EPTNow hopefully Panama do their part and keep Mexico out of the World Cup.
Costa Rica and Argentina have also qualified for the World Cup.
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Ferrose
United States11378 Posts
Now hopefully Panama do their part and keep Mexico out of the World Cup. Costa Rica and Argentina have also qualified for the World Cup. | ||
tree.hugger
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
DOS a CERO Haahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
Goddamnit David, I love you so much. Man the Irish must hate him by now. A friend of mine started a semester abroad yesterday - in Dublin. First thing he did with his new flatmates was go watch the game in a pub. I specifically told him that Alaba would score the deciding goal in the last minutes again. I'm like a prophet. | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Congratulations on Qualifying for Brazil 2014  Japan Australia Iran South Korea Italy Netherlands USA Argentina Costa Rica | ||
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sharkie
Austria18762 Posts
I hope you guys like Klinsmann more now? lol | ||
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MapleLeafSirup
Germany950 Posts
We had similar problems in Germany around 2000. Luckily, we realized in time that the youth system had to be improved dramatically and that paid off obviously. Yet in England, I am worried that this won't happen in the same way, because the EPL teams have so much more money available that they simply do not care about young talents that they would have to support by themselves. | ||
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zeo
Serbia6343 Posts
On September 11 2013 17:16 MapleLeafSirup wrote: England have become worse and worse since 1996 and it does not seem to stop. As soon as the Gerrard/Lampard generation retires, their problems might even increase. I could see a big crisis coming up for England and hopefully the EPL teams will take responsibility for that and start to support homegrown talents. We had similar problems in Germany around 2000. Luckily, we realized in time that the youth system had to be improved dramatically and that paid off obviously. Yet in England, I am worried that this won't happen in the same way, because the EPL teams have so much more money available that they simply do not care about young talents that they would have to support by themselves. This. I think very few players in the coming generation can fill the shoes left behind, not just Lampard/Gerrard but in positions like striker there is no new Rooney or Owen and I get the feeling that the situation is even more alarming in the defensive end. Rio/Terry/Cole were top notch their whole careers. My guess is that there will be no wake-up call until England fail to qualify for a major tournament. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
We have potential in our U21 team, some great passing midfielders, some up and coming defenders, an average looking keeper and some pacey wingers/attackers. What we wont have in a years time is that team still together though, the senior side will have ripped them out too soon and we will be left with the same issue xD I think the only player who has actually played his full course of U21 football was Milner, who at that time was great for the national side, was doing a job all the time when he finally got called up by Capello. Was good to see, but that was only because he got his full course of U21 football, played 2 tournaments in fact, getting to the semi finals and final. However he is now shite because of regular football he lacks at man city >.< But atleast when you get the full course of U21 football you get players who understand international football better, rather than it all being new the first time you do it. There is only a handful of players who are good enough to skip those kind of U21 sides, the likes of Rooney and Owen being the only ones i can think of in my lifetime. The rest have all failed. Take Walcott under Sven and Capello, both of them had him in preliminary squads for World Cups, the one took him to the tournament and didn't play him (world cup 2006) the other doesn't even take him (world cup 2010) and it is just pointless and wrong. Let them play U21 level before they get anywhere near the senior side. I do believe that is where the FA want them to go i think, the new direction and crap, it is where it needs to start imo. Educate players at U21 level better thus at senior level they will have the experience to play as good as they can with the pressure they will be semi used too. (Obvs crunch world cup game beats an U21 tournament game, or a qualifier for a world cup > u21 qualifier xD) | ||
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WillyWanker
France1915 Posts
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sharkie
Austria18762 Posts
On September 11 2013 18:02 zeo wrote: This. I think very few players in the coming generation can fill the shoes left behind, not just Lampard/Gerrard but in positions like striker there is no new Rooney or Owen and I get the feeling that the situation is even more alarming in the defensive end. Rio/Terry/Cole were top notch their whole careers. My guess is that there will be no wake-up call until England fail to qualify for a major tournament. you mean world cup? they missed a Euro already in recent years, remember | ||
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Ysellian
Netherlands9029 Posts
Of course having talented youngsters be brought into the club at a young age will benefit the clubs, but your national side will struggle. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
I don't think there is any issue with being educated pre U21, because our kids are being bought up properly now, the FA just keep pointing fingers backwards because it is not happening at sunday league level. Which i don't see being any issue to elite footballers. Any Prem team academy or even Championship academy are taught how to play properly. Take a look at the kid europe cup last year, 3/4 semi finalists where English teams, with Villa vs Chelsea the final. Last years youth FA cup victors where Norwich who beat Chelsea in the final. It says alot about how good the academies are in England the reason i have faith in that system. They all play good football too, they are defiantly being taught properly. | ||
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zeo
Serbia6343 Posts
On September 11 2013 18:32 WillyWanker wrote: Imo U21 is too late to educate anybody... It should be done much younger, and on a club level all over the country, not just for the national team :s Serbia won the under-19 European championship this year and it didn't even take a month for half the team to get poached up. Aleksandar Mitrović (18), best player in the squad by far and one of the top talents in Europe was sold off to Anderlecht without a second thought for 5 million euro. Jose Mourinho was at the match between Serbia vs. Croatia last week and said Mitrovic was the best player on the pitch and Anderlecht made one hell of a deal getting him that cheap. Point of the story is young talented players just don't take the time needed to grow in their home environment, but in the case of England there is no space for them to grow in their own environment. But I don't think it will turn into a tennis situation anytime soon were the best competition is in England while English players are nowhere to be found. | ||
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Akka
France291 Posts
Coincidence? I think not. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
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Ysellian
Netherlands9029 Posts
On September 11 2013 18:55 Pandemona wrote: We do have the talent just fine imo though lol. From the Chelsea youngster side we have Baker Kane Chalobah Brown Mcheran all could be top talent for the future, what they need to do now though is play week in week out whether it be championship or league one, as well as being played in the U21 side and environment. So when they get into the first teams in the premiership they are then able to get into the national side with experience as well. I don't think there is any issue with being educated pre U21, because our kids are being bought up properly now, the FA just keep pointing fingers backwards because it is not happening at sunday league level. Which i don't see being any issue to elite footballers. Any Prem team academy or even Championship academy are taught how to play properly. Take a look at the kid europe cup last year, 3/4 semi finalists where English teams, with Villa vs Chelsea the final. Last years youth FA cup victors where Norwich who beat Chelsea in the final. It says alot about how good the academies are in England the reason i have faith in that system. They all play good football too, they are defiantly being taught properly. England sent 6 teams to the nexgen series XD Meanwhile Ajax was significantly weakened midway through the tournament because they promoted the best players to the first team (and weren't even the best youth team at the time in the Netherlands) | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Still! I know Chelsea beat Barcelona youth, and the Catalan paper lead with the Headline of "Kids got outplayed by Chelsea" Beat them playing football :33 | ||
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Ysellian
Netherlands9029 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
It might be a silly circle but that way is fine for me | ||
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