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SoleSteeler
Profile Joined April 2003
Canada5427 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-24 01:24:31
January 24 2014 01:21 GMT
#301
I went from 5'11 and about 255-260 down to 180 pounds and it makes a worrrrrrrrrrrrld of difference in how confident I felt, which in turn led to how people treated me. I can't believe I ever let myself get up to that ...

Bit of a tough week after a week off sick last week. Still have some kind of sinus infection and my energy levels were low due to not eating well. Working on it, though. I did deadlifts/OHP this morning then when I went to do squats, I just... couldn't feel that energy. Did my warmup sets and felt tired in the last set. Did 2 reps at my work set and felt like I should stop. Too bad. Then some little Korean girl came up and started doing squats after me. Only 95 lbs but sets of 10, perfect form. Inspired me... but I had to go since I have to get ready for work. >_< Haha. I'll sleep and eat well this weekend and kill it on Monday, I hope!

edit: after I couldn't do squats well, I did some stretching/mobility work, specifically for golf >_< So it wasn't a waste. The other exercises were fine, too. Just when you squat down and you don't feel the energy to stand up well... it might be a good day to take a rest, I guess.
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-24 07:34:48
January 24 2014 07:34 GMT
#302
If you aren't shy, post progress pics in this thread please:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=261792

I'm excited to see naked men!
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
autoexec
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States530 Posts
January 24 2014 14:07 GMT
#303
Alright, it seems like doing the before mentioned split seems a bit too crazy. What about something like this? I have also added in accessory movements. If there are any muscle groups that conflict with each other too soon and I won't get enough rest, let me know.

Monday: Clean, Front Squat, Lunges, Calf Raises, Abs
Tuesday: Bench, OHP, Pull Ups, Dips, Upright Rows
Wednesday: Squat, Deadlift, Straight Leg Deadlift, Shrugs, Abs
Thursday: Rest
Friday: Clean, Squat, Lunges, Calf Raises, Abs
Saturday: Bench, Dips, Pull Ups, Upright Rows, Rows, Shrugs, Forearm Work, Abs
Sunday: Rest

The main lifts I'm looking to improve are my squat and clean. And this is all training for playing a sport so I guess focusing on lower body a bit more than upper body would be optimal. So what do you guys think? Most likely gonna try something like this (or whatever reccomended) out on Monday.
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-24 14:37:07
January 24 2014 14:33 GMT
#304
you can try ....

put pullups before deadlifts (same day) or you wont be able to pullup . any forearm work should followup on same day,....forearm work for me is deadlifting/more reps

deadlift before squats or alternating

you cant bench and ohp on the same day, they are both equally vital do to well on (1 day between them). no idea where your dips should be

and make the 1 rest day = 2 rest days

but if you're doing 6 days out of 10 you might aswell do 6 days out of 12 and have rest between workouts

any cardio
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mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-24 14:34:56
January 24 2014 14:34 GMT
#305
Normally you avoid squats after deadllifts since your CNS is taxed and you have a heavy weight on your back.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
January 24 2014 14:40 GMT
#306
i dont squat and dl on the same day anymore and instead can do ++deadlift reps. i think dl is pretty awesome and shouldnt have to compete with squat
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decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20020 Posts
January 24 2014 14:47 GMT
#307
My mom just sent me some article from PETA about a vegan bodybuilder. Thanks to TL, I have began study bombing and destroying my mom's beliefs lol.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
NeedsmoreCELLTECH
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Netherlands1242 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-24 15:00:31
January 24 2014 14:56 GMT
#308
On January 24 2014 09:41 autoexec wrote:
Thinking of changing my lifting routine up a bit. Do you guys think a schedule like this would be too hard on my body?

MWF:
Bench
Squat
Clean

TT:
Deadlift
OHP
Front Squat

And of course I would be doing other dumbbell and accessory work with it, but those are the main things. Maybe I should put a break there one day and work out on Saturday instead?

One day break is definately nice if it doesn't mess with your social calendar. I lift 5x a week with mostly compounds and a ton of isolation (27 sets~ per workout). I don't like deadlifting that much, I think it's too hard on your CNS. If you want a mix of strength and hypertrophy I recommend Layne Norton's PHAT as a starting template.

Also my entire life changeed since I gained 60 pounds of muscle. My self-confidence has increases dramatically, girls are super interested, all of a sudden I'm "hilarious" and invited to tons of parties etc. Life is so much better for the top 1% attractive people that I think you're mad if you don't pursue it. Social interactions become 100x easier and I think you get more leniency with academic work as well.
Get huge or die mirin | Diamond on LoL
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
January 24 2014 15:00 GMT
#309
Need help with deadlift form:



Obviously I can tell it isn't good form, but I was hoping you guys could help me isolate what the biggest problems are.
NeedsmoreCELLTECH
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Netherlands1242 Posts
January 24 2014 15:02 GMT
#310
@Najda push the bar into your shins, and keep it as close as you can to your body as possible. This should make it easier to keep your chest up as well, although you could be doing that more actively.
Get huge or die mirin | Diamond on LoL
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
January 24 2014 16:36 GMT
#311
I've found that pushing the bar into my shins wearing shorts has great potential to hurt like fuck and leave you disfigured.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
January 24 2014 16:55 GMT
#312
On January 25 2014 01:36 Osmoses wrote:
I've found that pushing the bar into my shins wearing shorts has great potential to hurt like fuck and leave you disfigured.


I learned to deadlift with shorts on, probably why I have trouble with it. Just got those pants, will have to start consciously pushing it into my shins.

Also, on some of the lifts I kind of push the bar forward over my knees on the way down, am I just lowering it in the wrong order? What's the right order.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18827 Posts
January 24 2014 17:02 GMT
#313
The pushing of the bar into the shins is more of an exaggerative idea meant to correct the frequently misunderstood importance of having the deadlift bar travel along a path as straight and aligned with ones' center of gravity as possible. In time, particularly with improved ankle and hip flexibility, one will be able to achieve this without that annoying shin scrape that so often hurts like hell.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19057 Posts
January 24 2014 17:18 GMT
#314
This is why knee socks are so popular with crossfitters
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phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
January 24 2014 19:16 GMT
#315
You're straightening your legs, THEN pulling with your back. That takes your hips/glutes out of the motion and makes you a lot weaker than you would otherwise be. Look back a couple pages and you'll se gotunk's cue about the deadlift being all about glutes, and about squeezing them through to lockout. That should help a bit. Think of the deadlift more like a hip thrust (without any hyperextension, obviously) than a lower back lever-type motion.

And IDK what ya'll are talking about, I've never scraped my shins on a deadlift, only on cleans and the one time I tried sumo Deadlifting. The bar just goes up smoothly for me, about 1/4 inch in front of my shins =x.
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
January 24 2014 19:32 GMT
#316
I had the post GoTunK made in mind while performing those deadlifts but I couldn't really feel what he meant. Should I be trying to lift it to my knees before straightening my legs?
MtlGuitarist97
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1539 Posts
January 24 2014 20:29 GMT
#317
Also you throw your head back as soon as you start pulling. Try to avoid that otherwise you'll fuck up your neck in the long run.
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-24 20:35:07
January 24 2014 20:31 GMT
#318
Am I not supposed to? I think in the So You Think You Can Deadlift they said to look forward, though maybe I'm remembering wrong.
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-24 20:33:02
January 24 2014 20:31 GMT
#319
On January 25 2014 04:32 Najda wrote:
I had the post GoTunK made in mind while performing those deadlifts but I couldn't really feel what he meant. Should I be trying to lift it to my knees before straightening my legs?


During the first part of the deadlift, you're leading with your legs, which means you're bending over more at the waist. THEN you're pulling with your lower back, making a larger angle at the waist.

Instead, you should be keeping your back, relative to the ground at a consistent angle in the first part of the motion, then when the bar passes your knees, bringing your hips forward to make that angle greater.

I'l try and draw up a quick MS paint diagram for you.

edit:

neck-wise, the best option is "neutral" but this isn't a major deal. It may or may not result in some pulled upper back muscles at higher weights. I personally have my head up a bit further than I should, but I find the mental assistance it gives me is worth more than the things it takes away. Still, at least try it both ways.
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
January 24 2014 20:35 GMT
#320
On January 25 2014 05:31 phyre112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2014 04:32 Najda wrote:
I had the post GoTunK made in mind while performing those deadlifts but I couldn't really feel what he meant. Should I be trying to lift it to my knees before straightening my legs?


During the first part of the deadlift, you're leading with your legs, which means you're bending over more at the waist. THEN you're pulling with your lower back, making a larger angle at the waist.

Instead, you should be keeping your back, relative to the ground at a consistent angle in the first part of the motion, then when the bar passes your knees, bringing your hips forward to make that angle greater.

I'l try and draw up a quick MS paint diagram for you.


I think I know what you mean and I remember noticing it in the video. Is there a cue you use to keep your back at the correct angle while lifting the first half?
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