On July 11 2013 09:26 Doraemon wrote: so basically jazz paid $24M for 5 draft picks. hmm
And expirings. They know they're not going to do anything this season anyway but they were below the cap, which is an asset in itself. So they got 5 draft picks in exchange for basically nothing, and will have cap space again next offseason. It's basically 5 free draft picks.
No no, I don't think that's the right way to put it. They already had cap space. They didn't trade for more cap space. Doraemon is right: They are going to pay 28 million dollars in contracts for picks. That's all it is.
I didn't mean it like that, merely that the contracts that they were going to take, while terrible, would only last for one season, a season they were planning on being pretty terrible during anyway. So they get draft picks in exchange for taking on bad, overpriced talent, which isn't really that bad for them anyway.
Well, it's bad in the sense that $28 million dollars can feed all the homeless in Salt Lake City for a year. Or that Greg Miller could buy another fleet of yachts. But yes, it's picks for cash, basically. And cash doesn't play basketball, picks might. I'm not saying it was bad move, they had to meet the salary floor anyways, but it wasn't a "free" move for sure.
Siva's been playing well too, which makes the PG situation weird. They basically have Knight + 3 backups right now. I guess Chauncey can play more of a 2, but the roster is still too big. Stuckey and CV definitely have to be moved.
On July 11 2013 09:26 Doraemon wrote: so basically jazz paid $24M for 5 draft picks. hmm
And expirings. They know they're not going to do anything this season anyway but they were below the cap, which is an asset in itself. So they got 5 draft picks in exchange for basically nothing, and will have cap space again next offseason. It's basically 5 free draft picks.
No no, I don't think that's the right way to put it. They already had cap space. They didn't trade for more cap space. Doraemon is right: They are going to pay 28 million dollars in contracts for picks. That's all it is.
I didn't mean it like that, merely that the contracts that they were going to take, while terrible, would only last for one season, a season they were planning on being pretty terrible during anyway. So they get draft picks in exchange for taking on bad, overpriced talent, which isn't really that bad for them anyway.
Well, it's bad in the sense that $28 million dollars can feed all the homeless in Salt Lake City for a year. Or that Greg Miller could buy another fleet of yachts. But yes, it's picks for cash, basically. And cash doesn't play basketball, picks might. I'm not saying it was bad move, they had to meet the salary floor anyways, but it wasn't a "free" move for sure.
Yeah, I guess when I said "free" I meant more in a "they weren't going to do anything else with the money anyway, why not get picks" kind of way.
On July 12 2013 02:18 MassHysteria wrote: I agree, but it is just my realistic look into it as the pieces are right now.
Ideally, I also think that if the Lakers start off bad (or good but with no real hope), they could trade Pau and Nash for whatever they can get. It's just hard because it pretty much means saying sorry Kobe, we don't think you can do it anymore (and not sure he will be okay). That is the main reason I don't see them blowing it up...
Nets look good but have potential to be this year's last year's Lakers.
If he wanted to be on a winning team I have no idea why he took less money to go to the Nets but didn't take less money to go to the Spurs.
Nick Young to the Lakers confirmed, don't know why they want a second chucker/volume shooter since they have Kobe though.
edit- apparently the Spurs needed to sign and trade to get AK47, and the Wolves couldn't take on more contracts after signing Kevin Martin, so I guess that explains it.
Siva's been playing well too, which makes the PG situation weird. They basically have Knight + 3 backups right now. I guess Chauncey can play more of a 2, but the roster is still too big. Stuckey and CV definitely have to be moved.
I know the Bynum Signing is more and more confusing. Also Siva is older having stayed 4 years at college, hes more of a polished product. likely meaning his ceiling is lower. So its not like stashing him in EU, or going to D league is beneficial.
Sg actually makes since for Chauncey, as it's pretty much for sure English is gone. And if we can get rid of Stuckey, Chauncey and Kcp would make since there.
On July 12 2013 01:42 MassHysteria wrote: In all seriousness though, if the Lakers sign Nick Young I think the possibility of cutting Metta goes up. They can put Kobe at the SF slot when he comes back. They kind of need him though, they don't have many SF's if they let him go at this time.
Hate to say it (in this case) but I was right. Gonna miss MWP.
And Gasol is actually looking very moveable now. Signs point to them not being afraid to pull the trigger.
On July 12 2013 08:59 DystopiaX wrote: Nets look good but have potential to be this year's last year's Lakers.
If he wanted to be on a winning team I have no idea why he took less money to go to the Nets but didn't take less money to go to the Spurs.
Nick Young to the Lakers confirmed, don't know why they want a second chucker/volume shooter since they have Kobe though.
edit- apparently the Spurs needed to sign and trade to get AK47, and the Wolves couldn't take on more contracts after signing Kevin Martin, so I guess that explains it.
I actually like the Nick Young signing.
We need someone that can score off of the bench, last year that was a major problem for us and one of the main reasons Kobe was playing so many damn minutes per game down the stretch.
He's just one of those players you need to keep on a short leash and ironically I think Kobe is actually the best man to do that.
Possible that Lakers strategy = all-offense/fun-to-watch team that can't play good enough defense to be consistently competitive.
Building the team to score a bunch of points will make it look like they're not tanking, and will allow them to still entertain their fans despite not contending. At the same time, an all-offense approach will suite D'Antoni and Kobe's continued record chasing for career points. However, the Lakers will struggle to win consistently with such a poor defensive lineup, and maybe give them a shot at being players in the 2014 lottery.
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