. It was around the time when Pique and Rossi were coming up, and Utd weren't rebuilding and they wanted first team experience which Fergie couldn't give them. I guess the stupid thing was not inserting a buy-back clause.
Also, to the people who watch Pogba in Serie A, does he disappear vs. smaller teams or in important games? He did well in the CL games I've watched.
This chart from reddit puts things into perspective as to the price. Veron was a big failure, and I can't imagine Pogba being the same:
Thanks for this very nice chart indeed. What a good buy Ji-Sung was! I'm pretty sure one year of Ji-Sung shirt sales in Korea should already make up for his transfer fee lol
edit: removed gigantic picture from quote
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