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Donkeys
Profile Joined August 2010
Mexico308 Posts
July 08 2014 05:23 GMT
#1981
Hit 97 on the snatch and 118 on the CJ today! Also 145x3 on the squat. Haven't hit those numbers in 3-4 weeks. I think I fixed my arm bend on the snatch, lifts have been feeling much better. I try to relax my arms on the clean too but I can't control my arm bend, arms are extended when I finish the pull though, so I don't know. I'll try to keep it closer past the knee.

http://www.belowtherimyo.blogspot.com/
ii.blitzkrieg
Profile Joined November 2006
Canada1122 Posts
July 08 2014 05:36 GMT
#1982
Forced myself into the gym today after only getting in twice in the past 2 weeks. Felt so fucking terrible in that time and I don't know why (fuck you depression.) Anyway I told myself I was going to the gym no matter what today, weekend wasn't that bad aside from lack of sleep.

Feel so much better now, I think the worse you feel before going in the better you feel when you're in the gym/afterwards. At least that seems to be the case for me.
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phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
July 08 2014 07:18 GMT
#1983
Missed a workout today because I was with my family doing a late 4th of july thing. Should have been (and probably will be on thursday)

15 minutes to work to 1rm power snatch
Front Squats 5x7 (ouch) w/ 2 min rest between sets

Then 21-15-9 of:
Thrusters (135 - probably will scale to 115)
Bar Muscle Ups (possibly will scale for 1 pullup 1 dip, or maybe just 2 pullups)

Tomorrow's workout is already posted. It's Probably going to kill me, but I'll leave that for tomorrow to post.

And whoever posted about lucky brand jeans fitting well over big quads (I think it was decaf?) Thanks a ton. Picked up a few pairs today and they're a perfect fit.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20074 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-08 13:50:13
July 08 2014 13:49 GMT
#1984
@donkeys - try some pulls/position work so you can focus on relaxing your arms and activating your back and lats. Try doing them with your eyes closed too to get a feel for it.

@phyre - Yeah that was my recommendation wearing mine now lol. 5x7 FS sounds dumb. No reason to do more than a set of 5 especially with crossfitters and I generally never do more than 3. My gym usually replaces each muscle up with 3 pull ups and 3 dips to motivate people to do muscle ups :p
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15355 Posts
July 08 2014 14:25 GMT
#1985
I'll try muscle-ups tonight if the gym has a suitable bar. Everyone seems to make such a big deal out of them but they always look so easy to me. But then again I have never tried. Let's see how that goes.
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mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
July 08 2014 14:59 GMT
#1986
On July 08 2014 23:25 zatic wrote:
I'll try muscle-ups tonight if the gym has a suitable bar. Everyone seems to make such a big deal out of them but they always look so easy to me. But then again I have never tried. Let's see how that goes.

LOL
Best of luck
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Maluk
Profile Joined August 2011
France987 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-08 17:32:35
July 08 2014 17:24 GMT
#1987
So after testing weight lifting for a week (transitioning from body weight) I like the program that phyre112 gave me a lot and weight lifting brings me what I was searching for (in short : not having to make tons of reps to progress).

I realized that I don't have the perfect technique for weight lifting exercises yet (I am actually very bad). So I decided to temporarily do 3x10 reps with weights that I can lift a bit more easily rather than 3x5 with weights that feel very heavy, because I want to get a good grasp on the technique before lifting too heavy. I tend to get injuries very easily if my moves are not perfectly adjusted.

I'm getting better at bench press, deadlift, etc. and I feel like my technique will be good enough soon.

When I tried to squat I felt intense pain right below the knees, at the front of my legs (above shinbones), and I still haven't figured out how to make it go away. I asked a coach if something was wrong with my position and he told me that it looked fine to him, so I guess I'll just have to google about my problem or figure out different positions for myself.

Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
July 08 2014 19:14 GMT
#1988
Anyone have any suggestions for workouts that can be done with a light barbell? I'm trying to get back in shape for an imminent return to the gym, but I only have a barbell. I've been doing some squats with 65lbs on it, but without any sort of rack I can only squat what I can clean.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
July 08 2014 20:02 GMT
#1989
On July 08 2014 22:49 decafchicken wrote:
@donkeys - try some pulls/position work so you can focus on relaxing your arms and activating your back and lats. Try doing them with your eyes closed too to get a feel for it.

@phyre - Yeah that was my recommendation wearing mine now lol. 5x7 FS sounds dumb. No reason to do more than a set of 5 especially with crossfitters and I generally never do more than 3. My gym usually replaces each muscle up with 3 pull ups and 3 dips to motivate people to do muscle ups :p


I don't know what they'll scale muscle ups for. I've never seen bar muscle ups in a workout, and the last time we did ring muscle ups, it was at the end of an AMRAP, so you just either did them or didn't.

As far as I can tell, the squat work we're doing (just finished three cycles of 5/3/1) alternates front and back squats from week to week, with three squat workouts - first one is 5x7, second is 7x5 and third is 10x3. So in that context it makes more sense... but high rep sets of front squats are still pretty awful for actually building your squat strength.
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
July 08 2014 20:17 GMT
#1990
On July 09 2014 02:24 Maluk wrote:
So after testing weight lifting for a week (transitioning from body weight) I like the program that phyre112 gave me a lot and weight lifting brings me what I was searching for (in short : not having to make tons of reps to progress).

I realized that I don't have the perfect technique for weight lifting exercises yet (I am actually very bad). So I decided to temporarily do 3x10 reps with weights that I can lift a bit more easily rather than 3x5 with weights that feel very heavy, because I want to get a good grasp on the technique before lifting too heavy. I tend to get injuries very easily if my moves are not perfectly adjusted.

I'm getting better at bench press, deadlift, etc. and I feel like my technique will be good enough soon.

When I tried to squat I felt intense pain right below the knees, at the front of my legs (above shinbones), and I still haven't figured out how to make it go away. I asked a coach if something was wrong with my position and he told me that it looked fine to him, so I guess I'll just have to google about my problem or figure out different positions for myself.



imo you should NEVER do a movement that gives you "knee pain". be warned
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Maluk
Profile Joined August 2011
France987 Posts
July 08 2014 22:43 GMT
#1991
On July 09 2014 05:17 FFGenerations wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 09 2014 02:24 Maluk wrote:
So after testing weight lifting for a week (transitioning from body weight) I like the program that phyre112 gave me a lot and weight lifting brings me what I was searching for (in short : not having to make tons of reps to progress).

I realized that I don't have the perfect technique for weight lifting exercises yet (I am actually very bad). So I decided to temporarily do 3x10 reps with weights that I can lift a bit more easily rather than 3x5 with weights that feel very heavy, because I want to get a good grasp on the technique before lifting too heavy. I tend to get injuries very easily if my moves are not perfectly adjusted.

I'm getting better at bench press, deadlift, etc. and I feel like my technique will be good enough soon.

When I tried to squat I felt intense pain right below the knees, at the front of my legs (above shinbones), and I still haven't figured out how to make it go away. I asked a coach if something was wrong with my position and he told me that it looked fine to him, so I guess I'll just have to google about my problem or figure out different positions for myself.



imo you should NEVER do a movement that gives you "knee pain". be warned


Yeah, I don't plan on continuing to squat if it is painful. I will try to modify my position first and if I don't find a solution I will just replace the squat (although I guess it should be hard to replace).
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
July 08 2014 23:30 GMT
#1992
Post a video of you squatting.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
July 08 2014 23:43 GMT
#1993
I did a no hands squat on the gym to impress some bitches up in the hizzei (100kg)

Impressed they were. .
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phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-08 23:46:39
July 08 2014 23:45 GMT
#1994
On July 09 2014 02:24 Maluk wrote:
So after testing weight lifting for a week (transitioning from body weight) I like the program that phyre112 gave me a lot and weight lifting brings me what I was searching for (in short : not having to make tons of reps to progress).

I realized that I don't have the perfect technique for weight lifting exercises yet (I am actually very bad). So I decided to temporarily do 3x10 reps with weights that I can lift a bit more easily rather than 3x5 with weights that feel very heavy, because I want to get a good grasp on the technique before lifting too heavy. I tend to get injuries very easily if my moves are not perfectly adjusted.

That's fine. Just realize that you're not going to make progress as quickly on a 3x10 type of routine, and that you should really be pushing yourself to move back to that 3x5 if you want to start getting actually heavy weights up any time soon.
On July 09 2014 02:24 Maluk wrote:
I'm getting better at bench press, deadlift, etc. and I feel like my technique will be good enough soon.

When I tried to squat I felt intense pain right below the knees, at the front of my legs (above shinbones), and I still haven't figured out how to make it go away. I asked a coach if something was wrong with my position and he told me that it looked fine to him, so I guess I'll just have to google about my problem or figure out different positions for myself.

Take a video of yourself doing the lifts (either ask someone to video tape it, or even just set your phone/camera on a stack of weights or a bench of something. Doesn't have to be perfect) and ask for some tips here. Knee thing probably has to do with flexibility, but could also have to do with muscle imbalances or with old injuries getting aggravated. Can't tell without seeing it.

Today's workout:

conditioning first:
"Black and Blue" - 5 RFT
10 Power Clean @ 135#
10 Burpees
Completed RX'd in 10:01

Strength:
Bench Press 5-4-3-2-1 reps
155/160/165/170/175
DB Strict Press 2x20 @ 30#

Skill:
Chest to Bar pullups 7 sets of 6 w/40 seconds rest

Pullups are coming along really nicely. I'm starting to string them together in sets of three, but then I have to reset myself. Still a lot of progress there. Also first completed conditioning workout at RX weight. Thought I was going to puke from about the 25th burpee until the 42nd power clean. By the 42nd power clean I wasn't thinking anything besides "One more rep" over and over again. A little slow - the competitive guys completed it inlow to mid 4's, but it's still a completed RX workout.

Bench still sux. Nothing to see there. Moving on~~~~.
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
July 09 2014 02:16 GMT
#1995
On July 09 2014 07:43 Maluk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2014 05:17 FFGenerations wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 09 2014 02:24 Maluk wrote:
So after testing weight lifting for a week (transitioning from body weight) I like the program that phyre112 gave me a lot and weight lifting brings me what I was searching for (in short : not having to make tons of reps to progress).

I realized that I don't have the perfect technique for weight lifting exercises yet (I am actually very bad). So I decided to temporarily do 3x10 reps with weights that I can lift a bit more easily rather than 3x5 with weights that feel very heavy, because I want to get a good grasp on the technique before lifting too heavy. I tend to get injuries very easily if my moves are not perfectly adjusted.

I'm getting better at bench press, deadlift, etc. and I feel like my technique will be good enough soon.

When I tried to squat I felt intense pain right below the knees, at the front of my legs (above shinbones), and I still haven't figured out how to make it go away. I asked a coach if something was wrong with my position and he told me that it looked fine to him, so I guess I'll just have to google about my problem or figure out different positions for myself.



imo you should NEVER do a movement that gives you "knee pain". be warned


Yeah, I don't plan on continuing to squat if it is painful. I will try to modify my position first and if I don't find a solution I will just replace the squat (although I guess it should be hard to replace).


Don't stop squatting, that's not solving the problem. If you have shooting pain during the squats there is an underliying condition you need to identify.
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
July 09 2014 03:38 GMT
#1996
If anything squats will fix your knees.
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
July 09 2014 05:01 GMT
#1997
Forgot to mention, I've went from a 4 pack to a fat slob for my standards.

Going back to tight diet, only exception are hard liquors on weekends.
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
July 09 2014 05:46 GMT
#1998
http://suppversity.blogspot.com/2014/07/go-hard-or-go-home-study-reveals.html

Bottom line: The 24h+ reduction in myostatin in response to the high intensity trial alone would support the statement "Go Hard or Go Go Home!" In conjunction with the significant increase in MGF, the data Popov et al. present in their latest paper provide compelling evidence in favor of heavy resistance training as a means to trigger a maximal hypertrophy response - and that despite the fact that another often-measured indicator of skeletal muscle hypertrophy, i.e. ERK-1/2 (linked to protein synthesis) did not depend on exercise intensity and was thus identical for the similarly stressing MIR and HI trials.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-09 08:56:07
July 09 2014 08:55 GMT
#1999
Does anyone know Dimsum's contact info?
A friend of mine who's oly lifting seriously is visiting nj next week and I wanted to put them in touch.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 09 2014 09:57 GMT
#2000
On July 09 2014 14:46 IgnE wrote:
http://suppversity.blogspot.com/2014/07/go-hard-or-go-home-study-reveals.html

Show nested quote +
Bottom line: The 24h+ reduction in myostatin in response to the high intensity trial alone would support the statement "Go Hard or Go Go Home!" In conjunction with the significant increase in MGF, the data Popov et al. present in their latest paper provide compelling evidence in favor of heavy resistance training as a means to trigger a maximal hypertrophy response - and that despite the fact that another often-measured indicator of skeletal muscle hypertrophy, i.e. ERK-1/2 (linked to protein synthesis) did not depend on exercise intensity and was thus identical for the similarly stressing MIR and HI trials.

What I appreciate about articles like that is that it doesn't claim more than its results indicate. Always nice.
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