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slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
July 11 2013 18:46 GMT
#1001
On July 11 2013 12:51 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 10:09 slyboogie wrote:
On July 11 2013 10:05 DystopiaX wrote:
On July 11 2013 09:26 Doraemon wrote:
so basically jazz paid $24M for 5 draft picks. hmm

And expirings. They know they're not going to do anything this season anyway but they were below the cap, which is an asset in itself. So they got 5 draft picks in exchange for basically nothing, and will have cap space again next offseason. It's basically 5 free draft picks.


No no, I don't think that's the right way to put it. They already had cap space. They didn't trade for more cap space. Doraemon is right: They are going to pay 28 million dollars in contracts for picks. That's all it is.

I didn't mean it like that, merely that the contracts that they were going to take, while terrible, would only last for one season, a season they were planning on being pretty terrible during anyway. So they get draft picks in exchange for taking on bad, overpriced talent, which isn't really that bad for them anyway.


Well, it's bad in the sense that $28 million dollars can feed all the homeless in Salt Lake City for a year. Or that Greg Miller could buy another fleet of yachts. But yes, it's picks for cash, basically. And cash doesn't play basketball, picks might. I'm not saying it was bad move, they had to meet the salary floor anyways, but it wasn't a "free" move for sure.
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
July 11 2013 19:34 GMT
#1002
On July 12 2013 02:35 andrewlt wrote:
Riggin' for Wiggins is the new Suck for Luck. They just have to roll with it.

I agree. I hope they will pull something off. Kobe would prob buy into it if he sees a better chance at winning the next few years too.
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-11 22:44:45
July 11 2013 22:33 GMT
#1003
Summer League doesn't mean much, but Drummond has been putting up hilarious numbers so far.

G1: 12 points, 16 boards, 6 blocks, 5 steals
G2: 12 points, 11 boards
G3: 23 points, 18 boards, 2 blocks, 2 steals



Also, he's 19 years old. ^_^

Siva's been playing well too, which makes the PG situation weird. They basically have Knight + 3 backups right now. I guess Chauncey can play more of a 2, but the roster is still too big. Stuckey and CV definitely have to be moved.
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DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-11 23:03:30
July 11 2013 23:02 GMT
#1004
^that's like... the "I have all the athleticism for rebounds and blocks and my points are coming mostly from putbacks" statline, every game lol

Kinda hope Lakers get the 8th seed, then there' no way they get/the league will rig for them to get Wiggins.


On July 12 2013 03:46 slyboogie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 12:51 DystopiaX wrote:
On July 11 2013 10:09 slyboogie wrote:
On July 11 2013 10:05 DystopiaX wrote:
On July 11 2013 09:26 Doraemon wrote:
so basically jazz paid $24M for 5 draft picks. hmm

And expirings. They know they're not going to do anything this season anyway but they were below the cap, which is an asset in itself. So they got 5 draft picks in exchange for basically nothing, and will have cap space again next offseason. It's basically 5 free draft picks.


No no, I don't think that's the right way to put it. They already had cap space. They didn't trade for more cap space. Doraemon is right: They are going to pay 28 million dollars in contracts for picks. That's all it is.

I didn't mean it like that, merely that the contracts that they were going to take, while terrible, would only last for one season, a season they were planning on being pretty terrible during anyway. So they get draft picks in exchange for taking on bad, overpriced talent, which isn't really that bad for them anyway.


Well, it's bad in the sense that $28 million dollars can feed all the homeless in Salt Lake City for a year. Or that Greg Miller could buy another fleet of yachts. But yes, it's picks for cash, basically. And cash doesn't play basketball, picks might. I'm not saying it was bad move, they had to meet the salary floor anyways, but it wasn't a "free" move for sure.

Yeah, I guess when I said "free" I meant more in a "they weren't going to do anything else with the money anyway, why not get picks" kind of way.
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
July 11 2013 23:24 GMT
#1005
so...AK opts out of $10m...for....$3m? hilarious
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
July 11 2013 23:28 GMT
#1006
On July 12 2013 02:18 MassHysteria wrote:
I agree, but it is just my realistic look into it as the pieces are right now.

Ideally, I also think that if the Lakers start off bad (or good but with no real hope), they could trade Pau and Nash for whatever they can get. It's just hard because it pretty much means saying sorry Kobe, we don't think you can do it anymore (and not sure he will be okay). That is the main reason I don't see them blowing it up...

They will never do this
seiferoth10
Profile Joined May 2010
3362 Posts
July 11 2013 23:34 GMT
#1007
On July 12 2013 08:24 Doraemon wrote:
so...AK opts out of $10m...for....$3m? hilarious

I can see why he landed on the Nets, but have no idea how he signed for so little.
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
July 11 2013 23:49 GMT
#1008
also, sheed coaching chauncey...that's going to be fun too.
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
July 11 2013 23:50 GMT
#1009
The Nets are the 2nd best team in the East now.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Holcan
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2593 Posts
July 11 2013 23:54 GMT
#1010
On July 12 2013 08:50 Ace wrote:
The Nets are the 2nd best team in the East now.

They are what the Celtics wanted to be the past few years
Reference The Inadvertant Joey, Strong talented orchastrasted intelligent character.
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
July 11 2013 23:57 GMT
#1011
On July 12 2013 08:34 seiferoth10 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 08:24 Doraemon wrote:
so...AK opts out of $10m...for....$3m? hilarious

I can see why he landed on the Nets, but have no idea how he signed for so little.


"I know where your family lives AK, just sign at the dotted line..."
Get it by your hands...
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-12 00:05:07
July 11 2013 23:59 GMT
#1012
Nets look good but have potential to be this year's last year's Lakers.

If he wanted to be on a winning team I have no idea why he took less money to go to the Nets but didn't take less money to go to the Spurs.

Nick Young to the Lakers confirmed, don't know why they want a second chucker/volume shooter since they have Kobe though.

edit- apparently the Spurs needed to sign and trade to get AK47, and the Wolves couldn't take on more contracts after signing Kevin Martin, so I guess that explains it.
Cyanocyst
Profile Joined October 2010
2222 Posts
July 12 2013 00:05 GMT
#1013
On July 12 2013 07:33 Jibba wrote:
Summer League doesn't mean much, but Drummond has been putting up hilarious numbers so far.

G1: 12 points, 16 boards, 6 blocks, 5 steals
G2: 12 points, 11 boards
G3: 23 points, 18 boards, 2 blocks, 2 steals

http://youtu.be/Uqd6v1G-YyE

Also, he's 19 years old. ^_^

Siva's been playing well too, which makes the PG situation weird. They basically have Knight + 3 backups right now. I guess Chauncey can play more of a 2, but the roster is still too big. Stuckey and CV definitely have to be moved.


I know the Bynum Signing is more and more confusing. Also Siva is older having stayed 4 years at college, hes more of a polished product. likely meaning his ceiling is lower. So its not like stashing him in EU, or going to D league is beneficial.

Sg actually makes since for Chauncey, as it's pretty much for sure English is gone. And if we can get rid of Stuckey, Chauncey and Kcp would make since there.
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MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
July 12 2013 02:26 GMT
#1014
On July 12 2013 01:42 MassHysteria wrote:
In all seriousness though, if the Lakers sign Nick Young I think the possibility of cutting Metta goes up. They can put Kobe at the SF slot when he comes back. They kind of need him though, they don't have many SF's if they let him go at this time.

Hate to say it (in this case) but I was right. Gonna miss MWP.

And Gasol is actually looking very moveable now. Signs point to them not being afraid to pull the trigger.
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
July 12 2013 03:22 GMT
#1015
Calamity of calamities.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
rwrzr
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1980 Posts
July 12 2013 06:40 GMT
#1016
Is the NBA setting Miami up for a 3peat?
FADC
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
July 12 2013 07:05 GMT
#1017
Yeah, all these teams getting so much better really made it easier for Miami to win this year.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16117 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-12 07:36:12
July 12 2013 07:35 GMT
#1018
On July 12 2013 08:59 DystopiaX wrote:
Nets look good but have potential to be this year's last year's Lakers.

If he wanted to be on a winning team I have no idea why he took less money to go to the Nets but didn't take less money to go to the Spurs.

Nick Young to the Lakers confirmed, don't know why they want a second chucker/volume shooter since they have Kobe though.

edit- apparently the Spurs needed to sign and trade to get AK47, and the Wolves couldn't take on more contracts after signing Kevin Martin, so I guess that explains it.


I actually like the Nick Young signing.

We need someone that can score off of the bench, last year that was a major problem for us and one of the main reasons Kobe was playing so many damn minutes per game down the stretch.

He's just one of those players you need to keep on a short leash and ironically I think Kobe is actually the best man to do that.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Holcan
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2593 Posts
July 12 2013 08:00 GMT
#1019
Nash/Blake
Kobe/Meeks
Young
Hill
Gasol/Sacre


this team is going to have 120 dropped on them every night
Reference The Inadvertant Joey, Strong talented orchastrasted intelligent character.
XaI)CyRiC
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4471 Posts
July 12 2013 08:06 GMT
#1020
Possible that Lakers strategy = all-offense/fun-to-watch team that can't play good enough defense to be consistently competitive.

Building the team to score a bunch of points will make it look like they're not tanking, and will allow them to still entertain their fans despite not contending. At the same time, an all-offense approach will suite D'Antoni and Kobe's continued record chasing for career points. However, the Lakers will struggle to win consistently with such a poor defensive lineup, and maybe give them a shot at being players in the 2014 lottery.
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