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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
February 02 2014 20:40 GMT
#3501
On February 03 2014 05:17 Ace wrote:
Whether anyone else touches them doesn't mean he should write about them. I've read a lot of his articles and it gets tiring seeing race brought up in every one of them. Race is a problem to some extent, but it isn't the defining reason that things don't work out the way they should. That's his shtick, and as a writer he should know better than to keep pushing that angle. There are so many things to write about in sports and that article shows he knows very little about how the NBA has evolved or what actually happened in the league over the last few decades.

He doesn't get a pass because he's black. As a black man with friends in the sports industry I'll say this - not many of us agree with the stuff he writes. He has his points but they are often taken to ridiculous places, with no actual sense of understanding the issues he writes about. Whitlock doesn't want to solve anything or help anyone, he just wants to complain and be heard.


And thats why he is important. Because inevitably at the end of this season, or next season, there will be a firing spree and like some combination of Woodson, Brown, Corbin, Vaughn, Monte Williams, Mo Cheeks, and Mark Jackson will all get the axe at once. Then someone on the HuffPo (or a similar website) will write how only 5/30 NBA coaches are black, even though like 80% of the players are, and how its even a lower percentage for GMs, and even lower for owners, and then someone like Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton will get all involved.

Then white people will have three options: Agree with them, look at our feet, or be called a racist. And then one of the two or three sensible black sportswriters will hopefully write an article that actually tells the real story: That being talented at playing basketball has almost nothing to do with being a good coach and there is no reason that coaches should look anything like players, and that they should be mostly 5'6" guys who somehow managed to make a college team because they are genius at the game of basketball, rather than able to dunk on a 12 foot hoop.

That's what will happen.
Freeeeeeedom
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
February 03 2014 00:52 GMT
#3502
hope PHO doesn't do anything stupid to get Pau.
seiferoth10
Profile Joined May 2010
3362 Posts
February 03 2014 01:08 GMT
#3503
I'm thinking Pau for Emeka Okafor + the lowest 1st rd pick PHO has rights to.

Pau could mentor Alex Len, so I see some potential there.
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
February 03 2014 01:52 GMT
#3504
Lakers will take either the Wiz, TWolves, or Suns first-round pick. Yes please. Hope it happens.
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
seiferoth10
Profile Joined May 2010
3362 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-03 01:56:54
February 03 2014 01:56 GMT
#3505
Suns also have Pacers' 1st.
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13414 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-03 12:07:18
February 03 2014 11:58 GMT
#3506
PHX will give up nothing more than Okafor's contract (I hope). They take on salary and save the Lakers something like $15 mill. Given there is zero incentive for the Lakers to win now (and so much more for them to lose) they might as well save the $$.

I don't think (hope) PHX is stupid enough to give up a pick to get Pau. Although I'm sure the Lakers will try hoodwink one out of them. They'd be stupid not to.

Edit: should add that Okafor for Pau is a trade that makes a lot of sense for both teams. If the Lakers balk because PHX won't give up a pick then I think they're majorly overvaluing Pau's worth. Given he's a FA next year no team is going to give up anything of value for the Lakers unless they're looking to make a late/deep Playoff run. PHX is the logical trade partner. Maybe Cleveland if they get really desperate to show some results.

I can't see anyone else really bothering to acquire Pau at this stage unless they really want to clear some cap space this off-season. But even then no one is going to give up a first or young prospect for Pau. Your best hope is salary relief+tank move (Okafor trade with PHX) or maybe snag a second rounder?

FWIW I think Pau does has more value as a player but with the draft hype and cap the way it is I'm not sure there's much of a market for Pau.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-03 16:13:22
February 03 2014 15:54 GMT
#3507
Lakers walked away from Cleveland which offered even more cash considerations in the Bynum contract, taking this deal for just Okafor's contract just makes Mitch look stupid.

If Phoenix won't give up a pick (at least Indiana's) then we're just gonna hold on to Pau. That's gonna be how it rolls. Even if we dump Gasol's contract it won't be enough to get us under the cap.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
February 03 2014 16:34 GMT
#3508
Did you hear The Machine is back Vindi =P ??

http://espn.go.com/blog/los-angeles/clippers/post/_/id/5863/sources-clippers-to-sign-vujacic-to-10-day-deal
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
February 03 2014 16:41 GMT
#3509
Yea i heard. I find it hilarious how many former Lakers have been on the Clippers the last few years, the fact that Kaman and Young are currently with our squad just makes it even more amusing.

I love Sasha though, I hope he plays well with his minutes.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
February 04 2014 00:49 GMT
#3510
detroit is painful to watch
like they really dont even give a fuck anymore
starleague forever
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13414 Posts
February 04 2014 01:05 GMT
#3511
To be fair I'm not sure they ever gave a fuck to begin with.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
February 04 2014 02:09 GMT
#3512
washington, east's secret weapon.
XaI)CyRiC
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4471 Posts
February 04 2014 03:44 GMT
#3513
All the Lakers-Clippers player exchanges just makes me think that they must just really like being in LA
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DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
February 04 2014 05:01 GMT
#3514
On February 04 2014 11:09 zulu_nation8 wrote:
washington, east's secret weapon.

If only they would beat the bad teams too
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
February 04 2014 05:04 GMT
#3515
https://vine.co/v/MaW0XQbz6d1

wow. lol
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
February 04 2014 06:13 GMT
#3516
Crawford just too slow on defense. He didn't even get picked :/
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
February 04 2014 06:20 GMT
#3517
yer. he looked so scared lol
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
Dogfoodboy16
Profile Joined October 2013
364 Posts
February 04 2014 06:39 GMT
#3518
Chicago bulls...wtf happened?
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
February 04 2014 06:50 GMT
#3519
Noah got tossed, cursed at the refs, catastrophe
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
February 04 2014 07:05 GMT
#3520
On February 04 2014 12:44 XaI)CyRiC wrote:
All the Lakers-Clippers player exchanges just makes me think that they must just really like being in LA


I don't blame them. Los Angeles is an awesome city. :D

I love living here.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
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