EPTAs far FFMI... eh. I came in at a 20.2 (lol skinny) and to be a 25.4 I'd have to weigh almost 240 at 10% which is significantly bigger than I ever expect to be.
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phyre112
United States3090 Posts
As far FFMI... eh. I came in at a 20.2 (lol skinny) and to be a 25.4 I'd have to weigh almost 240 at 10% which is significantly bigger than I ever expect to be. | ||
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GoTuNk!
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IgnE
United States7681 Posts
On April 03 2014 12:48 GoTuNk! wrote: Checked it. German Goernner (6 1, 250-290 pounds, visible abs), while not wrestling elephants, believes FFMI is bullshit though (and Igne) ![[image loading]](http://img.breakingmuscle.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/full_width/images/bydate/20130926/goernerandelephant.jpg) I'm sure crossfiters are juiced to grills though. They compete on untested meets and get 40k for first prize right? He might be missing a myostatin gene. More common in German populations. | ||
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n.DieJokes
United States3443 Posts
These are dumb, its like no one even cares about statistics. None I found address the natural fluctuation of the bodies weight over the course of the day, before and after meals, etc. A lot of these papers I found that tried to measure bf with simple measurements (including the most cited one from 30 years ago -.-) did so by extrapolating from a "true" data set whose bf's were calculated from BMI instead of water weighing or scans. Anyway, depending on which retarded way I tried to measure my bf% my FFMI is either 24.6 at 8% (lol this is so fucking stupid) or 22.2 at 16%. Oh well, I'm sure those guys know quite a but about roids but trying to argue based on FFMI with parameters they're just guessing at for a metric that is notoriously misread and misreported based off other guessed FFMI's from the 1950's when nutrition and muscle building were far less understood is just silly. I'd bet every single one in the top ten at the CrossFit games has used PED's but not because of that article | ||
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IgnE
United States7681 Posts
There's a pretty big difference between 8 and 16%. | ||
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NeedsmoreCELLTECH
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Xypski
Denmark156 Posts
On March 31 2014 18:49 zatic wrote: So I switched from only high bar to a front squat / low bar combination a while ago. I really wanted to do front squats and I felt together with high bar my squatting would become too quad heavy. Unfortunately now I am running into the same issue that made me stop doing low bar 2 years ago: I get this insane pain in both of my arms. Basically my entire arm hurts, with intense spots just below the elbow and below the shoulder. It's so bad I can't do any push or pulling after, and keeps hurting for several days. I have really no idea what the hell I am doing wrong. I take so much care to not ever hold the bar with my hands. I believe I have a very good overall setup and I feel very confident about squatting in general. But still my arms get this stupid pain at weights 90kg and more. Lower weights or high bar at any weight and I have zero problems. Any ideas? Is there something like a nerve in the shoulder than I might press on with the bar that could cause this pain? ¨ Hey, Have you tried squatting with a monkey grip (thumbs on the same side as your other fingers)? It helped me a lot. | ||
zatic
Zurich15355 Posts
On April 03 2014 18:21 Xypski wrote: ¨ Hey, Have you tried squatting with a monkey grip (thumbs on the same side as your other fingers)? It helped me a lot. Yeah, always have. I tried using a wider grip, which has worked in terms of no arm pain anymore - however now I am losing upper back tightness and default into squatmornings on heavier sets. It's a bitch  But as long as there is no pain I can at least work on it. Also introduced incline and close grip bench to help my bench progress. Hopefully 95kg tomorrow, getting really close to 100kg! | ||
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phyre112
United States3090 Posts
On April 03 2014 14:38 n.DieJokes wrote: How is anyone getting an accurate bf measurement? Looking around on google scholar and the internet, it looks like the only one's that are even remotely accurate are water weighing or getting a scan both of which can't be done at home. I can not find a single do it yourself test that can guarantee even +/-4 accuracy. Most of the ones I found on google were either totally inaccurate (lol one sample skin density measuring, lol extrapolate from bmi, lol just look at the chart and trust your instincts) or uncitied junk and all of them lacked any sort of consideration of variance or error bounds. Visual estimates of people who know what they're talking about are probably more accurate than any home test. I've had a couple of air displacement tests and one underwater weighing test when I was in college (exercise science minor FTW) and they all came out to just about what visual estimates did. On April 03 2014 14:38 n.DieJokes wrote: These are dumb, its like no one even cares about statistics. None I found address the natural fluctuation of the bodies weight over the course of the day, before and after meals, etc. A lot of these papers I found that tried to measure bf with simple measurements (including the most cited one from 30 years ago -.-) did so by extrapolating from a "true" data set whose bf's were calculated from BMI instead of water weighing or scans. Anyway, depending on which retarded way I tried to measure my bf% my FFMI is either 24.6 at 8% (lol this is so fucking stupid) or 22.2 at 16%. Oh well, I'm sure those guys know quite a but about roids but trying to argue based on FFMI with parameters they're just guessing at for a metric that is notoriously misread and misreported based off other guessed FFMI's from the 1950's when nutrition and muscle building were far less understood is just silly. I'd bet every single one in the top ten at the CrossFit games has used PED's but not because of that article Bodybuilding was still bigger as a professional sport at the time, so despite what the guys doing it did or did not understand, what they achieved is pretty impressive. Besides, these were guys that were training specifically for mass and crossfitters of today aren't - in fact, after a point mass is a bad thing in their sport. But regardless, unless I'm misreading you I think you're taking the article a little bit too seriously. On April 03 2014 18:27 zatic wrote: Yeah, always have. I tried using a wider grip, which has worked in terms of no arm pain anymore - however now I am losing upper back tightness and default into squatmornings on heavier sets. It's a bitch But as long as there is no pain I can at least work on it. Also introduced incline and close grip bench to help my bench progress. Hopefully 95kg tomorrow, getting really close to 100kg! How far on top of the bar are your hands? I remember a chaos and bang podcast where jamie described what sounds like the same problem when he changed up his squat style (moved the bar lower on his back and widened his stance). Horrible knotting and cramping in his brachioradialis and to a lesser extent the muscles of the upper arm. IIRC it was fixed in the short term by a very rough massage (I'm sure a golf ball would work just as well) and in the longer term by rolling the hands forward on the bar, so that instead of the fingers on top and the palms on the side, it was morel ike fingers in the front, palms on top, and heel of the hand on the side, if you get what I mean. Obviously not something I have experience with, but maybe worth trying. If you were pressing on a nerve, you would probably get more of a numb position than a pain, like when your leg falls asleep. And squat mornings suck. | ||
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Topin
Peru10093 Posts
On March 27 2014 23:40 Topin wrote: week 2: another week... not visible results yet. about diet: getting used to the deficit (1500 aprox) im eating more fruits in the nights. boiled eggs almost every day, meat/fish and veggies for protein. for carbs i mainly go for potatos, trying to avoid rice b/c of the calories in comparison. if i want to feel full broccoli man, that shit is massive and almost no calories. about gym: time of recovery longer, i feel tired more time after every session. cant add more weight so im trying to maintain my currents lifts. personal victory: dips 3x5 completed =D mind: im getting tired and having doubts. week 3: down 2.5kg aprox....78kg now aprox diet: same thing. not taking breakfast. having a light lunch and eating to complete my calories intake at night. still at 1500 gym: barely keeping my lifts. changed my grip to mixed in DL and scored a PR 180kg i dont think im going to add weight. mind: hard to keep motivated T_T | ||
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Lemonayd
United States745 Posts
The pain is definitely not as intense as it was two weeks ago, but I'm looking to start lifting again next week. I really hope everything is feeling ok by then. I've been taking 600 mg ibprofen for the pain and also using icy hot balm. I try to expose my neck for an extended period of time to hot water while in the shower every morning and also try to sleep with a heating pad. Does anybody have any recommendations for what else I can do to help my neck recover? Whenever I tilt my head to far it just hurts | ||
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farvacola
United States18839 Posts
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GoTuNk!
Chile4591 Posts
On April 04 2014 01:07 Lemonayd wrote: I'm currently on my second week of no lifting due to a neck injury. I believe I strained it doing deadlifts The pain is definitely not as intense as it was two weeks ago, but I'm looking to start lifting again next week. I really hope everything is feeling ok by then. I've been taking 600 mg ibprofen for the pain and also using icy hot balm. I try to expose my neck for an extended period of time to hot water while in the shower every morning and also try to sleep with a heating pad. Does anybody have any recommendations for what else I can do to help my neck recover? Whenever I tilt my head to far it just hurts Hope I don't come as an asshole, as I don't know how much ur neck hurts, but you should always try to train around injuries, not quit lifting whenever something hurts. Even doing tricep pushdowns, curls, walking and leg raises is better than nothing and would help you recover faster. Not sure if you can retract your shoulders/shrug painlessly, if you can squat/bench aswell. I'd stay away from stuff like deadlift/pull ups that really strain the neck muscles. Take this into consideration for future injuries  | ||
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decafchicken
United States20078 Posts
Oh yeah went to doctor today. Lolz at my BMI. Doc: "BMI is stupid, BF% is a better indicator, looking at you feel free to eat whatever and weigh whatever you want to" I think i found the right doc :D Curious to see what my bloodwork and liver check look like haha | ||
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Jerubaal
United States7684 Posts
On April 03 2014 13:00 GoTuNk! wrote: Yeah prolly. Also seems Khalippa seems to be testing the new drugs, plus after watching him squat like a retard there is no way he is so strong naturally :p Are you referring to the ElgIntensity video? :p | ||
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autoexec
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hjhy
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mordek
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decafchicken
United States20078 Posts
On April 04 2014 22:08 hjhy wrote: has anyone tried the hookgrip knee sleeves? My rehbands are getting too small (weight gain) and I was thinking of getting something larger (and cheaper :D although i'd stick with rehbands if they're better) I plan on getting a pair when they're back in stock and probably use them for olympic lifting and my rehbands for squatting so i don't have to carry my sweaty knee sleeves between two gyms. | ||
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