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On April 17 2015 22:21 Pandemona wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2015 22:17 Rebs wrote:And then they will show you like half a dozen of Mourinho flip outs. Guardiola doesnt get along well with strong personalities. We know that. Neither does Mou. The difference is Mou just gets rid of them and doesnt even give it a chance. Guardiola is more naive that way. Also last I heard Mourinhos star striker has been run into the ground and keeps getting hurt. Bang up job managing player fitness that is. Even you know that isn't even close to being true. His hamstring was ruined by Simeone last season which the whole world knows. Then by Spain who made him play in qualifiers and injured him again in the November time. He has picked up 1 injury for Chelsea and that was the one he got vs Stoke
Oh right.. just blame the other guy. Classic rebuttal. Ok sure whatever you say. I guess the lethargy they've been showing these last few weeks was also Simeone.
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On April 17 2015 22:30 zeo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2015 17:53 Pandemona wrote:On April 17 2015 17:35 Ysellian wrote:On April 17 2015 16:37 Pandemona wrote:
Why hasn't Arsene sacked his entire Dr/Physio team then? He is in the same boat every season his players are injured all the time......Problem is Wenger hasn't got an ego like Pep thats why but they are both similar managers in which they must over train there teams tremendously due to the amount of injuries that pile up.
Anyone seen a Mourinho team with a mass injury list? Or a Ferguson team with mass injury list? Nope not that i can remember. It is all about fitness training. Mourinho has always brought Rui Faria along with him wherever he went. I remember an old Lampard (or Terry forgot who) interview touching on the fact that players were never tired after a training with Mourinho, rather just satisfied. I've heard similar stories at Inter and Porto, also Madrid. Muscle injuries are the primary cause of injuries so by not stressing them too much you reduce injuries. A dutch physician has also hammered on this method as well and it makes sense, why are you running marathons when playing football is about bursts? Why not just play games and build fitness levels while practicing at the same time. Exactly. Mourinho always says his teams are "fit" like 1-2 weeks into a new season and pre season is just building them up and then they are ready to go. We seem to be really struggling to 'look fit' in the second half of the season though. Don't know if thats got to do with fitness lvl's or we just love half-assing it.
For a team that has very little rotation, Chelsea still look very fresh to me. There are only so many games players can play per year and it feels like Chelsea are really stretching the limit. Like Rebs pointed out, Diego Costa has struggled with fitness and largely because he has been rushed back very often. Funnily enough Simeone, del Bosque and Mourinho are all guilty of this so you can't really blame anyone but Costa himself at this point. Horse placenta is not a real cure lol
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On April 17 2015 21:24 Stratos_speAr wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2015 08:02 smr wrote:I'm having a hard time imagining Dortmund's future and a question to people outside of Germany because of that. Most people seem to think that Thomas Tuchel (former Mainz 05 head coach) is going to be the new guy. Over here he's got a reputation as a difficult character with immense tactical skills. Do people outside Germany know him? With Klopp leaving I expect a big part of the roster to stay because you cannot change everything at the same time. I find it hard to believe that Dortmund can realize bigger transfers without Klopp and CL/EL. Sure there are quite a few talented players in Germany and there's a bit of money we can offer but I expect that this summer will (again) show that we're nowhere near the european upper class. Praet is one of those examples who were said to like to play with Klopp and having him and possibly reaching EL that still seemed like a potential transfer target. Now the thought of such a player wearing our jersey seems laughable. Personal wish for the next bvb coach + Show Spoiler +1. The Special One
2. Wenger
3. Ex-Barca-Dutch-Superman (De Boer, Cocu, Koeman)
4. Mostly everybody else - I'll support you. You deserve a chance
5. Somebody with a Schalke-past - Do not set foot into our beautiful city.
I don't think it's going to be as bad as you've made it out to be. Dortmund 1) has money, 2) has one of the best fan bases in Europe, and 3) still has talent and the ability to consistently make Europe. They even still have a good shot of making Europe this year. Furthermore, they've locked down Reus and rumors are that Hummels will re-sign (still not sure about Gündogan). As hard as it is to imagine life without Klopp and some of these players, I think that Dortmund has enough resources to weather the storm. As for managers, I would hate to see Mourinho come to Dortmund. I really think we need someone who knows the German game (and preferably knows the language - not everyone will be like Pep). I think Tuchel or maybe Favre would be good fits.
Oh I absolutely agree that the talent in Dortmund is good enough to make top 3. I was just talking about transfer-attractiveness. We might have money but we're never going to attract remarkable players without CL imo. (Maybe with a new tactical approach we don't even need to. Possible. I just think that the names one could read in the last months/year become a lot less likely.) ManUtd can do that but Dortmund cannot. In addition I doubt that Watzke and Zorc want to give the new coach a huge sum to spend.
The most likely candidates seem to be Thomas Tuchel, Lucien Favre, Markus Weinzierl and maybe Paulo Sousa. Favre and Weinzierl do a fantastic job in their respective clubs so I think we can rule them out. My point is that we'll most likely get a coach without huge international reputation and experience. Would you give him 75+ million to spend? And would you trust his choices having this amount of money for the first time in their career?
As for Mourinho he doesn't want to work in Germany and he can't speak German so he's out. But he's the one guy I would trust to just take the club and start winning. I rate him extremely high but he's not made for Dortmund. That part about coaches was just my wishful thinking and nothing to do with reality.
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On April 18 2015 00:25 smr wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2015 21:24 Stratos_speAr wrote:On April 16 2015 08:02 smr wrote:I'm having a hard time imagining Dortmund's future and a question to people outside of Germany because of that. Most people seem to think that Thomas Tuchel (former Mainz 05 head coach) is going to be the new guy. Over here he's got a reputation as a difficult character with immense tactical skills. Do people outside Germany know him? With Klopp leaving I expect a big part of the roster to stay because you cannot change everything at the same time. I find it hard to believe that Dortmund can realize bigger transfers without Klopp and CL/EL. Sure there are quite a few talented players in Germany and there's a bit of money we can offer but I expect that this summer will (again) show that we're nowhere near the european upper class. Praet is one of those examples who were said to like to play with Klopp and having him and possibly reaching EL that still seemed like a potential transfer target. Now the thought of such a player wearing our jersey seems laughable. Personal wish for the next bvb coach + Show Spoiler +1. The Special One
2. Wenger
3. Ex-Barca-Dutch-Superman (De Boer, Cocu, Koeman)
4. Mostly everybody else - I'll support you. You deserve a chance
5. Somebody with a Schalke-past - Do not set foot into our beautiful city.
I don't think it's going to be as bad as you've made it out to be. Dortmund 1) has money, 2) has one of the best fan bases in Europe, and 3) still has talent and the ability to consistently make Europe. They even still have a good shot of making Europe this year. Furthermore, they've locked down Reus and rumors are that Hummels will re-sign (still not sure about Gündogan). As hard as it is to imagine life without Klopp and some of these players, I think that Dortmund has enough resources to weather the storm. As for managers, I would hate to see Mourinho come to Dortmund. I really think we need someone who knows the German game (and preferably knows the language - not everyone will be like Pep). I think Tuchel or maybe Favre would be good fits. Oh I absolutely agree that the talent in Dortmund is good enough to make top 3. I was just talking about transfer-attractiveness. We might have money but we're never going to attract remarkable players without CL imo. (Maybe with a new tactical approach we don't even need to. Possible. I just think that the names one could read in the last months/year become a lot less likely.) ManUtd can do that but Dortmund cannot. In addition I doubt that Watzke and Zorc want to give the new coach a huge sum to spend. The most likely candidates seem to be Thomas Tuchel, Lucien Favre, Markus Weinzierl and maybe Paulo Sousa. Favre and Weinzierl do a fantastic job in their respective clubs so I think we can rule them out. My point is that we'll most likely get a coach without huge international reputation and experience. Would you give him 75+ million to spend? And would you trust his choices having this amount of money for the first time in their career? As for Mourinho he doesn't want to work in Germany and he can't speak German so he's out. But he's the one guy I would trust to just take the club and start winning. I rate him extremely high but he's not made for Dortmund. That part about coaches was just my wishful thinking and nothing to do with reality.
I absolutely despise Mourinho. He's an awful personality and continuously looks like an idiot. Not only that, he would completely ruin the spirit of this team and make it a chore to watch.
Stay the fuck away from my club.
As for transfers, hell yes I'd trust Favre or Tuchel with some good money.
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On April 18 2015 05:33 Stratos_speAr wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2015 00:25 smr wrote:On April 17 2015 21:24 Stratos_speAr wrote:On April 16 2015 08:02 smr wrote:I'm having a hard time imagining Dortmund's future and a question to people outside of Germany because of that. Most people seem to think that Thomas Tuchel (former Mainz 05 head coach) is going to be the new guy. Over here he's got a reputation as a difficult character with immense tactical skills. Do people outside Germany know him? With Klopp leaving I expect a big part of the roster to stay because you cannot change everything at the same time. I find it hard to believe that Dortmund can realize bigger transfers without Klopp and CL/EL. Sure there are quite a few talented players in Germany and there's a bit of money we can offer but I expect that this summer will (again) show that we're nowhere near the european upper class. Praet is one of those examples who were said to like to play with Klopp and having him and possibly reaching EL that still seemed like a potential transfer target. Now the thought of such a player wearing our jersey seems laughable. Personal wish for the next bvb coach + Show Spoiler +1. The Special One
2. Wenger
3. Ex-Barca-Dutch-Superman (De Boer, Cocu, Koeman)
4. Mostly everybody else - I'll support you. You deserve a chance
5. Somebody with a Schalke-past - Do not set foot into our beautiful city.
I don't think it's going to be as bad as you've made it out to be. Dortmund 1) has money, 2) has one of the best fan bases in Europe, and 3) still has talent and the ability to consistently make Europe. They even still have a good shot of making Europe this year. Furthermore, they've locked down Reus and rumors are that Hummels will re-sign (still not sure about Gündogan). As hard as it is to imagine life without Klopp and some of these players, I think that Dortmund has enough resources to weather the storm. As for managers, I would hate to see Mourinho come to Dortmund. I really think we need someone who knows the German game (and preferably knows the language - not everyone will be like Pep). I think Tuchel or maybe Favre would be good fits. Oh I absolutely agree that the talent in Dortmund is good enough to make top 3. I was just talking about transfer-attractiveness. We might have money but we're never going to attract remarkable players without CL imo. (Maybe with a new tactical approach we don't even need to. Possible. I just think that the names one could read in the last months/year become a lot less likely.) ManUtd can do that but Dortmund cannot. In addition I doubt that Watzke and Zorc want to give the new coach a huge sum to spend. The most likely candidates seem to be Thomas Tuchel, Lucien Favre, Markus Weinzierl and maybe Paulo Sousa. Favre and Weinzierl do a fantastic job in their respective clubs so I think we can rule them out. My point is that we'll most likely get a coach without huge international reputation and experience. Would you give him 75+ million to spend? And would you trust his choices having this amount of money for the first time in their career? As for Mourinho he doesn't want to work in Germany and he can't speak German so he's out. But he's the one guy I would trust to just take the club and start winning. I rate him extremely high but he's not made for Dortmund. That part about coaches was just my wishful thinking and nothing to do with reality. I absolutely despise Mourinho. He's an awful personality and continuously looks like an idiot. Not only that, he would completely ruin the spirit of this team and make it a chore to watch. Stay the fuck away from my club. As for transfers, hell yes I'd trust Favre or Tuchel with some good money.
Mourinho never forced his club to let him go...
Tuchel did that with Mainz. Tuchel has a much worse personality than Mourinho
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On April 18 2015 05:35 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2015 05:33 Stratos_speAr wrote:On April 18 2015 00:25 smr wrote:On April 17 2015 21:24 Stratos_speAr wrote:On April 16 2015 08:02 smr wrote:I'm having a hard time imagining Dortmund's future and a question to people outside of Germany because of that. Most people seem to think that Thomas Tuchel (former Mainz 05 head coach) is going to be the new guy. Over here he's got a reputation as a difficult character with immense tactical skills. Do people outside Germany know him? With Klopp leaving I expect a big part of the roster to stay because you cannot change everything at the same time. I find it hard to believe that Dortmund can realize bigger transfers without Klopp and CL/EL. Sure there are quite a few talented players in Germany and there's a bit of money we can offer but I expect that this summer will (again) show that we're nowhere near the european upper class. Praet is one of those examples who were said to like to play with Klopp and having him and possibly reaching EL that still seemed like a potential transfer target. Now the thought of such a player wearing our jersey seems laughable. Personal wish for the next bvb coach + Show Spoiler +1. The Special One
2. Wenger
3. Ex-Barca-Dutch-Superman (De Boer, Cocu, Koeman)
4. Mostly everybody else - I'll support you. You deserve a chance
5. Somebody with a Schalke-past - Do not set foot into our beautiful city.
I don't think it's going to be as bad as you've made it out to be. Dortmund 1) has money, 2) has one of the best fan bases in Europe, and 3) still has talent and the ability to consistently make Europe. They even still have a good shot of making Europe this year. Furthermore, they've locked down Reus and rumors are that Hummels will re-sign (still not sure about Gündogan). As hard as it is to imagine life without Klopp and some of these players, I think that Dortmund has enough resources to weather the storm. As for managers, I would hate to see Mourinho come to Dortmund. I really think we need someone who knows the German game (and preferably knows the language - not everyone will be like Pep). I think Tuchel or maybe Favre would be good fits. Oh I absolutely agree that the talent in Dortmund is good enough to make top 3. I was just talking about transfer-attractiveness. We might have money but we're never going to attract remarkable players without CL imo. (Maybe with a new tactical approach we don't even need to. Possible. I just think that the names one could read in the last months/year become a lot less likely.) ManUtd can do that but Dortmund cannot. In addition I doubt that Watzke and Zorc want to give the new coach a huge sum to spend. The most likely candidates seem to be Thomas Tuchel, Lucien Favre, Markus Weinzierl and maybe Paulo Sousa. Favre and Weinzierl do a fantastic job in their respective clubs so I think we can rule them out. My point is that we'll most likely get a coach without huge international reputation and experience. Would you give him 75+ million to spend? And would you trust his choices having this amount of money for the first time in their career? As for Mourinho he doesn't want to work in Germany and he can't speak German so he's out. But he's the one guy I would trust to just take the club and start winning. I rate him extremely high but he's not made for Dortmund. That part about coaches was just my wishful thinking and nothing to do with reality. I absolutely despise Mourinho. He's an awful personality and continuously looks like an idiot. Not only that, he would completely ruin the spirit of this team and make it a chore to watch. Stay the fuck away from my club. As for transfers, hell yes I'd trust Favre or Tuchel with some good money. Mourinho never forced his club to let him go... Tuchel did that with Mainz. Tuchel has a much worse personality than Mourinho
I'd still rather have him than Mourinho. Not only is Mou a colossal dick, but watching his teams play is like watching paint dry.
That said, there are still other managers out there besides Tuchel that could do a damn fine job.
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On April 18 2015 07:59 Stratos_speAr wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2015 05:35 sharkie wrote:On April 18 2015 05:33 Stratos_speAr wrote:On April 18 2015 00:25 smr wrote:On April 17 2015 21:24 Stratos_speAr wrote:On April 16 2015 08:02 smr wrote:I'm having a hard time imagining Dortmund's future and a question to people outside of Germany because of that. Most people seem to think that Thomas Tuchel (former Mainz 05 head coach) is going to be the new guy. Over here he's got a reputation as a difficult character with immense tactical skills. Do people outside Germany know him? With Klopp leaving I expect a big part of the roster to stay because you cannot change everything at the same time. I find it hard to believe that Dortmund can realize bigger transfers without Klopp and CL/EL. Sure there are quite a few talented players in Germany and there's a bit of money we can offer but I expect that this summer will (again) show that we're nowhere near the european upper class. Praet is one of those examples who were said to like to play with Klopp and having him and possibly reaching EL that still seemed like a potential transfer target. Now the thought of such a player wearing our jersey seems laughable. Personal wish for the next bvb coach + Show Spoiler +1. The Special One
2. Wenger
3. Ex-Barca-Dutch-Superman (De Boer, Cocu, Koeman)
4. Mostly everybody else - I'll support you. You deserve a chance
5. Somebody with a Schalke-past - Do not set foot into our beautiful city.
Th I don't think it's going to be as bad as you've made it out to be. Dortmund 1) has money, 2) has one of the best fan bases in Europe, and 3) still has talent and the ability to consistently make Europe. They even still have a good shot of making Europe this year. Furthermore, they've locked down Reus and rumors are that Hummels will re-sign (still not sure about Gündogan). As hard as it is to imagine life without Klopp and some of these players, I think that Dortmund has enough resources to weather the storm. As for managers, I would hate to see Mourinho come to Dortmund. I really think we need someone who knows the German game (and preferably knows the language - not everyone will be like Pep). I think Tuchel or maybe Favre would be good fits. Oh I absolutely agree that the talent in Dortmund is good enough to make top 3. I was just talking about transfer-attractiveness. We might have money but we're never going to attract remarkable players without CL imo. (Maybe with a new tactical approach we don't even need to. Possible. I just think that the names one could read in the last months/year become a lot less likely.) ManUtd can do that but Dortmund cannot. In addition I doubt that Watzke and Zorc want to give the new coach a huge sum to spend. The most likely candidates seem to be Thomas Tuchel, Lucien Favre, Markus Weinzierl and maybe Paulo Sousa. Favre and Weinzierl do a fantastic job in their respective clubs so I think we can rule them out. My point is that we'll most likely get a coach without huge international reputation and experience. Would you give him 75+ million to spend? And would you trust his choices having this amount of money for the first time in their career? As for Mourinho he doesn't want to work in Germany and he can't speak German so he's out. But he's the one guy I would trust to just take the club and start winning. I rate him extremely high but he's not made for Dortmund. That part about coaches was just my wishful thinking and nothing to do with reality. I absolutely despise Mourinho. He's an awful personality and continuously looks like an idiot. Not only that, he would completely ruin the spirit of this team and make it a chore to watch. Stay the fuck away from my club. As for transfers, hell yes I'd trust Favre or Tuchel with some good money. Mourinho never forced his club to let him go... Tuchel did that with Mainz. Tuchel has a much worse personality than Mourinho I'd still rather have him than Mourinho. Not only is Mou a colossal dick, but watching his teams play is like watching paint dry. That said, there are still other managers out there besides Tuchel that could do a damn fine job.
Why are you even talking about this...? Mourinho isn't leaving Chelsea anytime soon, he's very happy there and joining a team like Dortmund which won't even be in the CL would be a major step down from Chelsea.
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On April 18 2015 07:59 Stratos_speAr wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2015 05:35 sharkie wrote:On April 18 2015 05:33 Stratos_speAr wrote:On April 18 2015 00:25 smr wrote:On April 17 2015 21:24 Stratos_speAr wrote:On April 16 2015 08:02 smr wrote:I'm having a hard time imagining Dortmund's future and a question to people outside of Germany because of that. Most people seem to think that Thomas Tuchel (former Mainz 05 head coach) is going to be the new guy. Over here he's got a reputation as a difficult character with immense tactical skills. Do people outside Germany know him? With Klopp leaving I expect a big part of the roster to stay because you cannot change everything at the same time. I find it hard to believe that Dortmund can realize bigger transfers without Klopp and CL/EL. Sure there are quite a few talented players in Germany and there's a bit of money we can offer but I expect that this summer will (again) show that we're nowhere near the european upper class. Praet is one of those examples who were said to like to play with Klopp and having him and possibly reaching EL that still seemed like a potential transfer target. Now the thought of such a player wearing our jersey seems laughable. Personal wish for the next bvb coach + Show Spoiler +1. The Special One
2. Wenger
3. Ex-Barca-Dutch-Superman (De Boer, Cocu, Koeman)
4. Mostly everybody else - I'll support you. You deserve a chance
5. Somebody with a Schalke-past - Do not set foot into our beautiful city.
I don't think it's going to be as bad as you've made it out to be. Dortmund 1) has money, 2) has one of the best fan bases in Europe, and 3) still has talent and the ability to consistently make Europe. They even still have a good shot of making Europe this year. Furthermore, they've locked down Reus and rumors are that Hummels will re-sign (still not sure about Gündogan). As hard as it is to imagine life without Klopp and some of these players, I think that Dortmund has enough resources to weather the storm. As for managers, I would hate to see Mourinho come to Dortmund. I really think we need someone who knows the German game (and preferably knows the language - not everyone will be like Pep). I think Tuchel or maybe Favre would be good fits. Oh I absolutely agree that the talent in Dortmund is good enough to make top 3. I was just talking about transfer-attractiveness. We might have money but we're never going to attract remarkable players without CL imo. (Maybe with a new tactical approach we don't even need to. Possible. I just think that the names one could read in the last months/year become a lot less likely.) ManUtd can do that but Dortmund cannot. In addition I doubt that Watzke and Zorc want to give the new coach a huge sum to spend. The most likely candidates seem to be Thomas Tuchel, Lucien Favre, Markus Weinzierl and maybe Paulo Sousa. Favre and Weinzierl do a fantastic job in their respective clubs so I think we can rule them out. My point is that we'll most likely get a coach without huge international reputation and experience. Would you give him 75+ million to spend? And would you trust his choices having this amount of money for the first time in their career? As for Mourinho he doesn't want to work in Germany and he can't speak German so he's out. But he's the one guy I would trust to just take the club and start winning. I rate him extremely high but he's not made for Dortmund. That part about coaches was just my wishful thinking and nothing to do with reality. I absolutely despise Mourinho. He's an awful personality and continuously looks like an idiot. Not only that, he would completely ruin the spirit of this team and make it a chore to watch. Stay the fuck away from my club. As for transfers, hell yes I'd trust Favre or Tuchel with some good money. Mourinho never forced his club to let him go... Tuchel did that with Mainz. Tuchel has a much worse personality than Mourinho I'd still rather have him than Mourinho. Not only is Mou a colossal dick, but watching his teams play is like watching paint dry. That said, there are still other managers out there besides Tuchel that could do a damn fine job.
Must have been really exciting to watch your team play such nice football that they were in the relegation zone for most of the season. Reminds me of all those Utd fans when Fergi retired: 'We dont want Mourinho', 'he wouldn't fit in', 'Moyes is the chosen one', 'Moyes will be the best manager ever', 'history/legacy, you wouldnt understand!'. Within two months they were already building shrines and performing occult rituals to lure Mou to Old Trafford.
The point of the story is never go full Manchester United fan. If the opportunity ever arises to get the best manager on the planet don't pick up a Moyes instead.
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On April 18 2015 15:38 vflux wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2015 07:59 Stratos_speAr wrote:On April 18 2015 05:35 sharkie wrote:On April 18 2015 05:33 Stratos_speAr wrote:On April 18 2015 00:25 smr wrote:On April 17 2015 21:24 Stratos_speAr wrote:On April 16 2015 08:02 smr wrote:I'm having a hard time imagining Dortmund's future and a question to people outside of Germany because of that. Most people seem to think that Thomas Tuchel (former Mainz 05 head coach) is going to be the new guy. Over here he's got a reputation as a difficult character with immense tactical skills. Do people outside Germany know him? With Klopp leaving I expect a big part of the roster to stay because you cannot change everything at the same time. I find it hard to believe that Dortmund can realize bigger transfers without Klopp and CL/EL. Sure there are quite a few talented players in Germany and there's a bit of money we can offer but I expect that this summer will (again) show that we're nowhere near the european upper class. Praet is one of those examples who were said to like to play with Klopp and having him and possibly reaching EL that still seemed like a potential transfer target. Now the thought of such a player wearing our jersey seems laughable. Personal wish for the next bvb coach + Show Spoiler +1. The Special One
2. Wenger
3. Ex-Barca-Dutch-Superman (De Boer, Cocu, Koeman)
4. Mostly everybody else - I'll support you. You deserve a chance
5. Somebody with a Schalke-past - Do not set foot into our beautiful city.
Th I don't think it's going to be as bad as you've made it out to be. Dortmund 1) has money, 2) has one of the best fan bases in Europe, and 3) still has talent and the ability to consistently make Europe. They even still have a good shot of making Europe this year. Furthermore, they've locked down Reus and rumors are that Hummels will re-sign (still not sure about Gündogan). As hard as it is to imagine life without Klopp and some of these players, I think that Dortmund has enough resources to weather the storm. As for managers, I would hate to see Mourinho come to Dortmund. I really think we need someone who knows the German game (and preferably knows the language - not everyone will be like Pep). I think Tuchel or maybe Favre would be good fits. Oh I absolutely agree that the talent in Dortmund is good enough to make top 3. I was just talking about transfer-attractiveness. We might have money but we're never going to attract remarkable players without CL imo. (Maybe with a new tactical approach we don't even need to. Possible. I just think that the names one could read in the last months/year become a lot less likely.) ManUtd can do that but Dortmund cannot. In addition I doubt that Watzke and Zorc want to give the new coach a huge sum to spend. The most likely candidates seem to be Thomas Tuchel, Lucien Favre, Markus Weinzierl and maybe Paulo Sousa. Favre and Weinzierl do a fantastic job in their respective clubs so I think we can rule them out. My point is that we'll most likely get a coach without huge international reputation and experience. Would you give him 75+ million to spend? And would you trust his choices having this amount of money for the first time in their career? As for Mourinho he doesn't want to work in Germany and he can't speak German so he's out. But he's the one guy I would trust to just take the club and start winning. I rate him extremely high but he's not made for Dortmund. That part about coaches was just my wishful thinking and nothing to do with reality. I absolutely despise Mourinho. He's an awful personality and continuously looks like an idiot. Not only that, he would completely ruin the spirit of this team and make it a chore to watch. Stay the fuck away from my club. As for transfers, hell yes I'd trust Favre or Tuchel with some good money. Mourinho never forced his club to let him go... Tuchel did that with Mainz. Tuchel has a much worse personality than Mourinho I'd still rather have him than Mourinho. Not only is Mou a colossal dick, but watching his teams play is like watching paint dry. That said, there are still other managers out there besides Tuchel that could do a damn fine job. Why are you even talking about this...? Mourinho isn't leaving Chelsea anytime soon, he's very happy there and joining a team like Dortmund which won't even be in the CL would be a major step down from Chelsea.
It wasn't about Dortmund anymore after 2 posts. It's just a dissent about Mourinho being the best coach on the planet which he obviously is. : )
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On April 18 2015 16:14 zeo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2015 07:59 Stratos_speAr wrote:On April 18 2015 05:35 sharkie wrote:On April 18 2015 05:33 Stratos_speAr wrote:On April 18 2015 00:25 smr wrote:On April 17 2015 21:24 Stratos_speAr wrote:On April 16 2015 08:02 smr wrote:I'm having a hard time imagining Dortmund's future and a question to people outside of Germany because of that. Most people seem to think that Thomas Tuchel (former Mainz 05 head coach) is going to be the new guy. Over here he's got a reputation as a difficult character with immense tactical skills. Do people outside Germany know him? With Klopp leaving I expect a big part of the roster to stay because you cannot change everything at the same time. I find it hard to believe that Dortmund can realize bigger transfers without Klopp and CL/EL. Sure there are quite a few talented players in Germany and there's a bit of money we can offer but I expect that this summer will (again) show that we're nowhere near the european upper class. Praet is one of those examples who were said to like to play with Klopp and having him and possibly reaching EL that still seemed like a potential transfer target. Now the thought of such a player wearing our jersey seems laughable. Personal wish for the next bvb coach + Show Spoiler +1. The Special One
2. Wenger
3. Ex-Barca-Dutch-Superman (De Boer, Cocu, Koeman)
4. Mostly everybody else - I'll support you. You deserve a chance
5. Somebody with a Schalke-past - Do not set foot into our beautiful city.
I don't think it's going to be as bad as you've made it out to be. Dortmund 1) has money, 2) has one of the best fan bases in Europe, and 3) still has talent and the ability to consistently make Europe. They even still have a good shot of making Europe this year. Furthermore, they've locked down Reus and rumors are that Hummels will re-sign (still not sure about Gündogan). As hard as it is to imagine life without Klopp and some of these players, I think that Dortmund has enough resources to weather the storm. As for managers, I would hate to see Mourinho come to Dortmund. I really think we need someone who knows the German game (and preferably knows the language - not everyone will be like Pep). I think Tuchel or maybe Favre would be good fits. Oh I absolutely agree that the talent in Dortmund is good enough to make top 3. I was just talking about transfer-attractiveness. We might have money but we're never going to attract remarkable players without CL imo. (Maybe with a new tactical approach we don't even need to. Possible. I just think that the names one could read in the last months/year become a lot less likely.) ManUtd can do that but Dortmund cannot. In addition I doubt that Watzke and Zorc want to give the new coach a huge sum to spend. The most likely candidates seem to be Thomas Tuchel, Lucien Favre, Markus Weinzierl and maybe Paulo Sousa. Favre and Weinzierl do a fantastic job in their respective clubs so I think we can rule them out. My point is that we'll most likely get a coach without huge international reputation and experience. Would you give him 75+ million to spend? And would you trust his choices having this amount of money for the first time in their career? As for Mourinho he doesn't want to work in Germany and he can't speak German so he's out. But he's the one guy I would trust to just take the club and start winning. I rate him extremely high but he's not made for Dortmund. That part about coaches was just my wishful thinking and nothing to do with reality. I absolutely despise Mourinho. He's an awful personality and continuously looks like an idiot. Not only that, he would completely ruin the spirit of this team and make it a chore to watch. Stay the fuck away from my club. As for transfers, hell yes I'd trust Favre or Tuchel with some good money. Mourinho never forced his club to let him go... Tuchel did that with Mainz. Tuchel has a much worse personality than Mourinho I'd still rather have him than Mourinho. Not only is Mou a colossal dick, but watching his teams play is like watching paint dry. That said, there are still other managers out there besides Tuchel that could do a damn fine job. Must have been really exciting to watch your team play such nice football that they were in the relegation zone for most of the season. Reminds me of all those Utd fans when Fergi retired: 'We dont want Mourinho', 'he wouldn't fit in', 'Moyes is the chosen one', 'Moyes will be the best manager ever', 'history/legacy, you wouldnt understand!'. Within two months they were already building shrines and performing occult rituals to lure Mou to Old Trafford. The point of the story is never go full Manchester United fan. If the opportunity ever arises to get the best manager on the planet don't pick up a Moyes instead.
Errm most of us were pretty horrified to get moyes, all the united fans i knew, including myself, were very against the appointment even before it was officially announced. The chosen one banner was quite a tiny selection of fans. But yes, there were quiet a few that didn't want Mourinho after his eye gouging childish antics. To be honest I'm not sure I'd want him even now, because he'd win loads for 2-3 season then fuck off, leaving us with a rebuilding job again, and hes notorious for leaving his teams in a bad state.
Most fans wanted klopp hands down and didn't want Moyes, there were plenty of polls flying around on fan forums to show this, I don't really know were you get the Moyes will be the best manager ever idea from. We even flew a plane over the ground to get him out.
In other news i think were probably going to loose today, since all out CDM's are injured and all our 1st and 2nd choice left CB are injured too. We will probably have to play a kid like Mcnair or Blackett at CB and then maybe even Rooney as CDM, which means potentially falcao up front  I think we'll need some sort of miracle to beat Chelsea with these injuries now, despite being kind of confident before. We'll be lucky to get a draw
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You know how the saying goes: After a battle, everyone is a general.
Anyway, today is a big game for both Utd and Chelsea. I think its going to be a draw. Who would have thought Utd would have a shot at the title considering their start to the season.
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On April 18 2015 18:52 zeo wrote:
You know how the saying goes: After a battle, everyone is a general.
Anyway, today is a big game for both Utd and Chelsea. I think its going to be a draw. Who would have thought Utd would have a shot at the title considering their start to the season.
No one thinks that even now, unless your thinking it makes your league win more gratifying if you play up other teams. In which case. OK.
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It;s not like they don't have a shot, they are only 1 point behind Arsenal and if Arsenal are a cause for concern than Utd can be one too. Don't forget that there is still a ManU vs. Arsenal game to be played on May 17th.
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Arsenal.. a cause for concern ? Right.
Do you even realize how patronizing you sound. I guess not.
"Hey guys, chin up.. its not over till its over + Show Spoiler +"
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You know I had more confidence in us roflstomping the title in the first half of the season when we were 'only' five points clear than now. Look at these results:
Aston Villa 1 - 2 Chelsea
Chelsea 1 - 0 Everton
Paris SG 1 - 1 Chelsea
Chelsea 1 - 1 Burnley FC
West Ham 0 - 1 Chelsea
Chelsea 2 - 2 Paris SG
Chelsea 1 - 1 Southampton
Hull City 2 - 3 Chelsea
Chelsea 2 - 1 Stoke City
QPR 0 - 1 Chelsea
Do you see any comfortable wins there coz I don't. Every single game I've watched since the new year had me worried till the 95th minute.
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lol rebs, more optimistic than chelsea fans.
sure, 7 points and a game is hand is comfortable. all it takes is for chelsea to lose to both man utd and arsenal and you'll be singing a different tune. and if arsenal wins every single game, lol... but as zeo said, none of the recent games were comfortable by any means.
chelsea were either poor, got lucky, or both.
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If Remy doesnt start tonight ill be worried if Hazard doesn't turn up like he didn't vs QPR. However if we have Remy we have alot of threats.
Should be great game though :D
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