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IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
June 25 2017 00:14 GMT
#3461
A good bar is pretty expensive. You could try craigslist if you want to buy yourself. Maybe somebody is moving and getting rid of one in good condition.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
June 30 2017 04:46 GMT
#3462
So I'll likely be starting some lifting soon, but I'm pretty new at this. Any recommendations for good starting programs, I know training for aerobic sports inside and out...but strength training is totally new ball game for me.

EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
June 30 2017 12:48 GMT
#3463
Best advice I can give is to take mobility training seriously and to not let your ego affect your lifts. Don't rush, it only takes one sloppy rep to fuck your progress for months.

As for beginner programs, nuthin wrong with Starting Strength.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
June 30 2017 13:45 GMT
#3464
best thing you could do is find a lifting buddy who knows more than you. if you dont know anyone now hopefully you know how to make friends
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
Ehzera
Profile Blog Joined August 2014
Singapore212 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-01 14:11:59
July 01 2017 14:06 GMT
#3465
Learnt how to pull with a belt today and hit a PB triple of 260kg then went to pull 272.5kg to finally join the 600lb club



Currnently 5 weeks out from my next meet. Hope to pull 600 with comp. equipment!
“A tree without roots is just a piece of wood.” - Marco Pierre White
VHbb
Profile Joined October 2014
689 Posts
July 01 2017 20:11 GMT
#3466
Dear TLrs and lifting experts

I have a gym available at my workplace where I can go in the morning before starting to work, and I'd like to get back into a decent shape to restart playing rugby next season (september/october).. how do I build my own exercise schedule?

I went to a gym before, and I had some sets of exercises assigned me from my rugby coach - but that was 5-6 years ago and I'm not sure I can recreate it by myself. There is no "instructor" or trainer at the gym (it's ~free) so I'd have to get started by myself. Any advice?

The main goal is
1. to restart doing physical activity regularly. I'll also restart with running regularly.
2. get back to a decent shape to play rugby. I love the game, but I hate playing when I'm really out of shape, I always get injured (I am very careless when playing rugby) and I feel I cannot play at a decent level.. so this time I decided I want to *first* restart training, and *then* go back to rugby..

any insights / advice / comments are very welcome
cheers!
My life for Aiur !
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
July 01 2017 20:29 GMT
#3467
On July 02 2017 05:11 VHbb wrote:
Dear TLrs and lifting experts

I have a gym available at my workplace where I can go in the morning before starting to work, and I'd like to get back into a decent shape to restart playing rugby next season (september/october).. how do I build my own exercise schedule?

I went to a gym before, and I had some sets of exercises assigned me from my rugby coach - but that was 5-6 years ago and I'm not sure I can recreate it by myself. There is no "instructor" or trainer at the gym (it's ~free) so I'd have to get started by myself. Any advice?

The main goal is
1. to restart doing physical activity regularly. I'll also restart with running regularly.
2. get back to a decent shape to play rugby. I love the game, but I hate playing when I'm really out of shape, I always get injured (I am very careless when playing rugby) and I feel I cannot play at a decent level.. so this time I decided I want to *first* restart training, and *then* go back to rugby..

any insights / advice / comments are very welcome
cheers!


If I had to guess your coach had you doing some sort of bro split. Just google "Stronglifts 5x5" and follow it to the letter for a few months; focus on learning proper technique. Research says strength's training main benefit for other sports is injury prevention.
Feel free to add jumps (afterwards) and maybe some running when you have time so you don't feel too heavy on the long run.
VHbb
Profile Joined October 2014
689 Posts
July 01 2017 20:55 GMT
#3468
On July 02 2017 05:29 GoTuNk! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2017 05:11 VHbb wrote:
Dear TLrs and lifting experts

I have a gym available at my workplace where I can go in the morning before starting to work, and I'd like to get back into a decent shape to restart playing rugby next season (september/october).. how do I build my own exercise schedule?

I went to a gym before, and I had some sets of exercises assigned me from my rugby coach - but that was 5-6 years ago and I'm not sure I can recreate it by myself. There is no "instructor" or trainer at the gym (it's ~free) so I'd have to get started by myself. Any advice?

The main goal is
1. to restart doing physical activity regularly. I'll also restart with running regularly.
2. get back to a decent shape to play rugby. I love the game, but I hate playing when I'm really out of shape, I always get injured (I am very careless when playing rugby) and I feel I cannot play at a decent level.. so this time I decided I want to *first* restart training, and *then* go back to rugby..

any insights / advice / comments are very welcome
cheers!


If I had to guess your coach had you doing some sort of bro split. Just google "Stronglifts 5x5" and follow it to the letter for a few months; focus on learning proper technique. Research says strength's training main benefit for other sports is injury prevention.
Feel free to add jumps (afterwards) and maybe some running when you have time so you don't feel too heavy on the long run.


Thanks for the advice

Googling "bro split" sounds like what I used to do (but to be honest I never really got into lifting / gym - which is also why, I think, I got injured a few times).

I will definitly do more running (running is what I've been doing for the last 2-3 years while I was not playing rugby, and I quite like it), but I will try to focus less on long long runs (>20km) and get in some more speed training. I have a nice training program for the off season that my old coach gave us with splits / suicides / etc.

A part from this, I'll look into the stronglifts 5x5. I do hope that I can meet someone more expert at this work gym and perhaps train together with him, so that I can have some pointers in person on techniques and form.



I do miss rugby a lot, so hopefully that's enough motivation to get me in the gym (I never really liked indoor sports)
My life for Aiur !
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
July 02 2017 11:40 GMT
#3469
start running after u get like a 60kg+ squat, it makes so much difference to have some leg muscle first lol
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VHbb
Profile Joined October 2014
689 Posts
July 02 2017 15:43 GMT
#3470
On July 02 2017 20:40 FFGenerations wrote:
start running after u get like a 60kg+ squat, it makes so much difference to have some leg muscle first lol


I already started because I live close to the mountains now and I like to go up and down the closest trail
honestly sports outdoor have much more appeal to me (especially now in the summer)
My life for Aiur !
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
July 02 2017 22:14 GMT
#3471
Grats on the PB ehzera
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20021 Posts
July 03 2017 01:38 GMT
#3472
fucking beast ehzera

@VHBB

Welcome fellow rugby player :D Best advice I can give you is to get a good strength base from a program like Gotunk! mentioned (strong lifts 5x5). This will build up your core, legs, and shoulders which is a massive help in everything (ball carrying, tackling, rucking, scrumming, etc). The other part is building up your high intensity conditioning, rugby is much more a burst - rest - burst - rest than a steady expenditure of energy. You'll want to do some interval training (google HIIT workouts) to build this up, so instead of running a 5k you'd be better off doing 10 x 100m sprints with 30 seconds of rest in between for example.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
VHbb
Profile Joined October 2014
689 Posts
July 06 2017 10:00 GMT
#3473
Thanks decafchicken, nice to meet an other rugbyman!

I'll start with the gym next week (now I'm not at my workplace so I don't have access to any gym) and I'll let you know how it goes..

I want to try to find a good schedule to accommodate some long runs (which I love) and speed training for next rugby season. For the speed/high intensity I have some programs from my old coach which I think will work.

The best exercise I ever did for high intensity training for rugby is like this
- sprint 5 meters, go to the ground (belly to the ground), 1 burpee + jump
- run back the 5 meters (running backwards), once you get to the starting position, 1 burpee+jump
- run 10 meters, same as above
- 15 meter
- 20 meters
etc.

I find it devastating :D but it's very nice to simulate the sprint+tackle, or sprint+ruck you do in a rugby match..

My life for Aiur !
TerransHill
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany572 Posts
July 07 2017 20:37 GMT
#3474
Hi guys,

After 3 months of sports almost every day and a hard diet with kcal counting I had good training results for the first time ever . I dropped like 18 pounds and for the first time since I was like 12 I can actually see my abs (well only 4 of them, but thats ok).

Now I don't want to drop anymore pounds obviously and make gains instead. However, I want my abs to stay. Any tipps for gaining in a lean way? My current approach is to gradualy raise calories, with sth. like 50% carbs, 20% fat and 30% Protein.
Respect my authoritah!!
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
July 07 2017 20:44 GMT
#3475
steroids tend to work pretty well
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
Pulimuli
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Sweden2766 Posts
July 08 2017 14:05 GMT
#3476
On July 08 2017 05:44 IgnE wrote:
steroids tend to work pretty well


synthol bro
peanuts
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States1225 Posts
July 09 2017 15:10 GMT
#3477
Ugh, I fucking hate big calorie deficit days. Today is gonna blow.

On July 08 2017 05:37 TerransHill wrote:
Hi guys,

After 3 months of sports almost every day and a hard diet with kcal counting I had good training results for the first time ever . I dropped like 18 pounds and for the first time since I was like 12 I can actually see my abs (well only 4 of them, but thats ok).

Now I don't want to drop anymore pounds obviously and make gains instead. However, I want my abs to stay. Any tipps for gaining in a lean way? My current approach is to gradualy raise calories, with sth. like 50% carbs, 20% fat and 30% Protein.

If you want to stay lean, don't do 50% carbs. That shit bloats you up. 35p/30f/35c.
Writer"My greatest skill is my enjoyment of the game" - Grubby | @TL_Peanuts
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-11 08:24:26
July 11 2017 07:18 GMT
#3478
One aspect that didn't really occur to me when we were discussing necessary fat levels for build is the role of insulin. It may be more of a correlation than anything, but chances are if you don't have a certain amount of fat, you won't have a lot of insulin floating around and the benefits thereof.

Also, perhaps you are merely using it as a rough guide, but does it really make much sense to say you're getting a significant amount of energy from protein? Shouldn't you only be using protein as a fuel if you have no other sources?
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
Pulimuli
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Sweden2766 Posts
July 11 2017 09:07 GMT
#3479
On July 11 2017 16:18 Jerubaal wrote:
One aspect that didn't really occur to me when we were discussing necessary fat levels for build is the role of insulin. It may be more of a correlation than anything, but chances are if you don't have a certain amount of fat, you won't have a lot of insulin floating around and the benefits thereof.

Also, perhaps you are merely using it as a rough guide, but does it really make much sense to say you're getting a significant amount of energy from protein? Shouldn't you only be using protein as a fuel if you have no other sources?


yes?

it takes alot of energy to convert protein into energy though
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20021 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-11 16:22:50
July 11 2017 16:22 GMT
#3480
On July 10 2017 00:10 peanuts wrote:
Ugh, I fucking hate big calorie deficit days. Today is gonna blow.

Show nested quote +
On July 08 2017 05:37 TerransHill wrote:
Hi guys,

After 3 months of sports almost every day and a hard diet with kcal counting I had good training results for the first time ever . I dropped like 18 pounds and for the first time since I was like 12 I can actually see my abs (well only 4 of them, but thats ok).

Now I don't want to drop anymore pounds obviously and make gains instead. However, I want my abs to stay. Any tipps for gaining in a lean way? My current approach is to gradualy raise calories, with sth. like 50% carbs, 20% fat and 30% Protein.

If you want to stay lean, don't do 50% carbs. That shit bloats you up. 35p/30f/35c.


Carbs don't inherently bloat you up. Shitty carbs and inactivity do. RP diet has my hard workout days at around 50% carbs (this would be -500 cut for me):
Protein: 940 cal
Fat: 921 cal
Carb: 1880 cal
Carb Breakdown:
Last meal before workout 70g
Intra workout carbs (gatorade, cyclic dextrin, etc.) 157g (this is a lot, i'm usually around 40-80)
Post workout meal 157g
Before bed 86g

On a light day my carbs would be half of that though and around protein 940, fat 550, carb 940

how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
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