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ShoreT
Profile Joined August 2008
United States489 Posts
January 05 2015 15:00 GMT
#5401
Honestly picking up the flag for defensive pass interference was the most justifiable of the missed calls on that play (although a very rare scenario). The Dallas player had Pettigrew's jersey six inches away from his body and they missed it.

However Dez being on the field without a helmet was the most egregious of all the missed calls for two reasons:
1.) It is a binary call to make, not a judgement call. There was really no debating what Dez did, and what he did is a penalty.
2.) It didn't happen at game speed, so it's not really understandable that the refs didn't "see" it.
Derp
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
January 05 2015 15:18 GMT
#5402
On January 05 2015 23:57 QuanticHawk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2015 12:44 tonight wrote:
On January 05 2015 12:34 ketomai wrote:
The officiating was horrible, but the Lions played like ass in the 2nd half while the Cowboys played better than ass.

This shit happens every game, seriously. That illegal hands to the face being posted can be countered with an uncalled facemask at another part of the game going the other way.

Or, on the same play:

https://vine.co/v/OdD5hWMBK2q

That Dez thing was really stupid but doesn't change the fact that the Lions choked that away.


That? That is your argument? The obvious PI picked up and the obvious hold were far more blatant. If you zoomed in on every play you could probably find something.

I could feast on your tears

I've never been so salty after a game in my entire life.
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
ZasZ.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2911 Posts
January 05 2015 15:28 GMT
#5403
It was a bad call for sure, but you know the Lions could have A) Not shanked a punt for 10 yards and/or B) Not fumbled twice trying as hard as possible to throw the game away.

I hate the Cowboys but actually found myself rooting for them yesterday because the NFL has decided they don't give a shit how many times Lions players try to intentionally injure opponents. I guess something something karma.

I feel bad for Megatron though. Love that dude.
Lost My Will To Live
Profile Joined October 2014
Botswana601 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-05 17:28:24
January 05 2015 17:27 GMT
#5404
On January 05 2015 18:16 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2015 12:50 ketomai wrote:
On January 05 2015 12:44 tonight wrote:
On January 05 2015 12:34 ketomai wrote:
The officiating was horrible, but the Lions played like ass in the 2nd half while the Cowboys played better than ass.

This shit happens every game, seriously. That illegal hands to the face being posted can be countered with an uncalled facemask at another part of the game going the other way.

Or, on the same play:

https://vine.co/v/OdD5hWMBK2q

That Dez thing was really stupid but doesn't change the fact that the Lions choked that away.


That? That is your argument? The obvious PI picked up and the obvious hold were far more blatant. If you zoomed in on every play you could probably find something.


That's the same play as the PI, and why he committed the PI (because he couldn't turn around to see/make a play or do anything but run into the guy in front of him who stopped).

I'm not arguing anything except people are blowing things out of proportion. If the Lions were actually playing well or at least DIDN'T 10 YARD PUNT GIVING THE EASIEST TOUCHDOWN EVER, they would have won regardless.

Maybe, but the Cowboys weren't playing well either. That's why I don't buy "Don't blame the refs, there's more they could've done" in this instance. The Cowboys were fucking up just as much as the Lions, except they had a ridiculous edge from the refs.

That play had 4 freaking obvious penalties on it. Defensive holdng, DPI, Unsportsmanlike conduct, Entering the field without a helmet during a non-TO. They could've called any of those 4, and they didn't. Even if you want to call OPI on the incidental facemask, then it's offsetting penalties and they replay the down.

Hell, here was Calvin Johnson on Detroit's last possession.

Is that not blatant illegal contact past 5 yards? I'm sorry, but the refs truly fucked up this game and completely changed it at the end.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ ala Kings/Lakers early 2000s in the NBA. The fix is on friends.
I am who you think I am
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
January 05 2015 18:12 GMT
#5405
LOL

I'm a Cowboys hater and think what happened yesterday was terrible, but if the fix was in, Suh never would have been reinstated after his "my feet were cold" excuse.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
URfavHO
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States514 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-05 18:31:34
January 05 2015 18:30 GMT
#5406
EARTH CITY, Mo. -- A little less than a year ago, news broke that St. Louis Rams owner Stan Kroenke had purchased a 60-acre plot of land in Inglewood, California, a plot of land surrounded by a larger plot where a grand NFL development could begin.
source

always good leverage as an owner to have. hope LA can get one of its teams back.
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
January 05 2015 19:04 GMT
#5407
The refs weren't the biggest advantage the Cowboys had. It was 4th down. Caldwell punted. Garrett went for it. We have all the numbers in the world now and people are still stupid.
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
January 05 2015 19:08 GMT
#5408
On January 06 2015 04:04 andrewlt wrote:
The refs weren't the biggest advantage the Cowboys had. It was 4th down. Caldwell punted. Garrett went for it. We have all the numbers in the world now and people are still stupid.

I agree with that too. Caldwell was ridiculed in this thread yesterday, but that doesn't excuse the refereeing charades.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-05 20:47:45
January 05 2015 20:47 GMT
#5409
On January 06 2015 03:12 AgentW wrote:
LOL

I'm a Cowboys hater and think what happened yesterday was terrible, but if the fix was in, Suh never would have been reinstated after his "my feet were cold" excuse.

Suh was reinstated because he was no longer a 'repeat offender', since it had been over 32 week since his previous suspension. That's the only reason he got off, and it's built into the NFL's rules. Suh ad Raiola are assholes, but it should have been overturned because of that - Suh was, at the time, a "one-time offender."

Lions fans are used to saying we didn't play well enough to win (which is a dumbass platitude in the first place.) But I refuse to say it about last night. This is, and probably will be the saltiest I'll ever be about a Michigan sports call, because I don't think the Cowboys earned it any more than Detroit did. Re-watching the last 3 drives, it's just ridiculous what Dallas is getting away with. It's not just the usual offensive holding, it's defensive holding, it's offsides, it's illegal contact.

Watch the end of the game again, and look at the shit Calvin and Ansah are going through.

NFL fans can mock Lions fans all they want, but I have never seen the refs steal a game like this since the Donaghy-era Lakers.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-05 20:53:09
January 05 2015 20:52 GMT
#5410
NFL head of officiating Dean Blandino isn’t trying to sugarcoat the key call that went against the Lions in Sunday’s loss to the Cowboys.

Blandino, appearing on PFT Live, told Mike Florio that Cowboys linebacker Anthony Hitchens did get away with a penalty on the Lions’ fourth-quarter pass to Brandon Pettigrew. But Blandino said the missed call that troubled him most was not the pass interference flag that was originally thrown but later picked up.

-b=According to Blandino, the clear penalty Hitchens got away with was defensive holding: Hitchens grabbed Pettigrew’s jersey while Pettigrew was running his route, and Blandino said that should have been called. If it had been, it would have given the Lions an automatic first down.

Blandino said the pass interference penalty that one official flagged, only to get overruled by another official, was a “close call that could have went either way.” Blandino acknowledged that the officials should have done a better job of communicating, first among themselves so that they could get the call right, and then after referee Pete Morelli turned on his microphone to announce the penalty. Morelli first announced pass interference, then later announced that the pass interference penalty would not be enforced — but that second announcement was so hasty that the FOX broadcast missed it.

Although some observers have suggested that Pettigrew also should have been flagged for facemasking Hitchens, Blandino says that’s not the case.

“I felt that was minimal contact,” Blandino said of Pettigrew’s contact with Hitchens’s facemask.


Cowboys receiver Dez Bryant ran onto the field to argue the pass interference call, and Blandino said Bryant could have been flagged for that. Blandino said running on the field to argue with an official is “not an automatic penalty,” but he added that “I certainly would have supported a call for unsportsmanlike conduct.”

Ultimately, Blandino admits, if all of the elements of that play had been called correctly, the Lions would have had a first down. Instead the Lions had a fourth down, shanked a punt, and gave up the game-winning touchdown on the subsequent drive. The Lions will be left to wonder what might have happened if that penalty on Hitchens had been called.
[/b]

This is the Head of Officials who was caught on video on the Cowboys' party bus.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/01/05/dean-blandino-acknowledges-cowboys-got-away-with-one/
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18857 Posts
January 05 2015 21:03 GMT
#5411
Sometimes the radical in me wishes that enough NFL fans could get pissed, in an organized fashion, so as to force the hand of the league in firing some people or at least conducting a transparent review process. I don't think its that hard to see that at least one if not multiple NFL employees fucked up in supreme fashion yesterday, and their "mistakes" played an integral role in the outcome of a playoff game of all things. This milly moggling bullshit coming out of the "head of officiating" just doesn't cut it for me and dare I say it a large number of both Lions fans and those that are simply interested in the NFL getting its head out of its ass agree.

"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51589 Posts
January 06 2015 02:44 GMT
#5412


greg roman LOL
Commentator
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
January 06 2015 03:01 GMT
#5413
On January 06 2015 11:44 GTR wrote:
https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/552283268230705153

greg roman LOL

Hahaha, this is why the Bills are a perennial loser franchise.
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-06 03:53:43
January 06 2015 03:53 GMT
#5414
We are the worst
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
BloodNinja
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2791 Posts
January 06 2015 04:00 GMT
#5415
On January 05 2015 23:57 QuanticHawk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2015 12:44 tonight wrote:
On January 05 2015 12:34 ketomai wrote:
The officiating was horrible, but the Lions played like ass in the 2nd half while the Cowboys played better than ass.

This shit happens every game, seriously. That illegal hands to the face being posted can be countered with an uncalled facemask at another part of the game going the other way.

Or, on the same play:

https://vine.co/v/OdD5hWMBK2q

That Dez thing was really stupid but doesn't change the fact that the Lions choked that away.


That? That is your argument? The obvious PI picked up and the obvious hold were far more blatant. If you zoomed in on every play you could probably find something.

I could feast on your tears


Between tonight and Jibba you could be fed for years! YEARS!
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
January 06 2015 10:15 GMT
#5416
On January 06 2015 02:27 Lost My Will To Live wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2015 18:16 Jibba wrote:
On January 05 2015 12:50 ketomai wrote:
On January 05 2015 12:44 tonight wrote:
On January 05 2015 12:34 ketomai wrote:
The officiating was horrible, but the Lions played like ass in the 2nd half while the Cowboys played better than ass.

This shit happens every game, seriously. That illegal hands to the face being posted can be countered with an uncalled facemask at another part of the game going the other way.

Or, on the same play:

https://vine.co/v/OdD5hWMBK2q

That Dez thing was really stupid but doesn't change the fact that the Lions choked that away.


That? That is your argument? The obvious PI picked up and the obvious hold were far more blatant. If you zoomed in on every play you could probably find something.


That's the same play as the PI, and why he committed the PI (because he couldn't turn around to see/make a play or do anything but run into the guy in front of him who stopped).

I'm not arguing anything except people are blowing things out of proportion. If the Lions were actually playing well or at least DIDN'T 10 YARD PUNT GIVING THE EASIEST TOUCHDOWN EVER, they would have won regardless.

Maybe, but the Cowboys weren't playing well either. That's why I don't buy "Don't blame the refs, there's more they could've done" in this instance. The Cowboys were fucking up just as much as the Lions, except they had a ridiculous edge from the refs.

That play had 4 freaking obvious penalties on it. Defensive holdng, DPI, Unsportsmanlike conduct, Entering the field without a helmet during a non-TO. They could've called any of those 4, and they didn't. Even if you want to call OPI on the incidental facemask, then it's offsetting penalties and they replay the down.

Hell, here was Calvin Johnson on Detroit's last possession.

Is that not blatant illegal contact past 5 yards? I'm sorry, but the refs truly fucked up this game and completely changed it at the end.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ ala Kings/Lakers early 2000s in the NBA. The fix is on friends.

As a Lions and Kings fan (odd combination I know) I definitely have some similar feelings!
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32132 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-06 13:01:42
January 06 2015 13:01 GMT
#5417
On January 06 2015 11:44 GTR wrote:
https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/552283268230705153

greg roman LOL

jesus lol
isnt shurmur the really shitty browns coach from a couple years back too
also why the fuck is roman not fired yet
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Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
January 06 2015 13:02 GMT
#5418
To be fair I don't think any coach will look good in Cleveland.
Hey do you want to hear a joke? Chinese production value. | I thought he had a aegis- Ayesee | When did 7ing mad last have a good game, 2012?
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51589 Posts
January 06 2015 16:05 GMT
#5419
well, belichick did make the playoffs with the browns...
Commentator
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
January 06 2015 16:21 GMT
#5420
I remember Shurmur being particularly shitty though. He called games too conservatively, like he was the one with a better team.
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