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Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-12 16:43:28
April 12 2015 16:42 GMT
#13201
+ Show Spoiler [Graphic] +
[image loading]


Musacchio

that gotta hurt

Remind me of Larsson
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
April 12 2015 16:43 GMT
#13202
Spoilered that for you Faruko bit rough xD
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Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-12 16:48:55
April 12 2015 16:46 GMT
#13203
On April 13 2015 01:37 malcram wrote:
you say that, but chelsea has a really tough run of games to come. Arsenal and Man Utd both in some amazing form.


yeah except he can easily play not to lose (which he will) see how it goes and then adjust tactics based on the flow of the game and keep more than enough points to canter to the title.

City are making United look wayyyy better than they really are.

If you are going to sit here and tell me that Ashley Young the ultimate one trick poney is going to get touches where he cuts in from the left gets space and launches that same ball over and over again and Chelsea (or really any good team) will let him do that Im sorry.. thats just not going to happen. Same with Fellaini bullying people. Not going to happen against Chelsea or really any decent team + Show Spoiler +
to be fair City are a decent team but the run of form is torrid and the second goal pretty much deflated them. Wasnt much of a game after that. Alot of the game is layed between your ears.


As for Arsenal.. meh.. maybe they have a good day but they dont have the bottle.
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-12 16:52:08
April 12 2015 16:50 GMT
#13204
your are saying that as if Chelsea has been superb and has been winning every game 10-0, yet they have not and they have played really bad lately, they are "lucky" that England its in such situation that that performance make them looking like a good team

if this wasnt 7-10 points of difference, i would think that either team have a decent chance (3-4 points)

Fergusson would have won this league since day 1
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4187 Posts
April 12 2015 16:52 GMT
#13205
On April 13 2015 01:27 Twisted wrote:
2 offside goals by Man U this game :o.


Only 1 offside, Mangala played everyone onside in the Smalling goal.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
April 12 2015 17:00 GMT
#13206
Yeah Mangala was very poor there, steps back and plays them all on :s
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Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-12 17:05:32
April 12 2015 17:03 GMT
#13207
On April 13 2015 01:50 Faruko wrote:
your are saying that as if Chelsea has been superb and has been winning every game 10-0, yet they have not and they have played really bad lately, they are "lucky" that England its in such situation that that performance make them looking like a good team

if this wasnt 7-10 points of difference, i would think that either team have a decent chance (3-4 points)

Fergusson would have won this league since day 1


IF this if that..

Well I'm not talking about ifs. And nor have I exaggerated Chelsea's position. They play stable and have ground out results when needed which has been rare, but they did it

Every team has a poor spell. Chelsea is no different. The difference is the ability to win games when having a poor day.

They also play big games better.

Chelsea is not without its flaws. THey lack depth, and their current playstyle revolves around certain players dominating their matchup so the rest of the team can flourish (which is a suspect strategy in the long run) a

Heck I rank them well behind Real, Barca, Bayern in the same sort of league as your Juve's and PSG's which is a tier below.

But they are still by far the best team in England and have looked it from Day 1.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18755 Posts
April 12 2015 17:09 GMT
#13208
The only way for Chelsea to lose the title now would be matchfixing...

I mean they are so far ahead, no way they dont end up as champions
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
April 12 2015 17:15 GMT
#13209
Thats the thing, Chelsea took advantage of their moment and stayed "decently" on their worst.
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
April 12 2015 17:23 GMT
#13210
On April 13 2015 02:15 Faruko wrote:
Thats the thing, Chelsea took advantage of their moment and stayed "decently" on their worst.


Well thats the thing with all top teams not just Chelsea. No team is perfect and everyone has a bad spell. Some more than others. A team playing a near perfect season staying in form all year is an exception not the rule.

Im not quite sure what point your trying to make. Are you saying that Chelsea dont have this in the bag ? Or that England is a weak league this year? Not sure I follow.
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-12 18:13:00
April 12 2015 18:12 GMT
#13211
On April 13 2015 02:23 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2015 02:15 Faruko wrote:
Thats the thing, Chelsea took advantage of their moment and stayed "decently" on their worst.


Well thats the thing with all top teams not just Chelsea. No team is perfect and everyone has a bad spell. Some more than others. A team playing a near perfect season staying in form all year is an exception not the rule.

Im not quite sure what point your trying to make. Are you saying that Chelsea dont have this in the bag ? Or that England is a weak league this year? Not sure I follow.

Chelsea has its in the bag (althou weirder things have happen)

the second is without a doubt a reality (which doesnt make it boring, its the most entertaining league by far)
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
April 12 2015 19:02 GMT
#13212
On April 13 2015 01:52 Dante08 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2015 01:27 Twisted wrote:
2 offside goals by Man U this game :o.


Only 1 offside, Mangala played everyone onside in the Smalling goal.


I know, I posted the 2 offside goals thing after the 3-1. They didn't mention it in the replay but I thought Fellaini was just ever so slightly offside with his goal.
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vflux
Profile Joined July 2011
New Zealand118 Posts
April 12 2015 19:52 GMT
#13213
On April 13 2015 01:50 Faruko wrote:
your are saying that as if Chelsea has been superb and has been winning every game 10-0, yet they have not and they have played really bad lately, they are "lucky" that England its in such situation that that performance make them looking like a good team

if this wasnt 7-10 points of difference, i would think that either team have a decent chance (3-4 points)

Fergusson would have won this league since day 1


You mean the same Ferguson whose teams were notorious for doing exactly what Chelsea is, winning even though they're playing shit?
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
April 12 2015 20:03 GMT
#13214
On April 13 2015 04:52 vflux wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2015 01:50 Faruko wrote:
your are saying that as if Chelsea has been superb and has been winning every game 10-0, yet they have not and they have played really bad lately, they are "lucky" that England its in such situation that that performance make them looking like a good team

if this wasnt 7-10 points of difference, i would think that either team have a decent chance (3-4 points)

Fergusson would have won this league since day 1


You mean the same Ferguson whose teams were notorious for doing exactly what Chelsea is, winning even though they're playing shit?


Chewing gum black magic is real...
UdderChaos
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United Kingdom707 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-13 11:02:00
April 13 2015 10:53 GMT
#13215
On April 13 2015 01:46 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2015 01:37 malcram wrote:
you say that, but chelsea has a really tough run of games to come. Arsenal and Man Utd both in some amazing form.


yeah except he can easily play not to lose (which he will) see how it goes and then adjust tactics based on the flow of the game and keep more than enough points to canter to the title.

City are making United look wayyyy better than they really are.

If you are going to sit here and tell me that Ashley Young the ultimate one trick poney is going to get touches where he cuts in from the left gets space and launches that same ball over and over again and Chelsea (or really any good team) will let him do that Im sorry.. thats just not going to happen. Same with Fellaini bullying people. Not going to happen against Chelsea or really any decent team + Show Spoiler +
to be fair City are a decent team but the run of form is torrid and the second goal pretty much deflated them. Wasnt much of a game after that. Alot of the game is layed between your ears.


As for Arsenal.. meh.. maybe they have a good day but they dont have the bottle.



Well if those tactics, which allowed us to stroll past spurs, Liverpool and now the current champions city (despite Aguero having his best game in months) apparently don't work against the mighty Chelsea that couldn't even beat a 10 man PSG without Zlatan and scraped a win vs QPR i guess we will painfully have to resort to the untalented likes of Mata, Di Maria and Wayne Rooney. They have been pretty awful since Christmas bar the Swansea game. You want to talk about city making us look good, well Chelsea's position in the table is very flattering of late. Don't get me wrong Chelsea will win the title, but it's on of the worst mourinho teams I think I've ever seen, and without costa or hazard they would look very average.

I don't really see your issue with Ashley young, so a winger that consistently beats his man an puts in a cross is somehow a one trick pony? Isn't that what a winger is supposed to do lol. Not to mention his brilliant link up play and the defensive shift hes put in this year has been phenomenal, hes far more than one trick. This "one trick pony" is keeping out one of the best players in the world last year, di maria, out of the team. Must be one fucking good trick.

As for afroman, since when did physical players that bully opposition not work against almost any teams? There are teams that literally live and breathe this style like stoke. Year after year mid table teams have taken points of the champions by playing long ball physical game, to say it doesn't work against "good team" is just nonsense. And what teams are "good"? it seems like you basically just mean Chelsea.

Nunquam iens addo vos sursum
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
April 13 2015 11:09 GMT
#13216
On April 13 2015 19:53 UdderChaos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2015 01:46 Rebs wrote:
On April 13 2015 01:37 malcram wrote:
you say that, but chelsea has a really tough run of games to come. Arsenal and Man Utd both in some amazing form.


yeah except he can easily play not to lose (which he will) see how it goes and then adjust tactics based on the flow of the game and keep more than enough points to canter to the title.

City are making United look wayyyy better than they really are.

If you are going to sit here and tell me that Ashley Young the ultimate one trick poney is going to get touches where he cuts in from the left gets space and launches that same ball over and over again and Chelsea (or really any good team) will let him do that Im sorry.. thats just not going to happen. Same with Fellaini bullying people. Not going to happen against Chelsea or really any decent team + Show Spoiler +
to be fair City are a decent team but the run of form is torrid and the second goal pretty much deflated them. Wasnt much of a game after that. Alot of the game is layed between your ears.


As for Arsenal.. meh.. maybe they have a good day but they dont have the bottle.



Well if those tactics, which allowed us to stroll past spurs, Liverpool and now the current champions city (despite Aguero having his best game in months) apparently don't work against the mighty Chelsea that couldn't even beat a 10 man PSG without Zlatan and scraped a win vs QPR i guess we will painfully have to resort to the untalented likes of Mata, Di Maria and Wayne Rooney. They have been pretty awful since Christmas bar the Swansea game. You want to talk about city making us look good, well Chelsea's position in the table is very flattering of late. Don't get me wrong Chelsea will win the title, but it's on of the worst mourinho teams I think I've ever seen, and without costa or hazard they would look very average.

I don't really see your issue with Ashley young, so a winger that consistently beats his man an puts in a cross is somehow a one trick pony? Isn't that what a winger is supposed to do lol. Not to mention his brilliant link up play and the defensive shift hes put in this year has been phenomenal, hes far more than one trick. This "one trick pony" is keeping out one of the best players in the world last year, di maria, out of the team. Must be one fucking good trick.

As for afroman, since when did physical players that bully opposition not work against almost any teams? There are teams that literally live and breathe this style like stoke. Year after year mid table teams have taken points of the champions by playing long ball physical game, to say it doesn't work against "good team" is just nonsense. And what teams are "good"? it seems like you basically just mean Chelsea.


Bit harsh on Chelsea, we have had our bad spell at the wrong time but we are still undefeated in the league since December with 7Wins and 3Draws in that period. We have won and lost the most games in the league by a fair way (2 defeats) and still have a game in hand. We have scored the most goals in the league and conceded the least out of the top 4 (Southampton have best) so there isn't much more we can do on paper at least.
Yanited have blown away a Liverpool side who played terrible a Spurs side which is more inconsistent than any other team it seems and also you beat City who in a form table are 13th! Losing their last 4 away games in a row.

On Afroman the bullying aspect wont work when the guy he has to bully is Matic a guy physically as strong as him or vs defenders as physical as him. Yaya doesn't defend or put a shift in, that meant yesterday he was against Fernandinho who is not going to deal with that threat, also the defense of City is shocking.
vs Arsenal he will be even more effective and could possibly win the game against them with him alone due to how much he will dominate there midfield if you start lumping the ball to him.
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UdderChaos
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United Kingdom707 Posts
April 13 2015 11:26 GMT
#13217
On April 13 2015 20:09 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2015 19:53 UdderChaos wrote:
On April 13 2015 01:46 Rebs wrote:
On April 13 2015 01:37 malcram wrote:
you say that, but chelsea has a really tough run of games to come. Arsenal and Man Utd both in some amazing form.


yeah except he can easily play not to lose (which he will) see how it goes and then adjust tactics based on the flow of the game and keep more than enough points to canter to the title.

City are making United look wayyyy better than they really are.

If you are going to sit here and tell me that Ashley Young the ultimate one trick poney is going to get touches where he cuts in from the left gets space and launches that same ball over and over again and Chelsea (or really any good team) will let him do that Im sorry.. thats just not going to happen. Same with Fellaini bullying people. Not going to happen against Chelsea or really any decent team + Show Spoiler +
to be fair City are a decent team but the run of form is torrid and the second goal pretty much deflated them. Wasnt much of a game after that. Alot of the game is layed between your ears.


As for Arsenal.. meh.. maybe they have a good day but they dont have the bottle.



Well if those tactics, which allowed us to stroll past spurs, Liverpool and now the current champions city (despite Aguero having his best game in months) apparently don't work against the mighty Chelsea that couldn't even beat a 10 man PSG without Zlatan and scraped a win vs QPR i guess we will painfully have to resort to the untalented likes of Mata, Di Maria and Wayne Rooney. They have been pretty awful since Christmas bar the Swansea game. You want to talk about city making us look good, well Chelsea's position in the table is very flattering of late. Don't get me wrong Chelsea will win the title, but it's on of the worst mourinho teams I think I've ever seen, and without costa or hazard they would look very average.

I don't really see your issue with Ashley young, so a winger that consistently beats his man an puts in a cross is somehow a one trick pony? Isn't that what a winger is supposed to do lol. Not to mention his brilliant link up play and the defensive shift hes put in this year has been phenomenal, hes far more than one trick. This "one trick pony" is keeping out one of the best players in the world last year, di maria, out of the team. Must be one fucking good trick.

As for afroman, since when did physical players that bully opposition not work against almost any teams? There are teams that literally live and breathe this style like stoke. Year after year mid table teams have taken points of the champions by playing long ball physical game, to say it doesn't work against "good team" is just nonsense. And what teams are "good"? it seems like you basically just mean Chelsea.


Bit harsh on Chelsea, we have had our bad spell at the wrong time but we are still undefeated in the league since December with 7Wins and 3Draws in that period. We have won and lost the most games in the league by a fair way (2 defeats) and still have a game in hand. We have scored the most goals in the league and conceded the least out of the top 4 (Southampton have best) so there isn't much more we can do on paper at least.
Yanited have blown away a Liverpool side who played terrible a Spurs side which is more inconsistent than any other team it seems and also you beat City who in a form table are 13th! Losing their last 4 away games in a row.

On Afroman the bullying aspect wont work when the guy he has to bully is Matic a guy physically as strong as him or vs defenders as physical as him. Yaya doesn't defend or put a shift in, that meant yesterday he was against Fernandinho who is not going to deal with that threat, also the defense of City is shocking.
vs Arsenal he will be even more effective and could possibly win the game against them with him alone due to how much he will dominate there midfield if you start lumping the ball to him.


If Matic spends the whole game on afroman instead of picking up mata, rooney, herrera and young i think his job is done anyways. Not to mention that despite Matic obviously being better than afroman, i still put bets on Fellenai winning aerial duels more often, even if significantly less than against most players.
Nunquam iens addo vos sursum
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
April 13 2015 11:39 GMT
#13218
On April 13 2015 20:26 UdderChaos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2015 20:09 Pandemona wrote:
On April 13 2015 19:53 UdderChaos wrote:
On April 13 2015 01:46 Rebs wrote:
On April 13 2015 01:37 malcram wrote:
you say that, but chelsea has a really tough run of games to come. Arsenal and Man Utd both in some amazing form.


yeah except he can easily play not to lose (which he will) see how it goes and then adjust tactics based on the flow of the game and keep more than enough points to canter to the title.

City are making United look wayyyy better than they really are.

If you are going to sit here and tell me that Ashley Young the ultimate one trick poney is going to get touches where he cuts in from the left gets space and launches that same ball over and over again and Chelsea (or really any good team) will let him do that Im sorry.. thats just not going to happen. Same with Fellaini bullying people. Not going to happen against Chelsea or really any decent team + Show Spoiler +
to be fair City are a decent team but the run of form is torrid and the second goal pretty much deflated them. Wasnt much of a game after that. Alot of the game is layed between your ears.


As for Arsenal.. meh.. maybe they have a good day but they dont have the bottle.



Well if those tactics, which allowed us to stroll past spurs, Liverpool and now the current champions city (despite Aguero having his best game in months) apparently don't work against the mighty Chelsea that couldn't even beat a 10 man PSG without Zlatan and scraped a win vs QPR i guess we will painfully have to resort to the untalented likes of Mata, Di Maria and Wayne Rooney. They have been pretty awful since Christmas bar the Swansea game. You want to talk about city making us look good, well Chelsea's position in the table is very flattering of late. Don't get me wrong Chelsea will win the title, but it's on of the worst mourinho teams I think I've ever seen, and without costa or hazard they would look very average.

I don't really see your issue with Ashley young, so a winger that consistently beats his man an puts in a cross is somehow a one trick pony? Isn't that what a winger is supposed to do lol. Not to mention his brilliant link up play and the defensive shift hes put in this year has been phenomenal, hes far more than one trick. This "one trick pony" is keeping out one of the best players in the world last year, di maria, out of the team. Must be one fucking good trick.

As for afroman, since when did physical players that bully opposition not work against almost any teams? There are teams that literally live and breathe this style like stoke. Year after year mid table teams have taken points of the champions by playing long ball physical game, to say it doesn't work against "good team" is just nonsense. And what teams are "good"? it seems like you basically just mean Chelsea.


Bit harsh on Chelsea, we have had our bad spell at the wrong time but we are still undefeated in the league since December with 7Wins and 3Draws in that period. We have won and lost the most games in the league by a fair way (2 defeats) and still have a game in hand. We have scored the most goals in the league and conceded the least out of the top 4 (Southampton have best) so there isn't much more we can do on paper at least.
Yanited have blown away a Liverpool side who played terrible a Spurs side which is more inconsistent than any other team it seems and also you beat City who in a form table are 13th! Losing their last 4 away games in a row.

On Afroman the bullying aspect wont work when the guy he has to bully is Matic a guy physically as strong as him or vs defenders as physical as him. Yaya doesn't defend or put a shift in, that meant yesterday he was against Fernandinho who is not going to deal with that threat, also the defense of City is shocking.
vs Arsenal he will be even more effective and could possibly win the game against them with him alone due to how much he will dominate there midfield if you start lumping the ball to him.


If Matic spends the whole game on afroman instead of picking up mata, rooney, herrera and young i think his job is done anyways. Not to mention that despite Matic obviously being better than afroman, i still put bets on Fellenai winning aerial duels more often, even if significantly less than against most players.

Lol Mata
Fellaini is central with Rooney those two will be vs our 2 centre backs and Matic with Cesc lol'n around xD
Young vs Ivanovic and Mata vs Dave is more than fine for Chelsea to deal with. You are away from home too when you play us on Saturday. Should be a fun game though if the form of Yanited is as good as the books say
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malcram
Profile Joined November 2010
2752 Posts
April 13 2015 17:48 GMT
#13219
does sterling actually think he has a spot in other clubs... lol...that kid is delusional. he's good, but not THAT good.
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
April 13 2015 17:54 GMT
#13220
He is THAT good

But he is also THAT dumb
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
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