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NBA 2014-2015 Regular Season - Page 16

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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-04 04:09:25
November 04 2014 04:09 GMT
#301
noel gonna be larry sanders jr?
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
November 04 2014 04:09 GMT
#302
Boston went from Last (or close to) to First in the East in 07-08
Freeeeeeedom
Haiq343
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2548 Posts
November 04 2014 04:12 GMT
#303
On November 04 2014 10:12 MassHysteria wrote:
http://online.wsj.com/articles/study-shorter-nba-refs-call-more-fouls-1415046039

LOLLL

Unfortunately, despite the tremendous title there's nothing of value there. Alas.
I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited, whereas imagination encircles the world. -Einstein
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
November 04 2014 04:16 GMT
#304
On November 04 2014 04:58 Xeris wrote:
The Lakers are better than any other team at randomly becoming contenders again. Not this year IMO, but I can imagine them with a top 3 pick this year, Randle, and pick up a max free agent in the summer (Rondo perhaps), then they'll trot out Kobe + Top3 pick + Randle + Max player + Good bench (Lin, Young, Ed Davis, etc) .. that's a playoff team probably, then they get another max the following summer + further developed Randle/Top3 pick + older Kobe ... that's a championship contender.

Not outside the realm of impossibility


None of these things make me think playoff team, especially considering Randle is missing out on a year of experience.
Remember Violet.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
November 04 2014 04:45 GMT
#305
On November 04 2014 13:03 Ace wrote:
Pretty sure no team in league history has went from bottom ranked to legit contender in 2 years except the late 90s Spurs.

Boston was pretty close twice (before the first Big Three, and before Larry got drafted.) I know they were 2nd worst before the Big Three, but realistically they were the worst since Memphis had a worse record but East. vs West.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13241 Posts
November 04 2014 04:53 GMT
#306
63 fouls in nuggs v kings!? Wtf happened?
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
November 04 2014 04:58 GMT
#307
The more likely plan is that the Lakers suck royally this year and get a top pick. They again suck royally next year and get another top pick. Kobe's contract expires at that point (he may retire as well) and they may have room for 2 max free agents in 2016. Of course, getting 2 really good max free agents is not exactly easy. And Philly is outtanking everybody.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
November 04 2014 04:59 GMT
#308
I meant with regards to getting a lottery pick but yea Larrry Bird Celtics count too. Both Spurs and Celtics had good players on the roster but didn't get production for reasons (injuries) that led to getting a great player. Not sure if the Lakers will follow that path just because of how the modern NBA's agency processes play out.

Also, Doc Rivers the GM is costing Doc Rivers the coach a championship. Should have paid Bledsoe and let him start at off guard which is his best position.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-04 05:15:37
November 04 2014 05:13 GMT
#309
On November 04 2014 13:53 RowdierBob wrote:
63 fouls in nuggs v kings!? Wtf happened?

Boogie.

Nuggets' C's had 12 fouls in 38 minutes. Then Collison/Sessions mopped up.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13241 Posts
November 04 2014 05:32 GMT
#310
On November 04 2014 13:59 Ace wrote:
I meant with regards to getting a lottery pick but yea Larrry Bird Celtics count too. Both Spurs and Celtics had good players on the roster but didn't get production for reasons (injuries) that led to getting a great player. Not sure if the Lakers will follow that path just because of how the modern NBA's agency processes play out.

Also, Doc Rivers the GM is costing Doc Rivers the coach a championship. Should have paid Bledsoe and let him start at off guard which is his best position.


Good point. Wow forgot about this. They could be running a cp3 and bled combo. Their three shooting would suck balls though. Man would they create some good mid range/shots at the rim though.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-04 05:42:40
November 04 2014 05:39 GMT
#311
Bledsoe and Paul are both good 3pt shooters. They'd be killing.

ETA: Had to double check, Bledsoe is just about average.

ETA2: Gordon Hayward jesus christ
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
November 04 2014 07:41 GMT
#312
Aren't they like just below the cap or something? How do you pay Bledsoe then
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
November 04 2014 09:22 GMT
#313
Just saw highlights of that mavs celtics game. Still boggles my mind how teams still manage to almost blow a 20 point leads away.
liftlift > tsm
bolahola
Profile Joined September 2014
Croatia28 Posts
November 04 2014 14:11 GMT
#314
On November 04 2014 18:22 wei2coolman wrote:
Just saw highlights of that mavs celtics game. Still boggles my mind how teams still manage to almost blow a 20 point leads away.

when you get complacent a lot of things can happen
momentum shifts are real,if you give space to your opponent and they get going it encourages them to play hard on the other end of the floor as well.Suddenly they are hitting their shots and you're not.
No matter how much flak a team like the sixers,detroit,orlando,etc get for being shit you still have to realize they are a nba team and they have people that are there for a reason.When you relax you can just catch a random loss like that.
techies added,rip dota
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
November 04 2014 14:22 GMT
#315
Also different lineups have different advantages. The Celtics were just blazing down the court and Avery Bradley and Jeff Green were popping 3s like the Splash Brothers. Shit happens.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
November 04 2014 18:11 GMT
#316
https://vine.co/v/OO0tqxJvtiI
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
bolahola
Profile Joined September 2014
Croatia28 Posts
November 04 2014 19:39 GMT
#317
was that a fucking triple flop
techies added,rip dota
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
November 04 2014 20:10 GMT
#318
On November 04 2014 23:22 Ace wrote:
Also different lineups have different advantages. The Celtics were just blazing down the court and Avery Bradley and Jeff Green were popping 3s like the Splash Brothers. Shit happens.

Yup and it wouldn't be out of the question if Carlisle was just trying out different things with such a big lead and so early in the season with new players on his team.

But also: http://www.sloansportsconference.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/Live by the Three, Die by the Three The Price of Risk in the NBA.pdf

I've linked this here a while ago but the main thing to get out of it is in the abstract + Show Spoiler +
An important problem facing a basketball team is determining the right proportion of 2 and 3 point
shots to take. With many possessions remaining, a team should maximize points—a 3-pointer is simply
worth 1.5 2-pointers. 3-point attempts have roughly double the per-shot variance as 2-point attempts,
but a team should be “risk neutral.” As time remaining decreases, the trailing team should place an
increasingly positive value on risk; the opposite holds for the leading team. Our game theoretic analysis
yields a testable optimality condition: 3-point success rate must fall relative to 2-point success rate when
a team’s preference for risk increases. Using four years of play-by-play data, we find strong evidence this
condition holds for the trailing team only. As a lead decreases, the leading team should become more
risk-neutral, but teams in this circumstance actually tighten up and become more risk averse, contrary
to what their risk preferences ought to be to maximize the chance of winning the game. We also show
that if the offense shoots more 3’s as it becomes risk-loving this implies the attack can be varied more
readily than the defensive adjustment. 3-point usage does increase with the trail team’s preference for
risk, but actually falls for the leading team. Teams get it right when losing and wrong when winning.
We also find a strong motivating effect of losing—the trailing teams displays an overall boost in efficiency
for both shot types.
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
November 04 2014 20:21 GMT
#319
Thought this line was great from Zach Lowe's article today (found here): "[Harden] doesn't really sleepwalk on defense, since "sleepwalk" implies motion; Harden sleepstands." Worth a read.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
November 04 2014 21:38 GMT
#320
Kevin Durant Offseason documentary on HBO tonight

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