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zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
July 20 2016 23:31 GMT
#8101
how do u insert a buy back clause on someone who left on a free transfer?
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
July 20 2016 23:53 GMT
#8102
On July 21 2016 08:31 zev318 wrote:
how do u insert a buy back clause on someone who left on a free transfer?


You dont ?
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
July 21 2016 00:26 GMT
#8103
Sorry, I thought they were sold.
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
July 21 2016 02:08 GMT
#8104
On July 21 2016 08:53 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2016 08:31 zev318 wrote:
how do u insert a buy back clause on someone who left on a free transfer?


You dont ?


i thought so, was just wondering tho since 2 people mentioned it last page and im certainly not the most familiar with football contracts
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6322 Posts
July 21 2016 05:01 GMT
#8105
On July 21 2016 07:51 nayumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2016 04:11 Espers wrote:


Woodward is a moron, I bet Juve just stated that price to scare everyone off and the idiot paid it

Not saying Pogba is not overpriced, but:
- Man Utd total shirt sales last season was around 2.9m shirts, so thats roughly 260,000 shirts per player (I'm only dividing this by 11 of the main squad on the assumption that Pogba will definitely be one of the more popular players like Martial last year anyway so he will definitely net more sale than the rest of the team, so it should make up for using 11 players instead of the entire squad of 24 or sth)
- Average shirt price is around GBP50
- So that means if sales goes well, within a year Pogba will generate around GBP13 mil in revenue.

Even if you take out the costs and whatnot it's still quite a good return.

And let's not forget the better advertising deals United will get with more stars on their line-up.

So yea the GBP 100mil deal or whatever figure might look really retarded but from the business point of view it's really not that bad.

Also back when Utd let him go for almost nothing, there was nothing that guaranteed that he'd do well. He was a young player with potential yes, but he wanted more time on the main squad while the manager didn't think he was ready. Perhaps it was a bad read from Ferguson but the bloke was in his last year on the throne, I'd understand if he wanted a more established squad to win a title for the last time, rather than entrusting his faith on the youth. As a manager you will always have young and promising players who want to prove themselves on the first team, and you have to make a choice not knowing whether they'll turn out like Paul Pogba or freaking Ravel Morrison.


13gbp in revenue maybe but most of the revenue of shirt sales aren't profit. Lots of it goes to the sponsor etc. I read somewhere the average profit for a shirt is only €12 for the club. Pogba isn't going to get you any sponsorship deals either. Players like Ronaldo and Messi get you those not Pogba. Business wise this makes no sense. It's not a business decision.
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4189 Posts
July 21 2016 05:32 GMT
#8106
So this is pretty much confirmed? 100mil is pretty ridiculous, imo he's not like a game changer like Messi & Ronaldo. But at least he's still very young.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14211 Posts
July 21 2016 06:51 GMT
#8107
EPL money is EPL money and manu wasn't spending shit under the fergie years. Like it was said earlier Manu can make a ton more of that back on shirts if hes anywhere near as good as he should turn out to be.
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evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8930 Posts
July 21 2016 06:58 GMT
#8108
man utd doesnt make profit from shirts.
adidas takes shirt money in return for the massive sponsorship deal man utd got.
100m for pogba is a joke. hes no scholes or zidane and hes no zlatan or ronaldo (popularity wise).
man utd are rich as fuck anyway so honestly 100m isnt going to break the club, but overpaying for every single player we buy because woodward is an idiot that gets baited by every club that sells isnt doing much to help the clubs image. not to mention that we look absolutely retarded in the first place for having let pogba go for free.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
July 21 2016 07:29 GMT
#8109
On July 21 2016 15:58 evilfatsh1t wrote:
man utd doesnt make profit from shirts.
adidas takes shirt money in return for the massive sponsorship deal man utd got.
100m for pogba is a joke. hes no scholes or zidane and hes no zlatan or ronaldo (popularity wise).
man utd are rich as fuck anyway so honestly 100m isnt going to break the club, but overpaying for every single player we buy because woodward is an idiot that gets baited by every club that sells isnt doing much to help the clubs image. not to mention that we look absolutely retarded in the first place for having let pogba go for free.

Ofc clubs make profit from shirt... Martial then this dude, ManU wants to be the next arsenal but they buy all those young French players at ridiculous price. It did not work so well for Arsenal though xD

Tbh, it's in the same vein as James or Bale transfers to Madrid. And speaking of image, it might do exactly what they want to do, look super rich and powerful.
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
July 21 2016 07:50 GMT
#8110
Forget Pogba, England has the greatest manager ever <3 Big Sam! Be prepared world, Carroll and Crouch up front, set piece galore. Long ball, bypassing midfields, a rough approach to defending. It's going to be BEAUTIFUL <3 and so much passion from the big man. Russia 2016, easy
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Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4189 Posts
July 21 2016 08:40 GMT
#8111
On July 21 2016 15:51 Sermokala wrote:
EPL money is EPL money and manu wasn't spending shit under the fergie years. Like it was said earlier Manu can make a ton more of that back on shirts if hes anywhere near as good as he should turn out to be.


That's true, even Moyes didn't spend that much. Only under LVG did we start spending so much money. I'm really curious to see what's the justification for 100mil though.
anomalopidae
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Slovenia549 Posts
July 21 2016 09:28 GMT
#8112
On July 21 2016 16:50 Pandemona wrote:
Forget Pogba, England has the greatest manager ever <3 Big Sam! Be prepared world, Carroll and Crouch up front, set piece galore. Long ball, bypassing midfields, a rough approach to defending. It's going to be BEAUTIFUL <3 and so much passion from the big man. Russia 2016, easy


You might actually win an elimination game in future :D
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two_sheds
Profile Joined January 2012
Croatia104 Posts
July 21 2016 09:51 GMT
#8113
Marko Pjaca from Dinamo Zagreb to Juventus. Supposedly the sum is 23 mil €.

He is a winger, interesting to see if Juve will switch to 1 forward this season.
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
July 21 2016 11:13 GMT
#8114
On July 21 2016 18:28 anomalopidae wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2016 16:50 Pandemona wrote:
Forget Pogba, England has the greatest manager ever <3 Big Sam! Be prepared world, Carroll and Crouch up front, set piece galore. Long ball, bypassing midfields, a rough approach to defending. It's going to be BEAUTIFUL <3 and so much passion from the big man. Russia 2016, easy


You might actually win an elimination game in future :D

Haha, no we are going to win allllllll the games :D
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18761 Posts
July 21 2016 11:44 GMT
#8115
On July 21 2016 16:50 Pandemona wrote:
Forget Pogba, England has the greatest manager ever <3 Big Sam! Be prepared world, Carroll and Crouch up front, set piece galore. Long ball, bypassing midfields, a rough approach to defending. It's going to be BEAUTIFUL <3 and so much passion from the big man. Russia 2016, easy


Four weeks ago you were crying that teams played that way lol
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-21 11:56:48
July 21 2016 11:55 GMT
#8116
I think all of you are losing sight of what is happening in todays football

JUVENTUS IS WILLING TO PAY 100M FOR HIGUAIN, at that point, 100m for Pogba sounds like the deal of the century.

But its a world wide situation, players are at their highest point. Pogba is young, talented has a very marketeable image... Sure 100m is nuts, but then again JUVENTUS IS WILLING TO PAY 100M FOR HIGUAIN
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Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
July 21 2016 12:06 GMT
#8117
The thing is besides Higuain you only have like Lewandowski or Suarez who are better and we all know they will never get sold. Compare that with Pogba and you have quite a bunch of good alternatives.
This is our town, scrub
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18761 Posts
July 21 2016 12:07 GMT
#8118
Wtf Götze only had one year contract remaining and Dortmund seriously paid 22mil for this shit.
Wtf?

I want Tuchel gone
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 21 2016 12:20 GMT
#8119
On July 21 2016 21:06 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
The thing is besides Higuain you only have like Lewandowski or Suarez who are better and we all know they will never get sold. Compare that with Pogba and you have quite a bunch of good alternatives.

Aubameyang and Morata are good alternatives. I'd almost always prefer them over Higuain.

On a side note, why no one ever tries to buy-out Agüero? Some team like PSG perhaps?
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Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-21 12:22:08
July 21 2016 12:21 GMT
#8120
@ sharkie
come on its not that bad a deal. götze, reus, schürrle (lol 30) sounds somewhat promising doesnt it
This is our town, scrub
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