EPTTeamliquid Health and Fitness Initiative for 2014 - Page 15
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Najda
United States3765 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On January 24 2014 01:50 decafchicken wrote: Just saw this article on FB: http://www.mindbodygreen.com/0-12360/what-losing-100-pounds-taught-me-about-how-we-treat-overweight-people.html This girl is somehow surprised and offended that people treat people that are in shape nicer than those out of shape. Well duh, if you're in shape I assume you to some degree respect yourself, take care of your body, and make good decisions regarding your body, health, and image. That's not to say I'm mean to overweight people or not friends with them, but getting in shape goes a long way towards improving your first impression on people. And don't even get me started on the fact this girl actually went on a juicing/vegetarian diet. This so very very much. The world isn't fattist, it's just pro-looking-after-the-one-goddamn-body-you'll-get-in-this-lifetime | ||
zatic
Zurich15364 Posts
In general, people treat fit people better because they are more attractive, not because they show "self respect and ability to good decision". Same reason we treat tall or pretty people better. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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tofucake
Hyrule19196 Posts
there have been plenty of times where being morbidly obese was considered attractive because it meant you didn't have to do manual labor and/or could pay people to do shit for you | ||
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
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decafchicken
United States20154 Posts
On January 24 2014 04:47 tofucake wrote: because media says so there have been plenty of times where being morbidly obese was considered attractive because it meant you didn't have to do manual labor and/or could pay people to do shit for you I feel like it all goes back to survival of the fittest and reproduction and shit. Being fat was a sign of money and power = good for reproduction. Now it's a sign of laziness and that you're going to have health problems down the road. | ||
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MtlGuitarist97
United States1539 Posts
I think it's more of an issue with our society though. People tend to place a bigger emphasis on superficiality and appearance than on how someone performs or what they have to offer. Anyway, I think that the biggest issue with being fat is not the health, energy, weight, or appearance. I actually think the biggest problem with being overweight is that it makes people depressed. I live with my sort of family (my mom, her boyfriend, my brother and his son) all of whom are obese and I'd say that they all suffer from at least some kind of depression from it a lot of the time. I think that the media certainly doesn't help it, but it just creates this bad cycle of stress ---> don't have energy ---> eat bad food to get rid of stress ---> be depressed about being fat and not being able to do anything about it. Not everyone fits that mold, but a lot of the overweight people I've met do. | ||
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NbSky
Canada1023 Posts
On January 24 2014 04:26 marvellosity wrote: But why do people prefer fit/muscular bodies in the first place? Yeah the media says so, but at the end of the day, it is the healthier choice. By doing exercise and eating healthy you already are taking care of your body. In most cases if you just take care of yourself, eat proper and do normal exercise you will be fit/muscular. I don't see why anyone wouldn't want improved strength, health, energy. We are only given one body, might as well take care of it. On top of that, I find that people who are in shape and are motivated/determined also run the less chance of injury. Look at multiple examples of how someone who is fit and exercises has recovered from seriously injury in 1/2 and sometimes even 1/4. Russel Westbrook of OKC from NBA and Steven Stamkos from NHL are two great examples. | ||
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FFGenerations
7088 Posts
just imagine going for like 10 years without anyone ever showing any interest in you whatsoever, no compliments, no one really listening to you or ever laughing at anything you say or trying to touch you or ask you a question ever about yourself or want to spend time with you then suddenly you have people expressing keen interest in you as a person all day, complimenting you, asking you questions, laughing at what you say, bright-eyed and trying to impress you or get your attention thats pretty much the difference between being goodlooking or being ugly the difference in day-to-day living can be fucking immense (of course all people equally have life as hard as one another, since everyone develops their own standards of happiness and issues, but for an ugly person to experience life as an attractive person it is a pretty crazy difference) | ||
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decafchicken
United States20154 Posts
On January 24 2014 07:07 FFGenerations wrote: the difference in how people treat you is pretty shocking to someone who's never been attractive before when they suddenly experience what its like to be attractive just imagine going for like 10 years without anyone ever showing any interest in you whatsoever, no compliments, no one really listening to you or ever laughing at anything you say or trying to touch you or ask you a question ever about yourself or want to spend time with you then suddenly you have people expressing keen interest in you as a person all day, complimenting you, asking you questions, laughing at what you say, bright-eyed and trying to impress you or get your attention thats pretty much the difference between being goodlooking or being ugly the difference in day-to-day living can be fucking immense (of course all people equally have life as hard as one another, since everyone develops their own standards of happiness and issues, but for an ugly person to experience life as an attractive person it is a pretty crazy difference) That's pretty much what happened to me when I went to college. Maybe I should write an article about how society conditioned girls to not like me in grade school. | ||
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Ahzz
Finland780 Posts
Yes, we think a certain way. Yes, we are conditioned to think as we do, and naturally we perceive some things as 'normal' which in turn, we are often attracted to. However, is this ultimately for the best? Wouldn't it really be better if we could be totally indifferent regardless what the other person looks like as long as it only affects the person in question and nobody else? Could we try to change the way society views people to focus completely on personality and not so much about looks? Honestly though, say what all these 'biggest losers' will, they often don't take to account that just maybe they also act different now that they are fit. Maybe they are more confident and thus way more sexy after losing weight. And I for one also admit that I rarely get attracted to overweight people because I feel that they don't have the level of control for their bodies that I feel is reasonable. They have unhealthy habits that they simply neglect and don't CARE to fix. And that is not sexy at all imo. of course other people prioritize their life and activities different. Similar to how many don't care to work out or do sport for one bit and stay super skinny for life. That is also neglecting your health, which I find unattractive, but I must admit, less so than being overweight. | ||
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
On January 23 2014 14:49 Shelke14 wrote: How old are you? Getting all the proteins and vitamins? I have the exact same problem with sleep I don't get really good straight through sleeps but I switched beds and it has helped my days go better. Edit: major one is how your body and head line up while sleeping. How many pillows do you have, I switched from two to just resting my head on a flatter single pillow to keep my head more aligned with my body. Before when I tried to sleep with my head tiled upwards slightly because I was using two, it made me feel restless and sore the next day. Just something to think about. 24 haha Nutrition has been a bit spotty lately due to a busy work schedule (could easily not eat until 5-6PM if I'm busy) but trying to eat enough. I have a multivitamin pill every once in a while although probably not often enough lol For sleep, I use a single flat pillow and try to keep my neck neutral while I sleep so I think we're in agreement there. | ||
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autoexec
United States530 Posts
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Flik
Canada256 Posts
. Trying not to eat any bread. | ||
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AnachronisticAnarchy
United States2957 Posts
On January 24 2014 09:33 Flik wrote: Hey Im on a IIFYM diet. Lost a few pounds so far. Last few days Ive really started looking at all the food Im taking in with the MyFitnessPal app. Turns out Im cutting myself short on carbs a little bit and a few grams a fibre. Is this a huge deal? What can or should I eat to make up for about 5-10grams of fiber and 40g of carbs? Veggies? Turns out all the deep green vegetables ive been eating dont have as much fiber as I thought . Trying not to eat any bread.What's the problem with bread? I see people swear by it and against it until their faces turn blue but I still don't know why either side is so damn passionate about the issue. | ||
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autoexec
United States530 Posts
MWF: Bench Squat Clean TT: Deadlift OHP Front Squat And of course I would be doing other dumbbell and accessory work with it, but those are the main things. Maybe I should put a break there one day and work out on Saturday instead? | ||
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FFGenerations
7088 Posts
autoexec WTF just try it until u start taking random days off why dont u just have 1 day rest between each or every other day my split CURRENTLY is (approx - extra skip days!) bench, squat, abs, run off pullup, power clean, curls, run off ohp, deadlift, shoulder raise work, run off (barbell rows still to be slotted, probs sesh2 but not sure) i was doing day1,day2,day3,off,off, but that seems a bit dumb in retrospect (tho the shoulders love it) | ||
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MtlGuitarist97
United States1539 Posts
On January 24 2014 09:37 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote: What's the problem with bread? I see people swear by it and against it until their faces turn blue but I still don't know why either side is so damn passionate about the issue. The issue isn't necessarily bread. Whole grain bread that isn't refined or processed, while not great, is at least decent for you if you need to make a sandwich or something. White bread, on the other hand, is processed to shit, has tons of added sugar, preservatives, etc. and is just really an unnecessary source of additional carbs that the average westerner doesn't need. And @autoexec, I think you're doing too much in too little time.The lifts you want to focus on are really demanding and it just seems like too much stress with no rest in between. | ||
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AnachronisticAnarchy
United States2957 Posts
On January 24 2014 10:00 MtlGuitarist97 wrote: The issue isn't necessarily bread. Whole grain bread that isn't refined or processed, while not great, is at least decent for you if you need to make a sandwich or something. White bread, on the other hand, is processed to shit, has tons of added sugar, preservatives, etc. and is just really an unnecessary source of additional carbs that the average westerner doesn't need. And @autoexec, I think you're doing too much in too little time.The lifts you want to focus on are really demanding and it just seems like too much stress with no rest in between. So the issue is that bread is redundant if you're already eating your fruits, veggies and meats. Also wtf autoexec. There's more to fatigue than the localized muscle damage in strength exercises. Aside from the fact that you KNOW you won't be available every day for a workout, you still need some time to refill your batteries. | ||
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