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Philozovic
Profile Joined August 2012
France1677 Posts
February 13 2015 17:42 GMT
#361
On February 13 2015 21:44 decafchicken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2015 16:46 RaFox17 wrote:
On February 13 2015 08:29 farvacola wrote:
I have to do crazy or different things in order to really get sore anymore. It's kinda sad

Soreness as a goal is not really ideal in my opinion. If you train till you can´t walk for three days it will hamper your training on those days you are broken as shit. It´s better to be able to train with good intensity for 2-3 days in a row than to train one day and then be broken for 2-3.

It's not the goal... But it feels good sometimes. I miss the soreness from squatting haven't done a heavy squat in months ugh.
I'm racing my roommate to a 315 squat. He's at 275 and I'm at 95 lol. This knee better heal up quick ^^


3 weeks of oly and I'm already squatting more than decaf, I'm so goood !

On a more serious note my snatch is apparently quite good for 3 weeks of work but I just can't understand how I'm supposed to clean, I've got a relatively strong upper body so I only use my arm to lift after I pass the knees and how I can avoid that is unclear to me (I've seen the high pull klokov video but seeing and doing is not the same !!!)

Snatch 30kg (4 triples) --> One at 60kg for the end of July (minimun to compet)
C&J 42,5kg (8 triples) --> One at 75kg for the end of July (minimun to compet)
Squat 62,5kg (5x5) --> One at 100kg for the end of July

BodyWeigh 63,5kg --> 69kg for the end of July
INnoVation is the absolute best | I wept for i knew his words to be true
RaFox17
Profile Joined May 2013
Finland4581 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-13 18:00:38
February 13 2015 17:57 GMT
#362
On February 14 2015 02:42 Philozovic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2015 21:44 decafchicken wrote:
On February 13 2015 16:46 RaFox17 wrote:
On February 13 2015 08:29 farvacola wrote:
I have to do crazy or different things in order to really get sore anymore. It's kinda sad

Soreness as a goal is not really ideal in my opinion. If you train till you can´t walk for three days it will hamper your training on those days you are broken as shit. It´s better to be able to train with good intensity for 2-3 days in a row than to train one day and then be broken for 2-3.

It's not the goal... But it feels good sometimes. I miss the soreness from squatting haven't done a heavy squat in months ugh.
I'm racing my roommate to a 315 squat. He's at 275 and I'm at 95 lol. This knee better heal up quick ^^


3 weeks of oly and I'm already squatting more than decaf, I'm so goood !

On a more serious note my snatch is apparently quite good for 3 weeks of work but I just can't understand how I'm supposed to clean, I've got a relatively strong upper body so I only use my arm to lift after I pass the knees and how I can avoid that is unclear to me (I've seen the high pull klokov video but seeing and doing is not the same !!!)

Snatch 30kg (4 triples) --> One at 60kg for the end of July (minimun to compet)
C&J 42,5kg (8 triples) --> One at 75kg for the end of July (minimun to compet)
Squat 62,5kg (5x5) --> One at 100kg for the end of July

BodyWeigh 63,5kg --> 69kg for the end of July

I would suggest trying to clean from hang or from blocks (just above the knee) This will help you to focus on keeping your arms straight and only holding the barbel. When you are doing cleans from the ground it is much more difficult to fix possible problems. When you no longer lift with your arms then slowly start trying to lift from the ground again. Clean pulls and high pulls are also a good idea as they will help you to work on your third pull.
Also remember that when you are doing your first pull (at the knee) you should be lifting with your legs, not your back or arms.
edit: Remember to film your lifts as it will help you to analyse your weaknesses. I use app called ubersense on iPhone which i highly recommend.
NeedsmoreCELLTECH
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Netherlands1242 Posts
February 13 2015 19:45 GMT
#363
I row 15+ hours a week and I still get sore as shit from intense sessions. If it's really bad do a lighter workout, but don't skip it altogether.
Get huge or die mirin | Diamond on LoL
Gryffindor_us
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
United States5606 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-13 19:52:41
February 13 2015 19:52 GMT
#364
So, a story because I'd have never imagined this would happen to me. I have three herniations, I've had them for years. I still lift (deads, squats, etc...), and I do just fine. In fact, I've lifted more in the last 7 months than ever before and my back felt great.

Well, the other day I was really, really sick and hadn't slept in over 36 hours. I couldn't sleep partially because of sickness and also because my girlfriend and I were having a colossal fight. My brother offered a muscle relaxer and some valium so I might sleep. Well, I took them and I woke up and my back was in excruciating pain. Why? My guess is that the muscles protecting my back / giving me feedback on how to sleep were knocked out so I slept in some horrible position. My back hurts like shit now and I'm gonna have to rehab for a bit.

Anyway, gonna actively rehab this and get back to it.
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RaFox17
Profile Joined May 2013
Finland4581 Posts
February 13 2015 20:00 GMT
#365
On February 14 2015 04:52 Gryffindor_us wrote:
So, a story because I'd have never imagined this would happen to me. I have three herniations, I've had them for years. I still lift (deads, squats, etc...), and I do just fine. In fact, I've lifted more in the last 7 months than ever before and my back felt great.

Well, the other day I was really, really sick and hadn't slept in over 36 hours. I couldn't sleep partially because of sickness and also because my girlfriend and I were having a colossal fight. My brother offered a muscle relaxer and some valium so I might sleep. Well, I took them and I woke up and my back was in excruciating pain. Why? My guess is that the muscles protecting my back / giving me feedback on how to sleep were knocked out so I slept in some horrible position. My back hurts like shit now and I'm gonna have to rehab for a bit.

Anyway, gonna actively rehab this and get back to it.

Tough luck. Hope things get well soon!
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
February 13 2015 21:00 GMT
#366
hey guys, I have another question. Since I started my dieting and exercise regime last August I lost about 10 pounds or so. Most of that came fairly early on.

I'm at the point where my weight has stabilized but unfortunately I still have a long way to go. I'm reluctant to further modify my diet since I don't want to run into adherence problems. Should I just workout more to cut more fat? Thanks.
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
February 13 2015 21:35 GMT
#367
The general advice that I've seen is, diet loses fat - working out gains muscle. The unfortunate part is that even though working out burns calories, you also end up making your body want to eat (to recover the lost calories). You can try just taking the leanest calories (protein/fat specifically) to stave the hunger off, but it's tough work. On the other hand, switching your diet over to a lower calorie plan (like 200-300 calories less/day) will end up losing you about half a pound a week, and it isn't really that hard.
Yargh
NeedsmoreCELLTECH
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Netherlands1242 Posts
February 15 2015 08:33 GMT
#368
On February 14 2015 06:00 c0ldfusion wrote:
hey guys, I have another question. Since I started my dieting and exercise regime last August I lost about 10 pounds or so. Most of that came fairly early on.

I'm at the point where my weight has stabilized but unfortunately I still have a long way to go. I'm reluctant to further modify my diet since I don't want to run into adherence problems. Should I just workout more to cut more fat? Thanks.

How much do you workout? In my experience working out almost daily did loads to help my body composition.
Get huge or die mirin | Diamond on LoL
MtlGuitarist97
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1539 Posts
February 15 2015 15:13 GMT
#369
Went to the psychiatrist yesterday, and I got (relatively) good news. Basically he agrees that I'm depressed, but said that I don't really have enough time to use SSRIs, and they're more effective for people with severe depression. He said that I should try a benzo instead, because they can work as short-term antidepressants that I could use just to get myself through one or two bad months of school.

I'm getting my wisdom teeth pulled tomorrow, so no lifting for me for the next week or so. However, once I get back I'm starting Xanax. The psych gave me a prescription for about a week's worth of .5 mg tablets that he wants me to try when I go back to school the starting on Feb. 23. Basically, I'd take one tablet a day after school just to help me get the motivation to workout, do homework and lead as normal of a life as possible. There's a chance that they end up not really doing anything or end up just making me drowsy, but hopefully they're effective. He also recommended that I try drinking one or two cups of coffee after school to help with the lack of energy caused by the depression.

Also starting that Tuesday, I'm going to basically do a complete deload and start Jonnie Candito's linear strength program, which can be found here. My starting weights will probably be 115 lbs squat, 95 lbs bench, 135 lbs deadlift, 95 lbs barbell row, and 95 lbs overhead press (the OHP only progress every three weeks, so I figured I should start off heavier than if I were to fully deload because it's going to take a while to progress on the lift anyway). Based on what the program calls for in terms of progression, I've set out some basic goals for what I should be able to hit:

Squat - 225x6 by the end of May. Hopefully 250-260x6 by the middle of July, maybe more.
Bench Press - 185-200x6 by the middle of June.
Deadlift - 225x6 by the middle of April, 315x6 by the beginning of June.
Barbell Row - 185x6 by the middle of May.
OHP - 125-130x6 by the middle of July, hopefully more. Really hoping to hit a bodyweight OHP.

If my progress goes as well as I hope it will, I will probably cut starting around July 15 . If I feel like I have a ton of strength gains left in the tank and I'm not *too* fat, I may continue to just try to eat slightly above maintenance and push for another two weeks or so. I leave for college around the end of August, depending on whether or not I plan on doing some kind of preorientation program since they usually last a week or so.

I don't think the DL, Squat, and BB row goals are particularly ambitious. The OHP goal would add between 15 and 30 lbs to my one rep max, and the bench goal would add a solid 30-50 lbs to my one rep max. I've had some lower back pain for a while now, and I want to take this deload to allow me to focus on form, mobility, and just making steady progress for as long as possible.
REDBLUEGREEN
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Germany1904 Posts
February 15 2015 16:21 GMT
#370
I am currently doing mostly bodyweigth training but I am supplementing it with dumbbell benchpresses because my chest has always been my weak spot.
Now I am at a point where I can do 5x12 reps with the maximum weight that i can screw onto the dumbbell and I am unsure how to proceed as I don't want to buy new equipment at the moment.
Should I do even more reps? Is there any other way to make benchpresses more difficult? Or can you guys recommend another chest exercise with dumbbells besides butterflies (I sometimes get elbow pain from them)?
RaFox17
Profile Joined May 2013
Finland4581 Posts
February 15 2015 16:24 GMT
#371
On February 16 2015 01:21 REDBLUEGREEN wrote:
I am currently doing mostly bodyweigth training but I am supplementing it with dumbbell benchpresses because my chest has always been my weak spot.
Now I am at a point where I can do 5x12 reps with the maximum weight that i can screw onto the dumbbell and I am unsure how to proceed as I don't want to buy new equipment at the moment.
Should I do even more reps? Is there any other way to make benchpresses more difficult? Or can you guys recommend another chest exercise with dumbbells besides butterflies (I sometimes get elbow pain from them)?

Nothing wrong with doing push-ups. There are also many variations to push-ups that are incredibly challenging. Just make sure you keep up the proper form when doing them.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20164 Posts
February 16 2015 19:17 GMT
#372
Saturday -
More tempo squats working on form and stuff. I'm absolutely garbage at back squatting to full depth with proper ab/glute activation. Getting better though. Front squats I'm pretty solid on. Banded broad jumps after for some explosive work.
Conditioning was "fight gone bad"
3(normal is 5) rounds of 1 min max effort each of wall balls, sumo deadlift high pull, box jumps, push press, and rowing. 1 minute rest. Fucking exhausting.

Monday- Pretty wiped from the weekend so just did some light cardio and shoulder work
AM
1000m Row x2 (3:22, 3:35)
BTN Press 10x95 8x115 6x125, 135, 135, 135
DB Press 3x8 @ 50 lb
Lots of foam rolling/lax ball in my shoulders. Massage tomorrow! :D
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
February 16 2015 19:53 GMT
#373
On February 17 2015 04:17 decafchicken wrote:
Saturday -
More tempo squats working on form and stuff. I'm absolutely garbage at back squatting to full depth with proper ab/glute activation. Getting better though. Front squats I'm pretty solid on. Banded broad jumps after for some explosive work.
Conditioning was "fight gone bad"
3(normal is 5) rounds of 1 min max effort each of wall balls, sumo deadlift high pull, box jumps, push press, and rowing. 1 minute rest. Fucking exhausting.

Monday- Pretty wiped from the weekend so just did some light cardio and shoulder work
AM
1000m Row x2 (3:22, 3:35)
BTN Press 10x95 8x115 6x125, 135, 135, 135
DB Press 3x8 @ 50 lb
Lots of foam rolling/lax ball in my shoulders. Massage tomorrow! :D


Decaf Bronning
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20164 Posts
February 16 2015 20:26 GMT
#374
On February 17 2015 04:53 GoTuNk! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2015 04:17 decafchicken wrote:
Saturday -
More tempo squats working on form and stuff. I'm absolutely garbage at back squatting to full depth with proper ab/glute activation. Getting better though. Front squats I'm pretty solid on. Banded broad jumps after for some explosive work.
Conditioning was "fight gone bad"
3(normal is 5) rounds of 1 min max effort each of wall balls, sumo deadlift high pull, box jumps, push press, and rowing. 1 minute rest. Fucking exhausting.

Monday- Pretty wiped from the weekend so just did some light cardio and shoulder work
AM
1000m Row x2 (3:22, 3:35)
BTN Press 10x95 8x115 6x125, 135, 135, 135
DB Press 3x8 @ 50 lb
Lots of foam rolling/lax ball in my shoulders. Massage tomorrow! :D


Decaf Bronning


#fittestmanalive2015
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18863 Posts
February 16 2015 20:46 GMT
#375
Dear God, not another one lost to circuit training!
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
February 17 2015 00:47 GMT
#376
On February 17 2015 04:17 decafchicken wrote:
Saturday -
More tempo squats working on form and stuff. I'm absolutely garbage at back squatting to full depth with proper ab/glute activation. Getting better though. Front squats I'm pretty solid on. Banded broad jumps after for some explosive work.
Conditioning was "fight gone bad"
3(normal is 5) rounds of 1 min max effort each of wall balls, sumo deadlift high pull, box jumps, push press, and rowing. 1 minute rest. Fucking exhausting.

Monday- Pretty wiped from the weekend so just did some light cardio and shoulder work
AM
1000m Row x2 (3:22, 3:35)
BTN Press 10x95 8x115 6x125, 135, 135, 135
DB Press 3x8 @ 50 lb
Lots of foam rolling/lax ball in my shoulders. Massage tomorrow! :D


What was your fight gone bad score?
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
MtlGuitarist97
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1539 Posts
February 17 2015 14:29 GMT
#377
The surgery went really, really well. I have basically no swelling and I'm in very little pain when I take the Vicodin. The only part that sucks is that I still can only eat soft foods and I'm not getting my stitches out til next Tuesday, but other than that I'm really happy with how my surgery went. I know some people end up in a ton of pain, have a lot of bruising/swelling, etc. and I'm glad to say that I have almost none of that. The worst that my pain was while I was waiting on the drive-through pharmacy line to pick up my Vicodin (right after my surgery), and that was because the gauze pads were irritating the spots where my teeth were removed.

It kind of sucks that I can't go back to lifting during this week cause I'm super pumped, but I feel amazing. The Vicodin has helped a ton with any discomfort I feel at all (including my lower back pain), and since I have no school I feel just absolutely incredible.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20164 Posts
February 17 2015 15:01 GMT
#378
Glad to hear it went well, mine was pretty smooth too. Do you have to take the whole week off? I played a rugby game like 5 days after I got mine out lol.

On February 17 2015 09:47 IgnE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2015 04:17 decafchicken wrote:
Saturday -
More tempo squats working on form and stuff. I'm absolutely garbage at back squatting to full depth with proper ab/glute activation. Getting better though. Front squats I'm pretty solid on. Banded broad jumps after for some explosive work.
Conditioning was "fight gone bad"
3(normal is 5) rounds of 1 min max effort each of wall balls, sumo deadlift high pull, box jumps, push press, and rowing. 1 minute rest. Fucking exhausting.

Monday- Pretty wiped from the weekend so just did some light cardio and shoulder work
AM
1000m Row x2 (3:22, 3:35)
BTN Press 10x95 8x115 6x125, 135, 135, 135
DB Press 3x8 @ 50 lb
Lots of foam rolling/lax ball in my shoulders. Massage tomorrow! :D


What was your fight gone bad score?


280 for 3 rounds
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
MtlGuitarist97
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1539 Posts
February 17 2015 15:35 GMT
#379
On February 18 2015 00:01 decafchicken wrote:
Glad to hear it went well, mine was pretty smooth too. Do you have to take the whole week off? I played a rugby game like 5 days after I got mine out lol.

Show nested quote +
On February 17 2015 09:47 IgnE wrote:
On February 17 2015 04:17 decafchicken wrote:
Saturday -
More tempo squats working on form and stuff. I'm absolutely garbage at back squatting to full depth with proper ab/glute activation. Getting better though. Front squats I'm pretty solid on. Banded broad jumps after for some explosive work.
Conditioning was "fight gone bad"
3(normal is 5) rounds of 1 min max effort each of wall balls, sumo deadlift high pull, box jumps, push press, and rowing. 1 minute rest. Fucking exhausting.

Monday- Pretty wiped from the weekend so just did some light cardio and shoulder work
AM
1000m Row x2 (3:22, 3:35)
BTN Press 10x95 8x115 6x125, 135, 135, 135
DB Press 3x8 @ 50 lb
Lots of foam rolling/lax ball in my shoulders. Massage tomorrow! :D


What was your fight gone bad score?


280 for 3 rounds

Don't have a choice unfortunately. I have stitches in that are preventing me from doing anything until I get them out. I also have school off this week so I'm just taking it easy. I could easily go back to lifting once I stop taking the Vicodin (it makes me a bit unstable/lightheaded so I think it would be dumb of me to lift while I'm on it), but I'm afraid of ripping my stitches out accidentally, or at least hurting myself because of the increased blood pressure.
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-18 03:14:34
February 18 2015 01:40 GMT
#380
Brutal training session and PR smashing day

PC 100x1 105x1 (PR) 107.5x1(PR) 110x1(PR) (finally understood how to pull upwards, need to stay more foward over the bar and work on extension)

Video:




3FS+2BS with 3 sec pause at bottom 130 140 (PR) 145(PR) 150kg(PR), 2BS paused 155 160 165x2(PR) 170x2(PR)
OHP 70 72.5 75kgx3
Dips BWx10, 15kgx10, 20kgx10, 25kgx10x3(PR)
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