EPTNBA 2014-2015 Regular Season - Page 89
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oneofthem
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AgentW
United States7725 Posts
That's why they mentioned it on the telecast. Breen was calling the game.  | ||
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Jaaaaasper
United States10225 Posts
On January 10 2015 13:44 oneofthem wrote: apparently there's this campaign by bulls fans to send kyrie to the all star game and fuck with cavs cap space. Rose isn't good enough to make it this year, so why not. | ||
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dmnum
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RowdierBob
Australia13536 Posts
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
stats in basketball is evolving rapidly with the vast improvement in player tracking data. the old age stats thing though was just a marketing push by various outlets such as 538. they basically said 'believe us we are the stats people' and left it at that. this is why i was pretty worked up about the love situation because basketball stats especially boxscore ones are not very good and pretending they are the truth is silly. there was also some pretty damning numbers analytically on love. still, his season so far is understating his ability. i think he's a bit off physically and should be better than this. but clearly his existing flaws have been recognized by the public. | ||
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Haiq343
United States2548 Posts
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
his best attributes as a passer are not utilized by the cavs but he's not an elite finisher (especially this year) or shooter (only good relative to other bigs). so in lebron-ball he's not very effective. even by espn's gravity metric he's not particularly good. another thing i've noticed is that he doesn't set a good screen. his efficiency in the low post is actually very bad and he gets blocked a lot. last night he got blocked by david lee which i thought was impossible. his rebounding is highly overrated, not a team rebounder but a chaser of individual rebound over defense. anyway kerr and west were strong voices against trading for love. their CEO wanted love for the star power. | ||
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FakePseudo
Belgium716 Posts
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pretender58
Germany713 Posts
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FakePseudo
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On January 11 2015 01:36 oneofthem wrote: the flaws of being a bad bad defensive big as well as not having the quickness and athleticism to be effective on offense outside of schemes that utilize him as a primary initiator at the high post. his best attributes as a passer are not utilized by the cavs but he's not an elite finisher (especially this year) or shooter (only good relative to other bigs). so in lebron-ball he's not very effective. even by espn's gravity metric he's not particularly good. another thing i've noticed is that he doesn't set a good screen. his efficiency in the low post is actually very bad and he gets blocked a lot. last night he got blocked by david lee which i thought was impossible. his rebounding is highly overrated, not a team rebounder but a chaser of individual rebound over defense. anyway kerr and west were strong voices against trading for love. their CEO wanted love for the star power. There is a problem with the cavs in general I think. One thing people seem to constantly ignore is that pgs and bigs that are poor on defense are probably the two hardest types of elite players to build around. That is why Lebron is so important to make the whole thing work. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
this mozgov thing is an upgrade, but it makes them pretty bad on transition defense to run love and mozgov. they gave up something like 30 points in transition to gs. | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16129 Posts
So happy to see this kind of resurgence out of him. | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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SK.Testie
Canada11084 Posts
On January 11 2015 16:30 Vindicare605 wrote: Pau Gasol breaking his career high in points just reminds me how much I hated the way he was used under Mike Brown and D'Antoni. So happy to see this kind of resurgence out of him. This. This so hard. Such a waste of a really great player. Gasol has enough of a game that if you just keep feeding him he will get very consistent points. And I never really got him being soft. Maybe on the aggressive/offensive end but he's always had more finesse anyway a la Tim Duncan and he always fought really hard for rebounds. If he had been fed a lot more in the places he knew his game could be utilized best people would still be singing his praises. Sad they wasted a few years of his talent. | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13536 Posts
On January 11 2015 14:06 cLutZ wrote: There is a problem with the cavs in general I think. One thing people seem to constantly ignore is that pgs and bigs that are poor on defense are probably the two hardest types of elite players to build around. That is why Lebron is so important to make the whole thing work. Could you imagine how big a disaster it would be if Love did walk in FA? I was iffy about Wiggins at the beginning of the year but he has been looking the goods lately. I get why the Cavs did it but I'm starting to wonder if maybe they did the wrong thing on trading Wiggins away. I dunno. Love is just utterly atrocious defensively and his ok-but-not-great offensive production just isn't making up for it. | ||
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andrewlt
United States7702 Posts
On January 11 2015 18:03 SK.Testie wrote: This. This so hard. Such a waste of a really great player. Gasol has enough of a game that if you just keep feeding him he will get very consistent points. And I never really got him being soft. Maybe on the aggressive/offensive end but he's always had more finesse anyway a la Tim Duncan and he always fought really hard for rebounds. If he had been fed a lot more in the places he knew his game could be utilized best people would still be singing his praises. Sad they wasted a few years of his talent. And it was pretty sad how he was treated here. It seems like every time the Lakers struggled, it was a contest between Kobe, D'Antoni, Brown, the front office, the fans and the media to see who could throw him under the bus first. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On January 11 2015 18:13 RowdierBob wrote: Could you imagine how big a disaster it would be if Love did walk in FA? I was iffy about Wiggins at the beginning of the year but he has been looking the goods lately. I get why the Cavs did it but I'm starting to wonder if maybe they did the wrong thing on trading Wiggins away. I dunno. Love is just utterly atrocious defensively and his ok-but-not-great offensive production just isn't making up for it. I wasn't even talking about that (and yes it would be a huge disaster). The issue I was trying to point to is that every PG is a defensive black hole even the "good" defenders. So you are 4.5 v 5 or 4v5 on defense every possession already. With Love (or Blake, etc) you have another bad defender, but worse, its at a spot where you traditionally have a guy who can be a positive on that end. So now your Center needs to be Dwight Howard from 2009 or the pick and roll turns you to dust. But even if you got that your not going to afford a real 2/3 who can go both ways. Really all that boils down to is that its hard to be elite when your "elite" players are not 2-way players (and even good defensive PGs are not). | ||
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oneofthem
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