EPTNBA Offseason 2014 - Page 32
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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Ace
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andrewlt
United States7702 Posts
http://www.theonion.com/articles/breaking-lebron-james-leaning-toward-joining-alqae,36417/ | ||
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icystorage
Jollibee19350 Posts
??? maybe the moves the cavs did was for this? | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17892 Posts
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Jerubaal
United States7684 Posts
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XaI)CyRiC
United States4471 Posts
On July 10 2014 22:33 Ace wrote: Wade is healthier than Manu. He'll be fine. Interesting how you call Wade broken when he was only bad in the Finals and put up good numbers all year. Did you conveniently just not watch Miami play at all? The problem is that it's hard to see the Heat being able to compete during the regular season with Wade playing so little (assuming no Lebron and Bosh), while the Spurs have uniquely amazing depth that allow them to compete at an elite level even with their big 3 missing a lot of games. Any FAs who signed in MIA would essentially have to assume the burden of carrying the team through the regular season since Wade would have to be very limited, and assume that burden with what is at least currently a barren roster comprised of a few role players/specialists. Comparing Wade to Manu doesn't make sense if you ignore the circumstances for their respective teams. Manu missing a chunk of time during the regular season isn't a big deal because of the Spurs' uniquely amazing depth that allows them to obtain a top seed despite playing their stars very little. The Heat doesn't have that kind of depth (or any roster right now), and it's nigh impossible that they'd be able to assemble that kind of depth in only a year or two. Wade put up good numbers during the regular season last year, but that was with him taking chunks of time off and having Lebron and Bosh to carry a large burden. He basically got to play when he felt like it and sat when he didn't. It's not a stretch to say that he'd certainly experience a significant drop-off if he wasn't afforded that luxury. We also have to consider Wade's style of play (poor 3pt shooting, focused on mid-range and the paint) vs. Manu's (good 3pt shooting, plays a lot on the perimeter) when assessing how their respective injuries/health would affect their PT and effectiveness. In the end, I think MIA projects as no more attractive of a destination than the Lakers with Kobe or the Knicks with Melo. MIA and LAL offer aging superstar SGs, barren rosters and cap space, and a reputable front office. The Knicks would offer the superstar closest to his prime and producing the best, lots of cap space, and a front office that, while less experienced and proven than the other two, appears headed in the right direction with the legendary PJ at the top. I think CHI would be a more attractive destinations, or even a team like PHO who have talent, some depth, and cap space. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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Haiq343
United States2548 Posts
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
i guess i should say i don't think the east will be quite THIS bad in a couple years. On July 11 2014 06:36 zulu_nation8 wrote: I just hope to God Melo goes somewhere else and Knicks start from scratch. dream scenario would be cleveland getting lebron then sign and trade melo from knicks for wiggins. based phil pls | ||
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andrewlt
United States7702 Posts
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DystopiaX
United States16236 Posts
It's funny you say that about the east cause I don't quite disagree but I feel like Miami innovated a lot with their small ball offense and the whole defensive revolution came from Thibs in Boston/Chicago. Yet outside of those teams I would say a lot of east teams play old school/plain shitty schemes. | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On July 11 2014 08:34 DystopiaX wrote: I mean it would be harder for the east to get any worse. It's funny you say that about the east cause I don't quite disagree but I feel like Miami innovated a lot with their small ball offense and the whole defensive revolution came from Thibs in Boston/Chicago. Yet outside of those teams I would say a lot of east teams play old school/plain shitty schemes. I think Orlando was fairly innovative as well. I'm surprised there hasn't been more research into the topic, since it's trending on 25 years now (even in Jordan's reign, the East was weaker top-to-bottom.) There's something to be said for having more superstars (Duncan, Shaq, Kobe, etc.) in their prime, player movement and consolidation (the Heat and Celtics turned 5 playoff teams into 2) but beyond that I'm not sure. I'm not sold that the West's bottom teams have better GMs than the East's bottom teams. Perhaps the East has had a few more superstar injuries than the West but not enough for the disparity. There's certainly more stars moving West than East, but I don't know why. Houston has a worse climate than Orlando and both states have tax benefits. | ||
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zev318
Canada4306 Posts
and in that draft, the heat took beasley over the likes of westbrook/love/gordon 2004 howard/deng/iguodala, howard/iguodala eventually went west, deng who know atm. 2005 williams/paul/bogut, paul stayed in the west, bogut eventually went west 2006 aldridge/roy went west, best player the east got was rondo 2007 durant went west 2009 basically all the top picks went to the west. griffin/harden/curry 2010 was a pretty weak draft with wall/george being the best coming out but neither are true franchise players atm 2011 another weak draft with irving/thompson/leonard, 2 of which went west 2012 davis/lillard west, best east got? bradley beal? | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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RowdierBob
Australia13526 Posts
On July 10 2014 22:42 Ace wrote: He should be. Allegedly the problem is he can be good for 3 weeks but then needs 2 weeks to recover. Hence the part time superstar label he has. Just funny to see Bob say Wade is broken when he looked good up until his recovery point - the Finals. He ended up playing more minutes than Manu iirc. You're misinterpreting what I said. Wade isn't the star he once was. He's still good but he has dropped off in terms of the impact he can have on games now. And he's become injury prone. He can't play long minutes over the season and it affects hid impact on games. Wade of now is not the wade of old, which a guy like love would absolutely take into consideration. Wade isn't the drawcard he once was which is pretty apparent if LeBron leaves. | ||
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
For anyone who isn't following it (or feel free to correct me if I'm wrong): - Houston wants to sign Bosh and keep Parsons. The only way they can do this is to sign Bosh, then use Parsons' bird rights to sign him (and go over the cap, most likely) - Dallas offered Parsons 3 years / 45 million (he's a restricted free agent) - Houston has 3 days to match the offer sheet, or Dallas gets him - If Houston matches Parsons' deal BEFORE they sign Bosh, they won't have enough cap space to sign Bosh The extra wrinkle is: - In order to sign Bosh, Houston has to get rid of Jeremy Lin's contract This means, Houston has 3 days to (2 days now): get rid of Jeremy Lin's contract and convince Bosh to sign, and then match Parsons. If Bosh doesn't decide, they will either keep or lose Parsons, but if they keep him they lose Bosh, and if they lose Parsons they may also lose Bosh... This puts them in an insane situation. Dallas realizes that if Houston keeps Parsons and Bosh they become arguably the best team in the West, so by throwing this wrench in, they potentially destroy Houston's team and pick up a solid piece in Parsons along the way. #Amazing In other news: the whole LeBron/Carmelo thing is so stupid. This offseason is the dumbest thing ever besides the Dallas/Houston front office battle | ||
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
He's always been injury prone. Problem is now the injuries are catching up to him and he isn't able to recover as well. | ||
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