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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
June 27 2015 19:53 GMT
#2461
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CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
June 27 2015 20:58 GMT
#2462
canucks are AWFUL
© Current year.
Nemireck
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1875 Posts
June 27 2015 21:38 GMT
#2463
On June 27 2015 10:23 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2015 10:08 WarSame wrote:
What the hell happened to Boston in the last few years? They had a great franchise they had built up and it seems like they're just falling apart. Did they lose some key office personnel?



They don't make the playoffs one year and what do you know. They choose to blow it up. They aren't getting any younger and when guys like Chara are consistently out of the lineup due to injuries... the window on their core has timed out considerably. They want to clean house early instead of just making the playoffs to be a contender faster rather than stalling it out.

I don't mind it, but you better get a good return on it.


The biggest mistake the Bruins made was keeping older players and trading younger ones when they started to get into cap trouble. And now they've aged out.

Of course, maybe no one wanted the older guys.
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Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6660 Posts
June 27 2015 22:04 GMT
#2464
So the Oilers get a goalie, Mcdavid and some more 3rd pairing defensemen.. At least this year their D-core will be full of players actual at an NHL level, I mean 95% of them are what most teams would have as their 5-6-7th D but still an improvement.

Is having a goalie in Talbot, Mcdavid and slight Defense improvement enough to pull them from the bottom of the league?
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ii.blitzkrieg
Profile Joined November 2006
Canada1122 Posts
June 27 2015 23:00 GMT
#2465
Don't forget a new coach. They're headed in the right direction it would seem but I doubt it gets them into the playoffs next year unless McDavid has an insane rookie season
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
June 28 2015 05:23 GMT
#2466
On June 28 2015 07:04 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
So the Oilers get a goalie, Mcdavid and some more 3rd pairing defensemen.. At least this year their D-core will be full of players actual at an NHL level, I mean 95% of them are what most teams would have as their 5-6-7th D but still an improvement.

Is having a goalie in Talbot, Mcdavid and slight Defense improvement enough to pull them from the bottom of the league?


I'd say the Oilers have the most dangerous team upfront. Their D got a little better along with their goal tending. They're going to be a lot better.

As for the Bruins, I think you could always say a team could have pulled the plug sooner. More often than not that is the case. Things were going downhill even before Seguin had to go.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
June 28 2015 08:36 GMT
#2467
On June 28 2015 14:23 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2015 07:04 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
So the Oilers get a goalie, Mcdavid and some more 3rd pairing defensemen.. At least this year their D-core will be full of players actual at an NHL level, I mean 95% of them are what most teams would have as their 5-6-7th D but still an improvement.

Is having a goalie in Talbot, Mcdavid and slight Defense improvement enough to pull them from the bottom of the league?


I'd say the Oilers have the most dangerous team upfront. Their D got a little better along with their goal tending. They're going to be a lot better.

As for the Bruins, I think you could always say a team could have pulled the plug sooner. More often than not that is the case. Things were going downhill even before Seguin had to go.


Edmonton's forwards aren't even comparable to Tampa or Chicago.
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
June 28 2015 13:26 GMT
#2468
On June 28 2015 17:36 GolemMadness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2015 14:23 StarStruck wrote:
On June 28 2015 07:04 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
So the Oilers get a goalie, Mcdavid and some more 3rd pairing defensemen.. At least this year their D-core will be full of players actual at an NHL level, I mean 95% of them are what most teams would have as their 5-6-7th D but still an improvement.

Is having a goalie in Talbot, Mcdavid and slight Defense improvement enough to pull them from the bottom of the league?


I'd say the Oilers have the most dangerous team upfront. Their D got a little better along with their goal tending. They're going to be a lot better.

As for the Bruins, I think you could always say a team could have pulled the plug sooner. More often than not that is the case. Things were going downhill even before Seguin had to go.


Edmonton's forwards aren't even comparable to Tampa or Chicago.


A lot of those kids on the Oilers are going into their primes and they're going to be one of the most fun teams to watch. Quite a few studs and now that they have their marque player. They're going to be really fun to watch.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
June 28 2015 16:09 GMT
#2469
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32152 Posts
June 28 2015 18:02 GMT
#2470
I think the lack of team GF is more due to their depth being abysmal than it is their first liners being bad. Guys like Teddy Purcell, Boyd Gordon, Benoit Pouliot, etc were getting top 6 minutes at times last year. The Oilers basically have a first line, a third line, and two fourths.

McDavid means they actually have two real top six centers, and it means Yak might actually get meaningful ice time with non-pluggers. It's been amazing how poorly used he's been, and then people are baffled when a guy drafted for his offense isn't able to drag around mooks while scoring 60 goals.
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Nemireck
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1875 Posts
June 28 2015 20:57 GMT
#2471
It also has a lot to do with their D being so terrible.

Better D = More possession = More goals

At least that's how the theory is supposed to work :p
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-28 21:05:26
June 28 2015 21:02 GMT
#2472
On June 29 2015 03:02 QuanticHawk wrote:
I think the lack of team GF is more due to their depth being abysmal than it is their first liners being bad. Guys like Teddy Purcell, Boyd Gordon, Benoit Pouliot, etc were getting top 6 minutes at times last year. The Oilers basically have a first line, a third line, and two fourths.

McDavid means they actually have two real top six centers, and it means Yak might actually get meaningful ice time with non-pluggers. It's been amazing how poorly used he's been, and then people are baffled when a guy drafted for his offense isn't able to drag around mooks while scoring 60 goals.


It also falls back on their lack of production from the blue line as well. They're team is going to explode fairly soon. It's just a question of time before it clicks in.

On June 29 2015 05:57 Nemireck wrote:
It also has a lot to do with their D being so terrible.

Better D = More possession = More goals

At least that's how the theory is supposed to work :p


Sorry I completely missed your post. Agree completely. That and McDavid is going to change the complexion of the team. Look how much has changed already and it isn't even July 1st yet. >_<
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32152 Posts
June 28 2015 21:32 GMT
#2473
Yeah definitely agree about their defense. And they traded Petry who was one of the few good ones they had haha.

MTL just bought out the last year of Parenteau's contract for some reason. PA's a decent enough top 6 player in the right system. Therien just had no damn clue how to use him.

Even if they really wanted to be rid of him I don't get the buyout. The apparent logic is that they're going to massively overpay Balesky or Vermette.
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
June 28 2015 22:06 GMT
#2474
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Flaccid
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
8917 Posts
June 29 2015 14:32 GMT
#2475
On June 29 2015 06:32 QuanticHawk wrote:
Yeah definitely agree about their defense. And they traded Petry who was one of the few good ones they had haha.


Best puck-moving defensemen the Oilers have had in recent years: Petry and Gilbert. Sup, Montreal.

No idea what to think about the Reinhart trade. Would have been easier to swallow had the Bruins not gone full Tambelini and picked a series of wtf ahead of 16. Left some very good players available. Oh well, Reinhart was an absolute beast in the WHL and has much more potential than any of the Oilers' other over 20 6th/7th defensemen. You just hope he's a normal defenseman taking the normal amount of time to develop, not a peak-early kind of guy. You hope he's more Larsson and less Luke Schenn.

Gotta love the Bruins though: "We had the opportunity to improve the team more, but spite."


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FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6184 Posts
June 29 2015 19:24 GMT
#2476
yeahI didn't knew Petry before he arrive in MTL and dam... How the hell a team can trade this guy away !!

I'm really glad we did sign him for a while
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32152 Posts
June 29 2015 21:02 GMT
#2477
On June 29 2015 23:32 Flaccid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2015 06:32 QuanticHawk wrote:
Yeah definitely agree about their defense. And they traded Petry who was one of the few good ones they had haha.


Best puck-moving defensemen the Oilers have had in recent years: Petry and Gilbert. Sup, Montreal.

No idea what to think about the Reinhart trade. Would have been easier to swallow had the Bruins not gone full Tambelini and picked a series of wtf ahead of 16. Left some very good players available. Oh well, Reinhart was an absolute beast in the WHL and has much more potential than any of the Oilers' other over 20 6th/7th defensemen. You just hope he's a normal defenseman taking the normal amount of time to develop, not a peak-early kind of guy. You hope he's more Larsson and less Luke Schenn.

Gotta love the Bruins though: "We had the opportunity to improve the team more, but spite."



tbh I've not seen much of him, and when I've seen him play I've not noticed him a ton. That tends to be more good than bad for defenders.

all of the things happening right now:

Lindros got fucking jobbed for the HHOF again
Boston continues to circle the toilet, acquiring Rinaldo for a third for some baffling reason
The Kings apparently just tried to 86 Mike Richard's contract saying he breached something.
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Flaccid
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
8917 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-29 22:18:53
June 29 2015 21:30 GMT
#2478
My god this headline: http://www.stanleycupofchowder.com/2015/6/29/8863519/zac-rinaldo-acquired-by-don-sweeney-for-our-next-gms-2017-3rd-round

Hahahahaha.

The Lindros spite is getting out of hand. He was a dominant player who changed the game for the period at which he was at his peak. And I can't see that move by the Kings holding up unless it is something pretty obvious. Material breach for being fat? I hope not.

edit: There are reports that LA was working on trading Richards at the draft and had some interested parties but immediately broke off talks and informed the teams in question once the details resulting in the breach were learned. Lombardi had no prior knowledge of it, whatever it is. Juicy.
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Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6660 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-29 21:44:06
June 29 2015 21:42 GMT
#2479
On June 30 2015 06:30 Flaccid wrote:
My god this headline: http://www.stanleycupofchowder.com/2015/6/29/8863519/zac-rinaldo-acquired-by-don-sweeney-for-our-next-gms-2017-3rd-round

Hahahahaha.

The Lindros spite is getting out of hand. He was a dominant player who changed the game for the period at which he was at his peak. And I can't see that move by the Kings holding up unless it is something pretty obvious. Material breach for being fat? I hope not.

Best quote of that article "Seriously, Zac Rinaldo makes Shawn Thornton and Gregory Campbell look like competent, disciplined hockey hockey players."

Oh man watching the Bruins implode this off season realllyyy makes me hyped for this season. Is it October yet?

I wonder if teams are just going to start flooding Boston with crappy trade offers. They look like they have no clue wtf they are doing at this point and might be easily taken advantage of.
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sharkeyanti
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States1273 Posts
June 29 2015 22:19 GMT
#2480
i actually thought an article linking to Rinaldo being traded was a joke. It's hard to express how bad at hockey Rinaldo is; I watch just about every Flyers game. He did have one good skill, he was a decent skater. He just made no sense, and was bad for the team in every respect. Ron Hextall already deserves GM of the year.
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