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Zurich15363 Posts
On January 28 2015 23:27 mordek wrote:
Zatic has been skiing for six hours at a time though. #fitocracycreeping
I keep hearing/seeing people noticing this significant difference after creatine supplementation. I feel like I put on some mass when I first started back in April but I also don't seem to notice any difference in endurance during lifting sessions. Maybe it was too gradual but my brother is telling me he feels like he has just as much energy at the end of his sessions than at the beginning after I got him some for Christmas. Maybe I'm underdosing? I've been eyeballing a rounded teaspoon so that could be the problem :\
While 16 days of skiing maintained my leg strength pretty well it didn't save me from the worst soreness in ... years.
I put on zero mass/weight with creatine but I did have a noticeable effect on energy during workouts coinciding with creatine intake. I am very careful though to attribute that to the creatine alone, mainly because it was instant (from day 1) and very noticeable. Basically too good to be true. But at least for me it seems to work. I am taking rather small doses, 3g/day, no loading.
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Are there any adverse effects of taking SSRIs in terms of lifting? My therapist thinks I should start taking antidepressants, and I'm just wondering if there's anything that I should know about.
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I would be very hesitant to start taking SSRIs.
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On January 29 2015 11:01 IgnE wrote:
I would be very hesitant to start taking SSRIs.
I really, really don't want to. However, I've had depression on and off since I was about 10 and I've had pretty terrible depression for the last year or so. I don't want to take SSRIs for the long term, but I really need something to help me finish high school. My high school has been about as miserable as possible and I don't think I can make it to May like this.
I've read about SSRIs and while I don't have much in the way of an education in psychology/biology, I'm pretty sure anything has to be better than what I'm dealing with now, even if I get ED, nausea, SSRI syndrome, or whatever the fuck else you can get from them. If I had the option to drop out of my high school and just go to public school for the next few months I would. Unfortunately, that would result in my acceptances to colleges being rescinded and basically being forced to retake dozens of standardized tests in the course of a few weeks.
I really wish I could just man up and deal with whatever stress I have, but it's honestly too much. I have no energy to do anything else, I barely have the motivation to go to school, and I'm just miserable all the time. The only reason I'm still going to my high school is because I barely have three months of school left and it would be brain-dead of me to drop out now.
If antidepressants get me to make it to May 13th (my last final and coincidentally my birthday as well) without having a mental breakdown, I'll take it. I've gone to therapy since I was three years old and I clearly need something more than that now.
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Are there OTC SSRIs? Or only prescription? If prescription only - who can prescribe, your therapist? I assume that with prescription only drugs, whoever can prescribe generally should have an understanding regarding the side-effects and what you can use it in conjunction with.
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That's not quite how it works, but an online forum of this nature is not the place for psychiatric advice. It is easily argued that drugs like SSRI's are overprescribed and that many common modalities of spoken therapy have been created with medication in mind, both of which feed into the troubled state of mental healthcare here in the United States. Nonetheless, we more or less have to assume that Mtl's therapist is worth their fee and is prescribing the meds according to established practice and the circumstances of Mtl's life and condition. In any case, good luck with it. Severe depression runs deep in my family and I can empathize with those who deal with similar problems.
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i did not benefit from antidepressants or antipsychotics in the past. i benefited from very gradually changing my behavior
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At least you are still exercising MtlGuitarist. Exercising as effective as SSRIs (i.e. ~60% of people see improvement) for treating depression. I know it probably doesn't help to hear this, but 4 more months is not really very long at all. I close my eyes and 4 months goes by and I wonder what happened to it and how I am getting so old.
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SSRIs saved my life. Talk about them with your psych, figure out what symptoms you most want to target. I haven't really noticed any impact on my lifting when I've been on them. Some will drain your energy a bit, but I've worked around that by just adjusting routine. That said, I would still talk with your psych about those side effects specifically. Wishing you all the best man.
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On January 29 2015 12:34 farvacola wrote:
That's not quite how it works, but an online forum of this nature is not the place for psychiatric advice. It is easily argued that drugs like SSRI's are overprescribed and that many common modalities of spoken therapy have been created with medication in mind, both of which feed into the troubled state of mental healthcare here in the United States. Nonetheless, we more or less have to assume that Mtl's therapist is worth their fee and is prescribing the meds according to established practice and the circumstances of Mtl's life and condition. In any case, good luck with it. Severe depression runs deep in my family and I can empathize with those who deal with similar problems.
My therapist cannot prescribe medications; I would have to go to an outside psychiatrist. Most of them prescribe it like candy and honestly, I really trust my therapist. I've been in therapy since I was three years old and the only other time she actually told my mom to bring me to a psych was when I was 7 or 8 because she recommended that I might need anxiety medication. I've been moderately depressed for a while, and this is the only time she's suggested that I might need some kind of drug to help me. I don't know for sure though. And the timing is pretty piss poor, the time that the SSRIs would start to kick in is when I would be recovering from getting my wisdom teeth removed...
Also thanks for all the well wishes guys. I'll be okay... it's just about deciding how to make it through these next months. I'd rather take psychoactive drugs for three months than fuck up the next four years of my life because I can't find the motivation to pass my last semester of high school.
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Was on SSRI some five years ago, for like half a year. Don't think they were that useful in themselves, but they might have use as a tool to get enough "energy/motivation" to deal with the underlying issues. Never treat them as a solution imo, but as a tool to reach the real solution.
Knees have been better last few days, no backlash over the workout on Tuesday, at least I don't think so. Hopefully they will continue to improve, will hold of working them heavy until then.
New PR on bench 125kg @ 77.2kg BW, kinda happy with that.
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On January 29 2015 21:16 Fwmeh wrote:
Was on SSRI some five years ago, for like half a year. Don't think they were that useful in themselves, but they might have use as a tool to get enough "energy/motivation" to deal with the underlying issues. Never treat them as a solution imo, but as a tool to reach the real solution.
Knees have been better last few days, no backlash over the workout on Tuesday, at least I don't think so. Hopefully they will continue to improve, will hold of working them heavy until then.
New PR on bench 125kg @ 77.2kg BW, kinda happy with that.
The solution is finishing high school. I know it sounds stupid, but my difference in mood when I'm there vs. not there is ridiculous. I am basically a completely different person and I just need to make it through my last final.
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On January 29 2015 21:09 MtlGuitarist97 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2015 12:34 farvacola wrote:
That's not quite how it works, but an online forum of this nature is not the place for psychiatric advice. It is easily argued that drugs like SSRI's are overprescribed and that many common modalities of spoken therapy have been created with medication in mind, both of which feed into the troubled state of mental healthcare here in the United States. Nonetheless, we more or less have to assume that Mtl's therapist is worth their fee and is prescribing the meds according to established practice and the circumstances of Mtl's life and condition. In any case, good luck with it. Severe depression runs deep in my family and I can empathize with those who deal with similar problems. My therapist cannot prescribe medications; I would have to go to an outside psychiatrist. Most of them prescribe it like candy and honestly, I really trust my therapist. I've been in therapy since I was three years old and the only other time she actually told my mom to bring me to a psych was when I was 7 or 8 because she recommended that I might need anxiety medication. I've been moderately depressed for a while, and this is the only time she's suggested that I might need some kind of drug to help me. I don't know for sure though. And the timing is pretty piss poor, the time that the SSRIs would start to kick in is when I would be recovering from getting my wisdom teeth removed... Also thanks for all the well wishes guys. I'll be okay... it's just about deciding how to make it through these next months. I'd rather take psychoactive drugs for three months than fuck up the next four years of my life because I can't find the motivation to pass my last semester of high school.
Sounds like you have the right mindset - Don't go to a psych who just pushes pills. Sounds like you have a good therapist, see if she has any referrals for psych's she trusts. Someone that will work with you and find what works for you instead of just throwing meds at you. Mental illness is such a little understood field, it takes good doctors and sometimes many different approaches to find what works.
Don't worry, high school is dumb and temporary. I fucking hated it to and couldn't stand it. It'll be over soon, and my life got 1000x better when I went to college. Just do what you can to get through and it spend some time on things that make you happy. As mentioned, keeping up with exercising is one of the best things you can do for your mental and physical healthy. Oh and highly recommend yoga - I find it very therapeutic mentally and physically.
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On January 29 2015 21:20 MtlGuitarist97 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2015 21:16 Fwmeh wrote:
Was on SSRI some five years ago, for like half a year. Don't think they were that useful in themselves, but they might have use as a tool to get enough "energy/motivation" to deal with the underlying issues. Never treat them as a solution imo, but as a tool to reach the real solution.
Knees have been better last few days, no backlash over the workout on Tuesday, at least I don't think so. Hopefully they will continue to improve, will hold of working them heavy until then.
New PR on bench 125kg @ 77.2kg BW, kinda happy with that. The solution is finishing high school. I know it sounds stupid, but my difference in mood when I'm there vs. not there is ridiculous. I am basically a completely different person and I just need to make it through my last final.
I can relate, for me it was my first time at the University. Ended up doing completely different stuff for two years before I could finish that.
Wish you the best, hope that college (or whatever you plan on doing after hs) works out better.
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I wish you the best as well. I've had several friends take SSRIs under the supervision of good psychologists and the results have uniformly been an improvement. It's another tool at your disposal and if it works for you and reinforces progress then it's worth it.
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To the rowing aficionados out there: $350 for an older model C Concept 2 worth it? I generally like rowing but was wondering if anyone has experience with this model and/or Concept 2 maintenance in general?
Here's a link to the CL listing: Concept 2 Rower
Upon further research it's a 1993-1994 model for sure... so it's seen lots of years.
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If it's in decent condition YES buy it before someone else does
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Yes. Do it now. My mom had one for 20 years don't think it ever had problems.
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Damn it... missed it. The post went up literally 12 hours before I put a IFTTT alert on rowers.... grrr
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Felt about the same today, that is, slightly better than before I tried rest/rehab. Tried 120kg squats 3x5 today, no improvement at all during lifting. Will see if it is worse tomorrow, but feeling pessimistic right now.
Out of ideas on how to approach training atm, nothing I have tried seems to work well.
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Hey guys! I'm hoping to get some form feedback on today's 5/3/1 Deadlift 3+rep work set. I hit 6 reps on it so I was pretty pleased! My main goal is to stay safe with my reps first and foremost.
+ Show Spoiler [video and mute warning] +I know that I don't throw my hips forward in the way that PLer's do, but I get the bar to max pull height. Also, please MUTE sound if you don't want to hear some RollPlay Swan Song action.
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