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smr
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany4808 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-16 13:49:05
April 15 2015 23:02 GMT
#13261
I'm having a hard time imagining Dortmund's future and a question to people outside of Germany because of that. Most people seem to think that Thomas Tuchel (former Mainz 05 head coach) is going to be the new guy. Over here he's got a reputation as a difficult character with immense tactical skills. Do people outside Germany know him?

With Klopp leaving I expect a big part of the roster to stay because you cannot change everything at the same time. I find it hard to believe that Dortmund can realize bigger transfers without Klopp and CL/EL. Sure there are quite a few talented players in Germany and there's a bit of money we can offer but I expect that this summer will (again) show that we're nowhere near the european upper class.

Praet is one of those examples who were said to like to play with Klopp and having him and possibly reaching EL that still seemed like a potential transfer target. Now the thought of such a player wearing our jersey seems laughable.

Personal wish for the next bvb coach
+ Show Spoiler +
1. The Special One
2. Wenger
3. Ex-Barca-Dutch-Superman (De Boer, Cocu, Koeman)
4. Mostly everybody else - I'll support you. You deserve a chance
5. Somebody with a Schalke-past - Do not set foot into our beautiful city.
TerransHill
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany572 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-16 21:45:34
April 16 2015 21:45 GMT
#13262
wow Müller-Wohlfahrt and his complete medical team steps down at Bayern all of a sudden after almost 40 years.
What the hell? What is Pep doing??
Respect my authoritah!!
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18718 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-16 22:02:32
April 16 2015 21:52 GMT
#13263
WTF
This is abysmal news for Bayern, even if Pep wins treble now it will be worth NOTHING if Müller-Wohlfahrt doesn't come back.
He is like the best doctors for athletes in the whole world. Even Usain Bolt goes to him for healing.

Guardiola - worse than Mourinho.
what a bad loser, he screws up himself and blames the doc


https://v.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/4A8BC414181200571633241645056_35b5cb42d94.2.1.11987224439273216402.mp4?versionId=B4SaTfXj1YF5kooAZ_kzTOjdXlusQOrW
Next time someone says Guardiola is better than Mourinho I will show them this scene:
This is so incredibly disrespectful.
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
April 16 2015 22:19 GMT
#13264
Woah I just caught up with that.
What a bad doctor he must be, he obviously applied some "horse placenta" treatment and it backfired.

*yeah, I read that he applies homeopathy to his patients, lmao. What a joke.
Pep helped bayern here tremendously.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
April 16 2015 22:25 GMT
#13265
On April 17 2015 07:19 Steveling wrote:
Woah I just caught up with that.
What a bad doctor he must be, he obviously applied some "horse placenta" treatment and it backfired.

*yeah, I read that he applies homeopathy to his patients, lmao. What a joke.
Pep helped bayern here tremendously.

The thing is, he's been doing similar stuff for 40 years, but for the most part his results must have been great. Look at who he successfully treated, I can't imagine he didnt know what he was doing despite some "creative" treaments. Still I have a hard time making sense of the continued success he had.
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-16 22:40:54
April 16 2015 22:40 GMT
#13266
Well, sadly all things must come to an end, and he has almost half of Bayern starting XI out,

Not to mention, i really hope they give an explanation because if the reason is "We dont like Pep", its really childish, everyone has to work with people they dont like once in a while
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
smr
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany4808 Posts
April 16 2015 22:46 GMT
#13267
MW did the same thing 2008 after problems with Klinsmann. A few moments later Klinsmann left Bayern and MW came back. That said I can't believe the smallest rumours that Bayern would part ways with Guardiola even if they would go out in this year's cl quarterfinals. But Uli Hoeneß is needed to clean up the mess and show everybody his place. Bayern slowly need to start concentrating on preparing the future with a lot of the most important players being 30+.
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
April 16 2015 22:52 GMT
#13268
Meh, the guy is old, he's practicing "creative new treatments" and homeopathy.
I'd bet that he has worked for or been influenced by the infamous eastern germany criminal "doctors" from the 60's, 70's and 80's.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
TerransHill
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany572 Posts
April 17 2015 06:04 GMT
#13269
His success is undeniable. The best athletes from all over the world seek his advice.
Its just crazy to blame him just because we a problem with injuries at the moment.
Pep should just come down to earth.
Respect my authoritah!!
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
April 17 2015 07:37 GMT
#13270
Why hasn't Arsene sacked his entire Dr/Physio team then? He is in the same boat every season his players are injured all the time......Problem is Wenger hasn't got an ego like Pep thats why but they are both similar managers in which they must over train there teams tremendously due to the amount of injuries that pile up.

Anyone seen a Mourinho team with a mass injury list? Or a Ferguson team with mass injury list? Nope not that i can remember.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18718 Posts
April 17 2015 07:49 GMT
#13271
On April 17 2015 07:19 Steveling wrote:
Woah I just caught up with that.
What a bad doctor he must be, he obviously applied some "horse placenta" treatment and it backfired.

*yeah, I read that he applies homeopathy to his patients, lmao. What a joke.
Pep helped bayern here tremendously.


You don't have any clue.

Btw you do know that Barca's doctor is the reason Thiago was injured for so long?
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
April 17 2015 07:51 GMT
#13272
I think Pep takes his job way too seriously and he has been going mental after winning everything with Barça tbh (stress).

Btw in the previous CL ro8 day, the coaches of the 4 teams were Lopetegui, Luis Enrique, Laurent Blanc and Pep. All 4 former Barça players :D
Revolutionist fan
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-17 08:37:57
April 17 2015 08:35 GMT
#13273
On April 17 2015 16:37 Pandemona wrote:
Why hasn't Arsene sacked his entire Dr/Physio team then? He is in the same boat every season his players are injured all the time......Problem is Wenger hasn't got an ego like Pep thats why but they are both similar managers in which they must over train there teams tremendously due to the amount of injuries that pile up.

Anyone seen a Mourinho team with a mass injury list? Or a Ferguson team with mass injury list? Nope not that i can remember.


It is all about fitness training. Mourinho has always brought Rui Faria along with him wherever he went. I remember an old Lampard (or Terry forgot who) interview touching on the fact that players were never tired after a training with Mourinho, rather just satisfied. I've heard similar stories at Inter and Porto, also Madrid. Muscle injuries are the primary cause of injuries so by not stressing them too much you reduce injuries. A dutch physician has also hammered on this method as well and it makes sense, why are you running marathons when playing football is about bursts? Why not just play games and build fitness levels while practicing at the same time.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
April 17 2015 08:53 GMT
#13274
On April 17 2015 17:35 Ysellian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2015 16:37 Pandemona wrote:
Why hasn't Arsene sacked his entire Dr/Physio team then? He is in the same boat every season his players are injured all the time......Problem is Wenger hasn't got an ego like Pep thats why but they are both similar managers in which they must over train there teams tremendously due to the amount of injuries that pile up.

Anyone seen a Mourinho team with a mass injury list? Or a Ferguson team with mass injury list? Nope not that i can remember.


It is all about fitness training. Mourinho has always brought Rui Faria along with him wherever he went. I remember an old Lampard (or Terry forgot who) interview touching on the fact that players were never tired after a training with Mourinho, rather just satisfied. I've heard similar stories at Inter and Porto, also Madrid. Muscle injuries are the primary cause of injuries so by not stressing them too much you reduce injuries. A dutch physician has also hammered on this method as well and it makes sense, why are you running marathons when playing football is about bursts? Why not just play games and build fitness levels while practicing at the same time.


Exactly. Mourinho always says his teams are "fit" like 1-2 weeks into a new season and pre season is just building them up and then they are ready to go.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-17 11:10:19
April 17 2015 11:02 GMT
#13275
Pep has always strong problems with people who has big recognition/present aswell.
See Sammer, Klopp, Mourinho, Ibrahimovic, Ronaldinho etc. He always look back/away or/and says nothing. Sammer is pretty much the same as Pep. Both are pretty weak in critical discussions.

Edit: A very huge loss for Bayern. Pep is going to realize that he failed pretty hard because many Bayern players still want MW.
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
April 17 2015 12:24 GMT
#13276
On April 16 2015 08:02 smr wrote:
I'm having a hard time imagining Dortmund's future and a question to people outside of Germany because of that. Most people seem to think that Thomas Tuchel (former Mainz 05 head coach) is going to be the new guy. Over here he's got a reputation as a difficult character with immense tactical skills. Do people outside Germany know him?

With Klopp leaving I expect a big part of the roster to stay because you cannot change everything at the same time. I find it hard to believe that Dortmund can realize bigger transfers without Klopp and CL/EL. Sure there are quite a few talented players in Germany and there's a bit of money we can offer but I expect that this summer will (again) show that we're nowhere near the european upper class.

Praet is one of those examples who were said to like to play with Klopp and having him and possibly reaching EL that still seemed like a potential transfer target. Now the thought of such a player wearing our jersey seems laughable.

Personal wish for the next bvb coach
+ Show Spoiler +
1. The Special One
2. Wenger
3. Ex-Barca-Dutch-Superman (De Boer, Cocu, Koeman)
4. Mostly everybody else - I'll support you. You deserve a chance
5. Somebody with a Schalke-past - Do not set foot into our beautiful city.


I don't think it's going to be as bad as you've made it out to be. Dortmund 1) has money, 2) has one of the best fan bases in Europe, and 3) still has talent and the ability to consistently make Europe. They even still have a good shot of making Europe this year. Furthermore, they've locked down Reus and rumors are that Hummels will re-sign (still not sure about Gündogan). As hard as it is to imagine life without Klopp and some of these players, I think that Dortmund has enough resources to weather the storm.

As for managers, I would hate to see Mourinho come to Dortmund. I really think we need someone who knows the German game (and preferably knows the language - not everyone will be like Pep). I think Tuchel or maybe Favre would be good fits.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
April 17 2015 13:10 GMT
#13277
dortmund was about to be relegated and now they are fighting for a European spot

you can clearly see that the talent and the skills are there, as long as they dont make a world class fucked up, they should be fine next year

Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-17 13:20:48
April 17 2015 13:17 GMT
#13278
On April 17 2015 06:52 sharkie wrote:
WTF
This is abysmal news for Bayern, even if Pep wins treble now it will be worth NOTHING if Müller-Wohlfahrt doesn't come back.
He is like the best doctors for athletes in the whole world. Even Usain Bolt goes to him for healing.

Guardiola - worse than Mourinho.
what a bad loser, he screws up himself and blames the doc


https://v.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/4A8BC414181200571633241645056_35b5cb42d94.2.1.11987224439273216402.mp4?versionId=B4SaTfXj1YF5kooAZ_kzTOjdXlusQOrW
Next time someone says Guardiola is better than Mourinho I will show them this scene:
This is so incredibly disrespectful.


And then they will show you like half a dozen of Mourinho flip outs. Guardiola doesnt get along well with strong personalities. We know that.

Neither does Mou. The difference is Mou just gets rid of them and doesnt even give it a chance. Guardiola is more naive that way.

Also last I heard Mourinhos star striker has been run into the ground and keeps getting hurt. Bang up job managing player fitness that is.

Point being I dont think there is a single person here with the understanding, knowledge or knowhow of how behind the scenes player management works and is qualified to make statements like these.

The amount of kicking these players take on a daily basis any normal person would be nursing sores and unable to play after just 30 mins of being on the pitch. So they all clearly do very good jobs at the top level.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-17 13:22:47
April 17 2015 13:21 GMT
#13279
On April 17 2015 22:17 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2015 06:52 sharkie wrote:
WTF
This is abysmal news for Bayern, even if Pep wins treble now it will be worth NOTHING if Müller-Wohlfahrt doesn't come back.
He is like the best doctors for athletes in the whole world. Even Usain Bolt goes to him for healing.

Guardiola - worse than Mourinho.
what a bad loser, he screws up himself and blames the doc


https://v.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/4A8BC414181200571633241645056_35b5cb42d94.2.1.11987224439273216402.mp4?versionId=B4SaTfXj1YF5kooAZ_kzTOjdXlusQOrW
Next time someone says Guardiola is better than Mourinho I will show them this scene:
This is so incredibly disrespectful.


And then they will show you like half a dozen of Mourinho flip outs. Guardiola doesnt get along well with strong personalities. We know that.

Neither does Mou. The difference is Mou just gets rid of them and doesnt even give it a chance. Guardiola is more naive that way.

Also last I heard Mourinhos star striker has been run into the ground and keeps getting hurt. Bang up job managing player fitness that is.

Even you know that isn't even close to being true.
His hamstring was ruined by Simeone last season which the whole world knows. Then by Spain who made him play in qualifiers and injured him again in the November time. He has picked up 1 injury for Chelsea and that was the one he got vs Stoke
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zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6343 Posts
April 17 2015 13:30 GMT
#13280
On April 17 2015 17:53 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2015 17:35 Ysellian wrote:
On April 17 2015 16:37 Pandemona wrote:
Why hasn't Arsene sacked his entire Dr/Physio team then? He is in the same boat every season his players are injured all the time......Problem is Wenger hasn't got an ego like Pep thats why but they are both similar managers in which they must over train there teams tremendously due to the amount of injuries that pile up.

Anyone seen a Mourinho team with a mass injury list? Or a Ferguson team with mass injury list? Nope not that i can remember.


It is all about fitness training. Mourinho has always brought Rui Faria along with him wherever he went. I remember an old Lampard (or Terry forgot who) interview touching on the fact that players were never tired after a training with Mourinho, rather just satisfied. I've heard similar stories at Inter and Porto, also Madrid. Muscle injuries are the primary cause of injuries so by not stressing them too much you reduce injuries. A dutch physician has also hammered on this method as well and it makes sense, why are you running marathons when playing football is about bursts? Why not just play games and build fitness levels while practicing at the same time.


Exactly. Mourinho always says his teams are "fit" like 1-2 weeks into a new season and pre season is just building them up and then they are ready to go.

We seem to be really struggling to 'look fit' in the second half of the season though. Don't know if thats got to do with fitness lvl's or we just love half-assing it.
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