yeah as Andrew said, he was pretty bad even as far as those low standards. It's prettybad when you can only last two seasons there.

He's suddenly a candidate again just simply by virtue of having hitched his wagon to Chip Kelly and his offense.

AgentW

United States7725 Posts

January 06 2015 17:04 GMT

#5422

Didn't Haslem buy the team and/or Holmgren get fired/leave town which caused Shumur to be fired? If I have that right, I don't think it's fair to hold it against Shumur (though we have plenty of other things to hold against him).

Shellshock

United States97276 Posts

January 06 2015 21:25 GMT

#5423

How far does Dorial Green-Beckham fall with his off the field issues and sitting out this season? As far as I know he was widely considered a top 10 or top 5 pick prior to all the shit that went down.

GTR

51589 Posts

January 07 2015 00:49 GMT

#5424

Hmm, maybe top of the second round? Think something like a Janoris Jenkins drop off.
He's just too talented not to be snatched up early.

AgentW

United States7725 Posts

January 07 2015 00:54 GMT

#5425

Was he the DE that McShay had at like 3rd on his board?

Shellshock

United States97276 Posts

January 07 2015 01:05 GMT

#5426

DGB is a WR originally out of Mizzou but transferred to Oklahoma after he got kicked off the team. I just see people guessing anywhere from late 1st to down in the 6th or 7th which seems ridiculous to me so I was just curious what you guys thought.

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=123220&draftyear=2016&genpos=WR
6'6"
225 lbs
4.49 40 time
loads of off the field issues

The DE from Mizzou is Shane Ray if that's what you're thinking of. He's supposed to be the #1 pass rusher on the board from what I understand. SEC Defensive POTY

AgentW

United States7725 Posts

January 07 2015 01:10 GMT

#5427

That's the guy! I had never heard of him but I didn't catch any Mizzou games this year. McShay had him at 3 but I can't get the rat of his rankings without Insider.

GTR

51589 Posts

January 07 2015 01:11 GMT

#5428

#1 pass rusher? no way. randy gregory is so much better than ray.

Shellshock

United States97276 Posts

January 07 2015 01:13 GMT

#5429

idk maybe I got them confused. I haven't been able to watch nearly as much football this year so I'm just kind of going off what the talking heads have been saying when I've caught it which as far as quality goes can be up for debate most of the time. I just know the Redskins have been mocked to take either Shane Ray or the Iowa or ND OT in the few mocks I've looked at.

I bet what happened was I read he was "best pass rusher available" by the times the Redskins picked and accidentally remembered it as #1

GTR

51589 Posts

January 07 2015 01:15 GMT

#5430

Skins shouldn't take a pass rusher. They have Orakpo, Kerrigan and Murphy already. They need to protect RG3 so taking Peat, Scherff or Stanley (if he declares) would be the best option.

Shellshock

United States97276 Posts

January 07 2015 01:19 GMT

#5431

I agree. I think we're taking offensive line. It doesn't matter who we have playing QB if he has no protection and the oline outside of Trent Williams is pretty much terrible. For some reason I thought that I saw Ronnie Stanley had already declared but I guess my memory is just getting terrible these days.

I'm pretty happy with our new gm hire. This will mean we won't do something like trade up for Jameis if he declares and I can relax a little more about it

Souma

2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts

January 07 2015 01:56 GMT

#5432

Is RG3 even gonna be there next season?

Shellshock

United States97276 Posts

January 07 2015 02:00 GMT

#5433

yeah afaik they're keeping him for next year

I think all 3 of RG3, Cousins, and McCoy are supposed to be back so it'll just be more of a side show. Kind of feel bad for RG3. He'd have a better chance of reviving his career on some other teams.

Gryffindor_us

United States5606 Posts

January 07 2015 03:13 GMT

#5434

instead of predictions, which are boring. What is everyone's ideal result this weekend?

For me:

BAL < NE
IND > DEN (self explanatory as a Pats fan)
DAL > GB (I want DAL to not be a joke for some reason.)
CAR > SEA (honestly just because SEA is so dangerous, not because I dislike them.)

NE > IND
DAL > CAR

NE > DAL

Souma

2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts

January 07 2015 03:19 GMT

#5435

BAL > NE
IND < DEN
DAL < GB
CAR < SEA

BAL < DEN
GB > SEA

DEN > GB

GB > * for five years in a row after (except for one year where the Chargers finally win the Super Bowl).

HeadlessWonder

United States1096 Posts

January 07 2015 03:47 GMT

#5436

BAL > NE
IND < DEN
DAL < GB (I guess, either way is fine with me)
CAR > SEA (This is the only one I REALLY care about)

iNcontroL

USA29055 Posts

January 07 2015 04:17 GMT

#5437

so funny seeing you guys predict the seahawks to lose again

AgentW

United States7725 Posts

January 07 2015 04:22 GMT

#5438

On January 07 2015 12:13 Gryffindor_us wrote:
instead of predictions, which are boring. What is everyone's ideal result this weekend?

red_

United States8474 Posts

January 07 2015 04:41 GMT

#5439

NE>BAL
DEN>IND
SEA>CAR
Don't care GB/DAL

DEN>NE
SEA>*

DEN>SEA

That way Peyton can win and retire, and the two fanbases I currently dislike most can shut up.

BloodNinja

United States2791 Posts

January 07 2015 04:47 GMT

#5440

On January 07 2015 10:15 GTR wrote:
Skins shouldn't take a pass rusher. They have Orakpo, Kerrigan and Murphy already. They need to protect RG3 so taking Peat, Scherff or Stanley (if he declares) would be the best option.

Orakpo is likely gone next season, imo. Jim Haslett was apparently a large force in getting him franchise tagged this year that was basically a "show me why you should be paid the big bucks" contract. With him getting injured and Haslett fired, I think the Skins let him walk into FA and let someone else throw a big contract at him.

That said, I agree they arent taking a pass rusher with their first pick.

On January 07 2015 11:00 Shellshock wrote:
yeah afaik they're keeping him for next year

I think all 3 of RG3, Cousins, and McCoy are supposed to be back so it'll just be more of a side show. Kind of feel bad for RG3. He'd have a better chance of reviving his career on some other teams.

The only reason RG3 will be back is the cap hit the Skins take if they offload him. Cutting him would be ~6.3 million in dead cap money and unlike some of the other bad teams this year like Jax and Oak, the Skins aren't swimming in loads of extra cap space going into next year. If they found someone who wanted to trade for RG3 that number gets cut in half, but I am not sure anyone is going to be making that trade.