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pretender58
Profile Joined August 2013
Germany713 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-15 12:09:05
April 15 2015 12:08 GMT
#13241
He said he hasn´t got any plans for after the season and a break might be a possibility but that´s not certain.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
April 15 2015 12:24 GMT
#13242
Oh right then if he only said a possibility thats fine. Pretty sure his agent phone has been rung a lot the last week.
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warding
Profile Joined August 2005
Portugal2394 Posts
April 15 2015 12:55 GMT
#13243
Jorge Jesus to Man City and Klopp will join Benfica. You heard it here first. He doesn't need Portuguese to coach Benfica, Jesus also doesn't speak the language.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18582 Posts
April 15 2015 13:03 GMT
#13244
On April 15 2015 21:55 warding wrote:
Jorge Jesus to Man City and Klopp will join Benfica. You heard it here first. He doesn't need Portuguese to coach Benfica, Jesus also doesn't speak the language.


But Klopp WANTS to speak the language...
UdderChaos
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United Kingdom707 Posts
April 15 2015 13:15 GMT
#13245
On April 14 2015 19:21 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2015 19:53 UdderChaos wrote:
On April 13 2015 01:46 Rebs wrote:
On April 13 2015 01:37 malcram wrote:
you say that, but chelsea has a really tough run of games to come. Arsenal and Man Utd both in some amazing form.


yeah except he can easily play not to lose (which he will) see how it goes and then adjust tactics based on the flow of the game and keep more than enough points to canter to the title.

City are making United look wayyyy better than they really are.

If you are going to sit here and tell me that Ashley Young the ultimate one trick poney is going to get touches where he cuts in from the left gets space and launches that same ball over and over again and Chelsea (or really any good team) will let him do that Im sorry.. thats just not going to happen. Same with Fellaini bullying people. Not going to happen against Chelsea or really any decent team + Show Spoiler +
to be fair City are a decent team but the run of form is torrid and the second goal pretty much deflated them. Wasnt much of a game after that. Alot of the game is layed between your ears.


As for Arsenal.. meh.. maybe they have a good day but they dont have the bottle.



Well if those tactics, which allowed us to stroll past spurs, Liverpool and now the current champions city (despite Aguero having his best game in months) apparently don't work against the mighty Chelsea that couldn't even beat a 10 man PSG without Zlatan and scraped a win vs QPR i guess we will painfully have to resort to the untalented likes of Mata, Di Maria and Wayne Rooney. They have been pretty awful since Christmas bar the Swansea game. You want to talk about city making us look good, well Chelsea's position in the table is very flattering of late. Don't get me wrong Chelsea will win the title, but it's on of the worst mourinho teams I think I've ever seen, and without costa or hazard they would look very average.

I don't really see your issue with Ashley young, so a winger that consistently beats his man an puts in a cross is somehow a one trick pony? Isn't that what a winger is supposed to do lol. Not to mention his brilliant link up play and the defensive shift hes put in this year has been phenomenal, hes far more than one trick. This "one trick pony" is keeping out one of the best players in the world last year, di maria, out of the team. Must be one fucking good trick.

As for afroman, since when did physical players that bully opposition not work against almost any teams? There are teams that literally live and breathe this style like stoke. Year after year mid table teams have taken points of the champions by playing long ball physical game, to say it doesn't work against "good team" is just nonsense. And what teams are "good"? it seems like you basically just mean Chelsea.



I disagree that its one of the worst Mou teams ever.

Yes I do basically just mean Chelsea. Frankly the higher tier of English football is pretty loose and jaded this year. Teams have been so disorganized and been taken by the occasion so often. So much kick and rush among top teams and no one trying to control the tempo of the game in possession or trying to ride out a bad period by slowing it down. Because playing it down the flank and using afroman for knockdowns is so much simpler.

Look if you feel like this way of playing gets you places and is impressive. Thats great, good for you. But my belief is it wont get you very far in Europe, not often anyway. Besides I didnt say United was playing poorly or anything so I dont get whats so upsetting.

The Liverpool, Villa and City games are the first time Ive seen United play good football all year. Like impressive football. And Ashley Young has looked like the best player alot of the time. But lets be honest. Its Ashley Young and hes going to start pissing himself at some point. Quote me on it. Its not even like he has quality on either foot. He needs to cut and if teams are letting him cut to put good balls in thats pretty sad for said team. Again if you think that way of playing gets you places great.

Still if you think Man City were not god awful and mentally shot after the second went in then your in some weird denial space and getting horny about a team thats not as good as you think it is.

Even Liverpool since the turn of the year had their run and looked like a killer team. They are not. Form ebbs and flows and \this is clearly United on a high. But playing out of your skin for a few weeks doesnt make you a good team. Look at the season on a whole thats what tells you where you are.

Still if all it takes is a good run to get your dick hard and panties in a twist every time someone criticizes them I cant imagine how bad people like you will be if they actually start winning again. Atleast Arsenal fans enjoy their yearly run of form to a CL spot with some dignity and accept that they arent a champion team. Then again it took them quite a few years to figure that out.

edit.

The reason I respect Simeone is because he doesnt pretend to be anything more than he is and he doesnt try to make excuses for the way he plays and he understands its limitations. He also doesnt get to spend 200 mill on duds...

http://www.espnfc.com/uefa-champions-league/story/2398174/diego-simeone-cristiano-ronaldo-right-real-madrid-players-more-talent-than-atletico-madrid-champions-league


Wow, ok.

Sorry but this is hilariously biased. United play "kick and rush" now? Have you watched a single game were played?
Ashley young is going to "piss himself" at some point, what does this even mean? He's played in a title winning squad, you know that right? And that his way of playing isn't going to "get us places", well its been getting us in the best form of the league recently so im not sure what that's all about. Then, like usual, you go on about how we aren't good other teams are terrible. As a united fan im used to this, almost every year, especially the years we won the titles, we had oppo fans telling us we were terrible and would get "found out" ect.

Then you tell us to look at were we are as a whole and say that tells us were we are. Ok lets play that game. We are 1 point away from second in the table, mathematically still title challengers (albeit dreaming if we think we have any chance of doing that) We started the season as 7th from the year previous, new manager, totally new style of play, had to replace the entire back 4 and the worst injury crisis I've ever seen at this club. We've come out, looking like we will be 2nd or 3rd, and playing some beautiful football while we are at it. That tells me exactly were we are.

As for the "dick hard, panties in a twist comment" which is getting borderline personal, I was merely responding to someone who was being absurdly dismissive, hysterically tendentious and patronizing about our recent form on an open public forum which you know fans of all teams read (despite there obviously being a huge Chelsea love-in here ). If anything your the one with panties in a twist lol.
Nunquam iens addo vos sursum
malcram
Profile Joined November 2010
2752 Posts
April 15 2015 13:23 GMT
#13246
the funniest part about Man U right now is that, despite playing their best football in the last 3-4 games. Rooney has been pretty shit for all of them. with that spectacular turn and volley an exception, he's either lost for 80-90% of the game or keeps losing the ball.
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
April 15 2015 13:24 GMT
#13247
Bundesliga makes no sense anymore for him. Go to Man City.

He was probably very tired of "topstars" sales. Lewandowski, Götze already gone. Hummels (ManU) and Gündogan (Atletico Madrid) probably this summer too.
Everyone knows that BVB cant buy topstars (not enough money) and they dont want sale topstars (money from it is useless).
Thats why they didnt sale Lewa (30m now or 0m next season, latter happened) or Reus (declined 50m by Real Madrid, 2 yrs ago) and they were very unhappy about 37m from Götze. I am sure they dont want to sale 50m for Hummels or 30m Gündogan.

From financial aspect, BVB has this serious money-problem for 2 yrs.
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
smr
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany4808 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-15 16:03:00
April 15 2015 14:20 GMT
#13248
I didn't agree too much with some of Klopp's decision these last months but I cannot see a single person who'll make a better job. I never want to go back to the times of switching coaches every 6 months.

I think when the guy after Klopp gets fired/retires the biggest mistake he made was succeeding the most successful coach in the club's history.

Thank you Klopp, have an awesome time whereever you'll go.

e: yo arsenal wanna switch?
NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
April 15 2015 17:21 GMT
#13249
I'd be delighted to have Klopp, but Wenger is here until he decides to leave.
Life is like Tetris. Your errors pile up but your accomplishments disappear. - Robert Ohlén | http://railroaddiary.wordpress.com/ - My words about stuff.
Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
April 15 2015 18:22 GMT
#13250
To me, it would be very strange for Klopp to go Manchester City, i feel like this club is very much the antithesis of Dortmund; at least thats how it is portrayed over here in germany.
But this ofc doesnt mean it is impossible.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18582 Posts
April 15 2015 18:24 GMT
#13251
I could totally see Klopp at Tottenham
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
April 15 2015 18:31 GMT
#13252
Simeone to City and Klopp to Atletico might be a chance
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 15 2015 18:37 GMT
#13253
I didn't see Chelsea on the schedule for champions league yesterday. Are they playing today, Pande?
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zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6336 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-15 18:44:39
April 15 2015 18:44 GMT
#13254
edit: wrong thread
"No amount of evidence will ever persuade an idiot." - Mark Twain
AIOL!
Profile Joined January 2011
France962 Posts
April 15 2015 19:21 GMT
#13255
PSG C team vs barca A team -_-. Gonna be a rape, i don't even wanna watch, Verratti, Motta, and Ibra are what makes PSG a strong team. Without them they are a mid lvl ligue1 team contending for uefa qualif.
Stephano!!!!!!/Nerchio/Mana/Hasuobs/Grubby/Kas/Tarson/Sarens/Goody/BeastyCury
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28739 Posts
April 15 2015 19:43 GMT
#13256
On April 16 2015 03:37 Shellshock wrote:
I didn't see Chelsea on the schedule for champions league yesterday. Are they playing today, Pande?


I can't actually tell whether this is a hilarious burn or if you missed last round.. ;p
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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28739 Posts
April 15 2015 19:51 GMT
#13257
On April 15 2015 22:23 malcram wrote:
the funniest part about Man U right now is that, despite playing their best football in the last 3-4 games. Rooney has been pretty shit for all of them. with that spectacular turn and volley an exception, he's either lost for 80-90% of the game or keeps losing the ball.


seems like pundits are largely in agreement that even though Rooney has been less 'present' in the games (game vs city was the manchester united game where rooney had the least touches, ever), his contribution has been immense, and it's been a deliberate, and successful move on van gaal's part. Basically, the last matches, Rooney has largely been holding up both center defenders, and he's an excellent player to use in this role because he's such a complete player. Like, many strikers who are played in similar roles have weaknesses that can be exploited, either they're too weak for duels, too slow for runs, too weak at the link up play, and the defenders can choose to only have one man marking them at times. With Rooney, he's so complete that he constantly holds up both center defenders meaning that the wingers have an easier time either getting a 2v1 or simply running past the full backs, and indeed, wing play has been one of United's strengths during their current win streak.
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
April 15 2015 20:58 GMT
#13258
On April 16 2015 03:37 Shellshock wrote:
I didn't see Chelsea on the schedule for champions league yesterday. Are they playing today, Pande?

Wrong thread m9, this is for domestic football and news :3
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-15 22:13:31
April 15 2015 22:08 GMT
#13259
On April 15 2015 22:15 UdderChaos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2015 19:21 Rebs wrote:
On April 13 2015 19:53 UdderChaos wrote:
On April 13 2015 01:46 Rebs wrote:
On April 13 2015 01:37 malcram wrote:
you say that, but chelsea has a really tough run of games to come. Arsenal and Man Utd both in some amazing form.


yeah except he can easily play not to lose (which he will) see how it goes and then adjust tactics based on the flow of the game and keep more than enough points to canter to the title.

City are making United look wayyyy better than they really are.

If you are going to sit here and tell me that Ashley Young the ultimate one trick poney is going to get touches where he cuts in from the left gets space and launches that same ball over and over again and Chelsea (or really any good team) will let him do that Im sorry.. thats just not going to happen. Same with Fellaini bullying people. Not going to happen against Chelsea or really any decent team + Show Spoiler +
to be fair City are a decent team but the run of form is torrid and the second goal pretty much deflated them. Wasnt much of a game after that. Alot of the game is layed between your ears.


As for Arsenal.. meh.. maybe they have a good day but they dont have the bottle.



Well if those tactics, which allowed us to stroll past spurs, Liverpool and now the current champions city (despite Aguero having his best game in months) apparently don't work against the mighty Chelsea that couldn't even beat a 10 man PSG without Zlatan and scraped a win vs QPR i guess we will painfully have to resort to the untalented likes of Mata, Di Maria and Wayne Rooney. They have been pretty awful since Christmas bar the Swansea game. You want to talk about city making us look good, well Chelsea's position in the table is very flattering of late. Don't get me wrong Chelsea will win the title, but it's on of the worst mourinho teams I think I've ever seen, and without costa or hazard they would look very average.

I don't really see your issue with Ashley young, so a winger that consistently beats his man an puts in a cross is somehow a one trick pony? Isn't that what a winger is supposed to do lol. Not to mention his brilliant link up play and the defensive shift hes put in this year has been phenomenal, hes far more than one trick. This "one trick pony" is keeping out one of the best players in the world last year, di maria, out of the team. Must be one fucking good trick.

As for afroman, since when did physical players that bully opposition not work against almost any teams? There are teams that literally live and breathe this style like stoke. Year after year mid table teams have taken points of the champions by playing long ball physical game, to say it doesn't work against "good team" is just nonsense. And what teams are "good"? it seems like you basically just mean Chelsea.

https://twitter.com/GaryLineker/status/587292714196140032


I disagree that its one of the worst Mou teams ever.

Yes I do basically just mean Chelsea. Frankly the higher tier of English football is pretty loose and jaded this year. Teams have been so disorganized and been taken by the occasion so often. So much kick and rush among top teams and no one trying to control the tempo of the game in possession or trying to ride out a bad period by slowing it down. Because playing it down the flank and using afroman for knockdowns is so much simpler.

Look if you feel like this way of playing gets you places and is impressive. Thats great, good for you. But my belief is it wont get you very far in Europe, not often anyway. Besides I didnt say United was playing poorly or anything so I dont get whats so upsetting.

The Liverpool, Villa and City games are the first time Ive seen United play good football all year. Like impressive football. And Ashley Young has looked like the best player alot of the time. But lets be honest. Its Ashley Young and hes going to start pissing himself at some point. Quote me on it. Its not even like he has quality on either foot. He needs to cut and if teams are letting him cut to put good balls in thats pretty sad for said team. Again if you think that way of playing gets you places great.

Still if you think Man City were not god awful and mentally shot after the second went in then your in some weird denial space and getting horny about a team thats not as good as you think it is.

Even Liverpool since the turn of the year had their run and looked like a killer team. They are not. Form ebbs and flows and \this is clearly United on a high. But playing out of your skin for a few weeks doesnt make you a good team. Look at the season on a whole thats what tells you where you are.

Still if all it takes is a good run to get your dick hard and panties in a twist every time someone criticizes them I cant imagine how bad people like you will be if they actually start winning again. Atleast Arsenal fans enjoy their yearly run of form to a CL spot with some dignity and accept that they arent a champion team. Then again it took them quite a few years to figure that out.

edit.

The reason I respect Simeone is because he doesnt pretend to be anything more than he is and he doesnt try to make excuses for the way he plays and he understands its limitations. He also doesnt get to spend 200 mill on duds...

http://www.espnfc.com/uefa-champions-league/story/2398174/diego-simeone-cristiano-ronaldo-right-real-madrid-players-more-talent-than-atletico-madrid-champions-league


Wow, ok.

Sorry but this is hilariously biased. United play "kick and rush" now? Have you watched a single game were played?
Ashley young is going to "piss himself" at some point, what does this even mean? He's played in a title winning squad, you know that right? And that his way of playing isn't going to "get us places", well its been getting us in the best form of the league recently so im not sure what that's all about. Then, like usual, you go on about how we aren't good other teams are terrible. As a united fan im used to this, almost every year, especially the years we won the titles, we had oppo fans telling us we were terrible and would get "found out" ect.

Then you tell us to look at were we are as a whole and say that tells us were we are. Ok lets play that game. We are 1 point away from second in the table, mathematically still title challengers (albeit dreaming if we think we have any chance of doing that) We started the season as 7th from the year previous, new manager, totally new style of play, had to replace the entire back 4 and the worst injury crisis I've ever seen at this club. We've come out, looking like we will be 2nd or 3rd, and playing some beautiful football while we are at it. That tells me exactly were we are.

As for the "dick hard, panties in a twist comment" which is getting borderline personal, I was merely responding to someone who was being absurdly dismissive, hysterically tendentious and patronizing about our recent form on an open public forum which you know fans of all teams read (despite there obviously being a huge Chelsea love-in here ). If anything your the one with panties in a twist lol.


sigh....

Actually it was deprecating towards the league as whole. I didnt say United play kick and rush .. I saw they pretty much all do, and comparatively to other top teams in other leagues. So im not talking school playground here.

Obviously context is hard to observe. Totally get though most United fans see red + Show Spoiler +
(see what I did there,
the second you say anything about them if somehow they win a few games), I watch games with them every week they never improve.

Again getting to where you are frankly for a club that prizes itself on the kind of quality it has had in the past is a bit of an
underachievement. The Chilean over there was presto league title. He had a "new everything" to.

+ Show Spoiler +
(lets be honest United even when they were good were able to pull out wins playing like shit but atleast they could play some nice football too)


Now the whole season is not just the league there were other competitions too and even if it was just the league, frankly if you arent a title contender in a rather pissy season for everyone except Chelsea.. then you pretty much had a mediocre season.

You want to talk new manager new style of play yaddaa yadaa yadaa ... look at the amount of sheer coin thats been dropped and tell me with a straight face that this team is playing worth the amount of pounds in it.

Give me a break, "ohh look at us coming of a 7th place finish." I feel so bad for you. It must be so hard being Manchester United because they came 7th one season.

I have no bias against any English team. I couldnt give two shits who wins and I would love for all of the top teams to do well and more importantly play with quality. It means I get to watch better teams play. If you think being like 6 points behind the team leading in the league, your toughest run of games to come and 0 other achievement all season is uhmmm "going places" well then good for you. I cant say much to that.

If you think a good run of form to get to those places means your team has turned it around and is now a top team. Again good for you. You now know exactly how Arsenal fans feel season after season. Congratulations.

If you are going to call someone out for bias atleast give me a reason why I am biased, perhaps because you find it hilarious ?
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
April 15 2015 22:45 GMT
#13260
Here is a very good summary of todays press conference with Klopp, in case you have missed it. It had some interesting details.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/arsenal/11537367/Jurgen-Klopp-quits-Borussia-Dortmund-live.html
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