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SixSongs
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Poland1455 Posts
March 24 2013 07:09 GMT
#101
I'll chip in to this discussion. Currently I'm on a very rigorous diet. I wouldn't reccomend it to everyone, but I've tried it once and I know it works. It's basically not eating solid food for a month,only once a week, then eating one solid meal a day for two weeks, instead only drinking protein shakes and taking supplements and fish oil.

Before you all start bashing on me, please read the description of the diet and the target audience. Like I said it's radical and it's now for everyone but if you want results and are willing to sacrifice a little, it's a great diet. It has a work out plan and if you follow the steps correctly you will deff loose lots of fat and even gain some muscle mass. You don't need to use you this specific producer supplements.

I've used them on my first time with this diet and I've lost 22lbs in 4 weeks, and total of 27 lbs in 6 weeks. From 198 lbs 6'1 i went to 170-171lbs. I got ripped. No magic here. Just hard work and consistency. This diet is called Velocity Diet and it's a plan from a website called t-nation. I'll post the link, if its illegal please mods to remove it and I could PM it to intrested people. Please coment and tell me what you think.

Only constructive criticism please.

VELOCITY DIET
The Prince of DroneS
ieatkids5
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States4628 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-24 08:49:54
March 24 2013 08:49 GMT
#102
i read through the diet and all the supplements and training. some questions/thoughts:
- how much does it cost for you to get all the supplements you need for that 4-week period? (im genuinely curious, not trying to be a dick here)
- do you get really hungry from only taking supplements and drinking those shakes?
- it's easy to be skeptical of something that advocates taking only supplements and powdered shakes for 4 weeks. why should i do this diet instead of getting my nutrients from actual food while maintaining a caloric deficit to lose weight?
- where can i find the actual workouts? i read through the description of the beginner, intermediate, and advanced workouts, but no actual workout schedule, what types of lifts and exercises...?

it seems like this program does indeed deliver results. and if you are someone who needs to follow a very specific program so that you dont "cheat," this seems great. however, if you are someone who has the discipline to maintain a caloric deficit on actual food, you should be able to get the same results without spending that much money.
Adel
Profile Joined February 2011
Belgium86 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-24 13:50:48
March 24 2013 13:50 GMT
#103
On March 24 2013 17:49 ieatkids5 wrote:
why should i do this diet instead of getting my nutrients from actual food while maintaining a caloric deficit to lose weight?


Same question here. It says that I'm supposed to eat about 1400 cal on non-workout days and 1800 cal on workout days.
Why not do the same but by eating actual food and supplements?

Btw ieatkids5 : when you use their calculator, they give you a link to buy their supplement package. It costs 430$ with free FedEx Shipping in USA/48.

On a side-note, Rob Riches prepares very tasty healthy meals and teaches you how to get them done yourself.
Check out this one, for example :




Awesome burgers!
NeedsmoreCELLTECH
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Netherlands1242 Posts
March 24 2013 17:20 GMT
#104
On March 20 2013 22:49 iLikeRain wrote:
Started my cut a few days ago.

Currently sitting on 97kg, 192cm with 11-12%

Should be possible to reach shredded status within a couple of months before the weather starts to allow beach times here in Denmark (we still have snow).

My strategy? I eat healthy all year around but just love food, so it's hard to just cut back by a lot all of a sudden. So it's just by pure motivation I guess, no magic there.

Wtf you're huge. Can't imagine that when you're that big at 11-12% you'd have a problem with cutting 500kcals/day from your diet. Care to post pics?
Get huge or die mirin | Diamond on LoL
Decadent
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Sweden29 Posts
March 24 2013 19:23 GMT
#105
190'ish grams of protein.
250'ish grams of carbs.
70'ish grams of fats.
2300 calories.

This is what I eat everyday.
Water, coffee and green tea is what I drink.

I hit the gym 6 days a week.

Monday: Chest
Tuesday: Legs
Wednesday: Crossfit or if I feel I want to hit something two times in one week.
Thursday: Shoulders
Friday: Rest
Saturday: Back
Sunday: Arms

10-20 minutes of cardio (HIIT) every day.
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15328 Posts
March 24 2013 19:52 GMT
#106
On March 20 2013 07:05 Deadeight wrote:
Ephedrine is also banned unless you have a medical reason. I'll just stick to not taking anything at all.

EDIT: @mods / Zatic / anyone, are we even allowed to discuss stuff like that here?

Late to the party, but yeah this is fine to discuss.
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
March 25 2013 01:39 GMT
#107
@ ieatkids5, I forgot to mention, yeah I only drink water. I guess I'll have to cut out almond butter, which is unfortunate since I am in love with it.

IT SHALL BE DONE
Refer to my post.
SixSongs
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Poland1455 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-25 10:41:29
March 25 2013 10:25 GMT
#108
On March 24 2013 17:49 ieatkids5 wrote:
i read through the diet and all the supplements and training. some questions/thoughts:
- how much does it cost for you to get all the supplements you need for that 4-week period? (im genuinely curious, not trying to be a dick here)
- do you get really hungry from only taking supplements and drinking those shakes?
- it's easy to be skeptical of something that advocates taking only supplements and powdered shakes for 4 weeks. why should i do this diet instead of getting my nutrients from actual food while maintaining a caloric deficit to lose weight?
- where can i find the actual workouts? i read through the description of the beginner, intermediate, and advanced workouts, but no actual workout schedule, what types of lifts and exercises...?

it seems like this program does indeed deliver results. and if you are someone who needs to follow a very specific program so that you dont "cheat," this seems great. however, if you are someone who has the discipline to maintain a caloric deficit on actual food, you should be able to get the same results without spending that much money.


Hi, I'm sorry I didn't get to you earlier.

Answers to you questions:
Q:
- how much does it cost for you to get all the supplements you need for that 4-week period? (im genuinely curious, not trying to be a dick here)
A: You are not being a dick, it's an obvious question with so many scams around the Internet. If I remember correctly it is around $500. I don't remember precisely but it's a little less than that and if u live in the continental US, the shipping is free. I know it seems like a lot of money, but you have to take into consideration that during that time you will not spend any money on any food except one HSM( Healthy Solid Meal) a week for the 4-week period, then one HSM a day for the next two weeks. You can look at it this way $500/6 weeks or 42 days= $11.9~$12/day. It's not that much considering how much an average person spends of food daily.

Q:
- do you get really hungry from only taking supplements and drinking those shakes?
A: I'll be honest with you, "You fuckin do ", Especially for the first few days. I mean, you are not used to drinking supplements all day instead of solid food. Nobody is. But it gets easier as days go by and you see progress. It's also a good test for your character, if you can actually do it. Like I said in the previous post, it's probably not the best or most optimal way but it works great. By week 2 you are amazed how much time do you have, especially in the morning since you don't need to prepare/eat food. And when Sat/Sunday is around the corner you are super happy cause you know that you can reward yourself with 1 HSM.

Q:
- it's easy to be skeptical of something that advocates taking only supplements and powdered shakes for 4 weeks. why should i do this diet instead of getting my nutrients from actual food while maintaining a caloric deficit to lose weight?
A: You are 100 % correct that actual whole foods are better for you, but this diet as it's called Velocity, is not for a long period of time, it's designed to shed that fat quickly and to motivate you to keep pushing yourself even further. I don't know the exact reasons for this, but the designers of the diet explain why go with the suppls on the website.

Q:
- where can i find the actual workouts? i read through the description of the beginner, intermediate, and advanced workouts, but no actual workout schedule, what types of lifts and exercises...?
A:
I'm posting few pictures with exact placement of the workouts. They include descriptions and videos so newcomers can see exactly what to do step by step.
[image loading]
1-You go to Velocity Training tab
2- Then you click on Training Program tab
[image loading]
3- Then you choose your level of gym experience
4- You can also download specific sheets for you to keep track.

The Prince of DroneS
SixSongs
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Poland1455 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-25 10:36:18
March 25 2013 10:33 GMT
#109
On March 24 2013 22:50 Adel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2013 17:49 ieatkids5 wrote:
why should i do this diet instead of getting my nutrients from actual food while maintaining a caloric deficit to lose weight?


Same question here. It says that I'm supposed to eat about 1400 cal on non-workout days and 1800 cal on workout days.
Why not do the same but by eating actual food and supplements?

Btw ieatkids5 : when you use their calculator, they give you a link to buy their supplement package. It costs 430$ with free FedEx Shipping in USA/48.

On a side-note, Rob Riches prepares very tasty healthy meals and teaches you how to get them done yourself.
Check out this one, for example :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBUEUc8epuY


Awesome burgers!


You can do the same with actual food, I know that all you need is caloric deficit. But, like I said this diet is not for everyone, I wanted to try it and I wanted to test myself if I could do it. I'm not trying to convince anyone that powdered protein mixed with water is better than nice grilled chicken breast. That was not my intention. All I wanted to do was to include my input on how to get ripped and to this tread.
BTW, these turkey burgers look amazing. Subscribed to the channel, I'm gonna try some of these recipes in a week when my 4 week period of drinking shakes is over. Btw lost 14lbs so far :D.
The Prince of DroneS
ieatkids5
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States4628 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-25 13:19:44
March 25 2013 13:18 GMT
#110
On March 25 2013 10:39 Zenbrez wrote:
@ ieatkids5, I forgot to mention, yeah I only drink water. I guess I'll have to cut out almond butter, which is unfortunate since I am in love with it.

IT SHALL BE DONE

you could always cut something else i love almond butter as well, and i sometimes have that or sunflower seed butter because im allergic to peanuts.

On March 25 2013 19:25 SixSongs wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On March 24 2013 17:49 ieatkids5 wrote:
i read through the diet and all the supplements and training. some questions/thoughts:
- how much does it cost for you to get all the supplements you need for that 4-week period? (im genuinely curious, not trying to be a dick here)
- do you get really hungry from only taking supplements and drinking those shakes?
- it's easy to be skeptical of something that advocates taking only supplements and powdered shakes for 4 weeks. why should i do this diet instead of getting my nutrients from actual food while maintaining a caloric deficit to lose weight?
- where can i find the actual workouts? i read through the description of the beginner, intermediate, and advanced workouts, but no actual workout schedule, what types of lifts and exercises...?

it seems like this program does indeed deliver results. and if you are someone who needs to follow a very specific program so that you dont "cheat," this seems great. however, if you are someone who has the discipline to maintain a caloric deficit on actual food, you should be able to get the same results without spending that much money.


Hi, I'm sorry I didn't get to you earlier.

Answers to you questions:
Q:
- how much does it cost for you to get all the supplements you need for that 4-week period? (im genuinely curious, not trying to be a dick here)
A: You are not being a dick, it's an obvious question with so many scams around the Internet. If I remember correctly it is around $500. I don't remember precisely but it's a little less than that and if u live in the continental US, the shipping is free. I know it seems like a lot of money, but you have to take into consideration that during that time you will not spend any money on any food except one HSM( Healthy Solid Meal) a week for the 4-week period, then one HSM a day for the next two weeks. You can look at it this way $500/6 weeks or 42 days= $11.9~$12/day. It's not that much considering how much an average person spends of food daily.

Q:
- do you get really hungry from only taking supplements and drinking those shakes?
A: I'll be honest with you, "You fuckin do ", Especially for the first few days. I mean, you are not used to drinking supplements all day instead of solid food. Nobody is. But it gets easier as days go by and you see progress. It's also a good test for your character, if you can actually do it. Like I said in the previous post, it's probably not the best or most optimal way but it works great. By week 2 you are amazed how much time do you have, especially in the morning since you don't need to prepare/eat food. And when Sat/Sunday is around the corner you are super happy cause you know that you can reward yourself with 1 HSM.

Q:
- it's easy to be skeptical of something that advocates taking only supplements and powdered shakes for 4 weeks. why should i do this diet instead of getting my nutrients from actual food while maintaining a caloric deficit to lose weight?
A: You are 100 % correct that actual whole foods are better for you, but this diet as it's called Velocity, is not for a long period of time, it's designed to shed that fat quickly and to motivate you to keep pushing yourself even further. I don't know the exact reasons for this, but the designers of the diet explain why go with the suppls on the website.

Q:
- where can i find the actual workouts? i read through the description of the beginner, intermediate, and advanced workouts, but no actual workout schedule, what types of lifts and exercises...?
A:
I'm posting few pictures with exact placement of the workouts. They include descriptions and videos so newcomers can see exactly what to do step by step.
[image loading]
1-You go to Velocity Training tab
2- Then you click on Training Program tab
[image loading]
3- Then you choose your level of gym experience
4- You can also download specific sheets for you to keep track.



thanks for all the info! now that i think about it, if one really needs to get rid of a lot of fat in a short amount of time, then it'd be difficult to still get all of your nutrients if you're eating a regular real food diet. sounds like a pretty cool experience to stick with it and see the results.
Adel
Profile Joined February 2011
Belgium86 Posts
March 25 2013 23:43 GMT
#111
On March 25 2013 19:33 SixSongs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2013 22:50 Adel wrote:
On March 24 2013 17:49 ieatkids5 wrote:
why should i do this diet instead of getting my nutrients from actual food while maintaining a caloric deficit to lose weight?


Same question here. It says that I'm supposed to eat about 1400 cal on non-workout days and 1800 cal on workout days.
Why not do the same but by eating actual food and supplements?

Btw ieatkids5 : when you use their calculator, they give you a link to buy their supplement package. It costs 430$ with free FedEx Shipping in USA/48.

On a side-note, Rob Riches prepares very tasty healthy meals and teaches you how to get them done yourself.
Check out this one, for example :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBUEUc8epuY


Awesome burgers!


You can do the same with actual food, I know that all you need is caloric deficit. But, like I said this diet is not for everyone, I wanted to try it and I wanted to test myself if I could do it. I'm not trying to convince anyone that powdered protein mixed with water is better than nice grilled chicken breast. That was not my intention. All I wanted to do was to include my input on how to get ripped and to this tread.
BTW, these turkey burgers look amazing. Subscribed to the channel, I'm gonna try some of these recipes in a week when my 4 week period of drinking shakes is over. Btw lost 14lbs so far :D.


Well, I don't really have 500$ to spend (I spend about 200$ in food every month, I'm still a student so... I don't have much money), so I can't try, but I'm quite sure I can do it pretty easily (I fast one month a year, from sunrise to sunset, so doing the same thing but being able to drink shouldn't be too much of a problem after the first two to three days).
I'm quite fond of shakes, easy to make, you just gotta drink them and you're done, not that many dishes to wash, ...
I'll try to save some money and try that.
14lbs in three weeks, that would be 2,1kg/week, which is in my opinion way too much. You're probably losing some muscle mass.
A good number to remember is that if you're fairly lean (so only a little bit of belly fat and some fat here and there), if you lose more than 1 pound/500g / week, you're likely losing some lean mass.
That's what my nutritionist says (and he knows his stuff... he also follows olympic athletes, and he's got a crapton of diploma). The most you can lose in a week without losing lean mass is 2 pounds/week, and even if you've got 20-30pounds to lose, you can't lose more than that.

You should subscribe to the following two channels : ProzisNutrition and RJRiches, many awesome vids. Love it.

I'm starting to have trouble coping with my diet. It's very difficult since I barely eat (only what's really necessary... not even half of what I usually eat I think), and yeah sure I'm losing some fat here and there but I feel like I'm never gonna get shredded. My motivation and morale are plummeting right now.
I weighed 68,8kgs on March 12th, and this morning (13 days later) I weighed 68,1kgs... I lost like .7 or .8lb/week... If it goes on steadily I'll reach 66kgs in exactly 6 weeks according to my calculator, and I'd be hoping that at 66kgs I'd be ripped, which doesn't seem believable seeing how much I still have to lose...

I don't have anything to motivate me outside of myself. I've fueled my workouts and extremely strict diet (though there've been variations in it, I've followed it strictly) with pure willpower (which is already very good tbh... I used to drink only regular coke, juice, ... all of those containing 10-15g/100ml in them, I used to be able to drink a 2L bottle of regular coke w/ I believe 12g sugar/100ml in maybe 4 hours, have pizza at every meal, breakfast with processed cereals that had added sugar, chocolate, etc in them, with whole milk, etc and changed in a single day to a 100% healthy diet and started working out at least 4 times/week, ...) but I really feel like my willpower's starting to run out.
I went through a really bad breakup 5 months ago (after a 3 and half years long relationship), failed my freshman year (6.5 months ago ; I started working out 2 tweeks later, I've been working out for 6months and 10 days), etc, and my morale's never been too high to begin with, I was really down at that time, I'm feeling better about myself now but it's still very difficult for me, I've barely had any social contacts for the past 6 months (I have close to no friends and live with 5 roommates but the only thing we say to each other is : "hey how you doin"... thinkin' about it, I have like one friend, that's it... I have maybe 3-4 other people in my life but they're more acquaintances that friends).

Anyway, dunno why I'm starting to say all this stuff... If I wanna tell the internet about my life I'll just post in the blog section, sorry 'bout that.
Anyone got any piece of advice they can give me to overcome this mental state? At least the "burnout willpower" part.
SixSongs
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Poland1455 Posts
March 26 2013 23:32 GMT
#112
On March 26 2013 08:43 Adel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2013 19:33 SixSongs wrote:
On March 24 2013 22:50 Adel wrote:
On March 24 2013 17:49 ieatkids5 wrote:
why should i do this diet instead of getting my nutrients from actual food while maintaining a caloric deficit to lose weight?


Same question here. It says that I'm supposed to eat about 1400 cal on non-workout days and 1800 cal on workout days.
Why not do the same but by eating actual food and supplements?

Btw ieatkids5 : when you use their calculator, they give you a link to buy their supplement package. It costs 430$ with free FedEx Shipping in USA/48.

On a side-note, Rob Riches prepares very tasty healthy meals and teaches you how to get them done yourself.
Check out this one, for example :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBUEUc8epuY


Awesome burgers!


You can do the same with actual food, I know that all you need is caloric deficit. But, like I said this diet is not for everyone, I wanted to try it and I wanted to test myself if I could do it. I'm not trying to convince anyone that powdered protein mixed with water is better than nice grilled chicken breast. That was not my intention. All I wanted to do was to include my input on how to get ripped and to this tread.
BTW, these turkey burgers look amazing. Subscribed to the channel, I'm gonna try some of these recipes in a week when my 4 week period of drinking shakes is over. Btw lost 14lbs so far :D.


Well, I don't really have 500$ to spend (I spend about 200$ in food every month, I'm still a student so... I don't have much money), so I can't try, but I'm quite sure I can do it pretty easily (I fast one month a year, from sunrise to sunset, so doing the same thing but being able to drink shouldn't be too much of a problem after the first two to three days).
I'm quite fond of shakes, easy to make, you just gotta drink them and you're done, not that many dishes to wash, ...
I'll try to save some money and try that.
14lbs in three weeks, that would be 2,1kg/week, which is in my opinion way too much. You're probably losing some muscle mass.
A good number to remember is that if you're fairly lean (so only a little bit of belly fat and some fat here and there), if you lose more than 1 pound/500g / week, you're likely losing some lean mass.
That's what my nutritionist says (and he knows his stuff... he also follows olympic athletes, and he's got a crapton of diploma). The most you can lose in a week without losing lean mass is 2 pounds/week, and even if you've got 20-30pounds to lose, you can't lose more than that.

You should subscribe to the following two channels : ProzisNutrition and RJRiches, many awesome vids. Love it.

I'm starting to have trouble coping with my diet. It's very difficult since I barely eat (only what's really necessary... not even half of what I usually eat I think), and yeah sure I'm losing some fat here and there but I feel like I'm never gonna get shredded. My motivation and morale are plummeting right now.
I weighed 68,8kgs on March 12th, and this morning (13 days later) I weighed 68,1kgs... I lost like .7 or .8lb/week... If it goes on steadily I'll reach 66kgs in exactly 6 weeks according to my calculator, and I'd be hoping that at 66kgs I'd be ripped, which doesn't seem believable seeing how much I still have to lose...

I don't have anything to motivate me outside of myself. I've fueled my workouts and extremely strict diet (though there've been variations in it, I've followed it strictly) with pure willpower (which is already very good tbh... I used to drink only regular coke, juice, ... all of those containing 10-15g/100ml in them, I used to be able to drink a 2L bottle of regular coke w/ I believe 12g sugar/100ml in maybe 4 hours, have pizza at every meal, breakfast with processed cereals that had added sugar, chocolate, etc in them, with whole milk, etc and changed in a single day to a 100% healthy diet and started working out at least 4 times/week, ...) but I really feel like my willpower's starting to run out.
I went through a really bad breakup 5 months ago (after a 3 and half years long relationship), failed my freshman year (6.5 months ago ; I started working out 2 tweeks later, I've been working out for 6months and 10 days), etc, and my morale's never been too high to begin with, I was really down at that time, I'm feeling better about myself now but it's still very difficult for me, I've barely had any social contacts for the past 6 months (I have close to no friends and live with 5 roommates but the only thing we say to each other is : "hey how you doin"... thinkin' about it, I have like one friend, that's it... I have maybe 3-4 other people in my life but they're more acquaintances that friends).

Anyway, dunno why I'm starting to say all this stuff... If I wanna tell the internet about my life I'll just post in the blog section, sorry 'bout that.
Anyone got any piece of advice they can give me to overcome this mental state? At least the "burnout willpower" part.


Hey Adel. You live in Belgium I assume. I just can't imagine how can you live off $200 a month which is like 155Euros, and that gives you around 39 Euros a week. I'm not saying it's impossible but it's gotta be fuckin hard. I don't mean to be a dick, but what do you eat, bird seeds ?
Anyways, I'm not here to convince anyone or sell this diet. Just wanted to add my 2 cents. As for your observation, regarding how much fat you can burn without loosing lean muscle mass, I'm not an expert, but I think that the authors of this diet thought about it too. It's prolly not healthy but if you need to loose fat quick it works. And I will leave it there.
Now, the most important part. Loosing your motivation and being discouraged with results. Well I got three words for you, Deal with it . I know it sounds harsh but you gotta stick to your goals.You will fail sometimes, we all do, but you just don't give up. Keep going, I'll be checking on you . As for the lack of friends, sometimes its a good think, cause friends can be toxic.I hope this motivates you a bit. BTW I was engaged and in a relationship for 5 years, and we broke up, and guess what, I met someone better . You will be aight mate. Take care of youself.

PS. Thx for the channels, subscribed :D.
The Prince of DroneS
Adel
Profile Joined February 2011
Belgium86 Posts
March 27 2013 00:26 GMT
#113
On March 27 2013 08:32 SixSongs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2013 08:43 Adel wrote:
On March 25 2013 19:33 SixSongs wrote:
On March 24 2013 22:50 Adel wrote:
On March 24 2013 17:49 ieatkids5 wrote:
why should i do this diet instead of getting my nutrients from actual food while maintaining a caloric deficit to lose weight?


Same question here. It says that I'm supposed to eat about 1400 cal on non-workout days and 1800 cal on workout days.
Why not do the same but by eating actual food and supplements?

Btw ieatkids5 : when you use their calculator, they give you a link to buy their supplement package. It costs 430$ with free FedEx Shipping in USA/48.

On a side-note, Rob Riches prepares very tasty healthy meals and teaches you how to get them done yourself.
Check out this one, for example :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBUEUc8epuY


Awesome burgers!


You can do the same with actual food, I know that all you need is caloric deficit. But, like I said this diet is not for everyone, I wanted to try it and I wanted to test myself if I could do it. I'm not trying to convince anyone that powdered protein mixed with water is better than nice grilled chicken breast. That was not my intention. All I wanted to do was to include my input on how to get ripped and to this tread.
BTW, these turkey burgers look amazing. Subscribed to the channel, I'm gonna try some of these recipes in a week when my 4 week period of drinking shakes is over. Btw lost 14lbs so far :D.


Well, I don't really have 500$ to spend (I spend about 200$ in food every month, I'm still a student so... I don't have much money), so I can't try, but I'm quite sure I can do it pretty easily (I fast one month a year, from sunrise to sunset, so doing the same thing but being able to drink shouldn't be too much of a problem after the first two to three days).
I'm quite fond of shakes, easy to make, you just gotta drink them and you're done, not that many dishes to wash, ...
I'll try to save some money and try that.
14lbs in three weeks, that would be 2,1kg/week, which is in my opinion way too much. You're probably losing some muscle mass.
A good number to remember is that if you're fairly lean (so only a little bit of belly fat and some fat here and there), if you lose more than 1 pound/500g / week, you're likely losing some lean mass.
That's what my nutritionist says (and he knows his stuff... he also follows olympic athletes, and he's got a crapton of diploma). The most you can lose in a week without losing lean mass is 2 pounds/week, and even if you've got 20-30pounds to lose, you can't lose more than that.

You should subscribe to the following two channels : ProzisNutrition and RJRiches, many awesome vids. Love it.

I'm starting to have trouble coping with my diet. It's very difficult since I barely eat (only what's really necessary... not even half of what I usually eat I think), and yeah sure I'm losing some fat here and there but I feel like I'm never gonna get shredded. My motivation and morale are plummeting right now.
I weighed 68,8kgs on March 12th, and this morning (13 days later) I weighed 68,1kgs... I lost like .7 or .8lb/week... If it goes on steadily I'll reach 66kgs in exactly 6 weeks according to my calculator, and I'd be hoping that at 66kgs I'd be ripped, which doesn't seem believable seeing how much I still have to lose...

I don't have anything to motivate me outside of myself. I've fueled my workouts and extremely strict diet (though there've been variations in it, I've followed it strictly) with pure willpower (which is already very good tbh... I used to drink only regular coke, juice, ... all of those containing 10-15g/100ml in them, I used to be able to drink a 2L bottle of regular coke w/ I believe 12g sugar/100ml in maybe 4 hours, have pizza at every meal, breakfast with processed cereals that had added sugar, chocolate, etc in them, with whole milk, etc and changed in a single day to a 100% healthy diet and started working out at least 4 times/week, ...) but I really feel like my willpower's starting to run out.
I went through a really bad breakup 5 months ago (after a 3 and half years long relationship), failed my freshman year (6.5 months ago ; I started working out 2 tweeks later, I've been working out for 6months and 10 days), etc, and my morale's never been too high to begin with, I was really down at that time, I'm feeling better about myself now but it's still very difficult for me, I've barely had any social contacts for the past 6 months (I have close to no friends and live with 5 roommates but the only thing we say to each other is : "hey how you doin"... thinkin' about it, I have like one friend, that's it... I have maybe 3-4 other people in my life but they're more acquaintances that friends).

Anyway, dunno why I'm starting to say all this stuff... If I wanna tell the internet about my life I'll just post in the blog section, sorry 'bout that.
Anyone got any piece of advice they can give me to overcome this mental state? At least the "burnout willpower" part.


Hey Adel. You live in Belgium I assume. I just can't imagine how can you live off $200 a month which is like 155Euros, and that gives you around 39 Euros a week. I'm not saying it's impossible but it's gotta be fuckin hard. I don't mean to be a dick, but what do you eat, bird seeds ?
Anyways, I'm not here to convince anyone or sell this diet. Just wanted to add my 2 cents. As for your observation, regarding how much fat you can burn without loosing lean muscle mass, I'm not an expert, but I think that the authors of this diet thought about it too. It's prolly not healthy but if you need to loose fat quick it works. And I will leave it there.
Now, the most important part. Loosing your motivation and being discouraged with results. Well I got three words for you, Deal with it . I know it sounds harsh but you gotta stick to your goals.You will fail sometimes, we all do, but you just don't give up. Keep going, I'll be checking on you . As for the lack of friends, sometimes its a good think, cause friends can be toxic.I hope this motivates you a bit. BTW I was engaged and in a relationship for 5 years, and we broke up, and guess what, I met someone better . You will be aight mate. Take care of youself.

PS. Thx for the channels, subscribed :D.


I do live in Belgium, as my TL profile states.
After paying my rent & stuff that's what I'm left with, so gotta go with it, right.
I'm really careful when I buy food and don't really have other expenses now that I've got everything I need for the various sports I do. I hardly go out, and since I don't eat chips, chocolate etc, and only drink water & milk, I can therefore save quite a bit of money.
And I'm on a 1000-1500 cal diet right now... I barely eat (only the necessary nutrients to allow my body to function properly). And as to when I'll be back on a 3-4000cal diet, 150-200€ get me by quite easily, I just have to buy almost exclusively cheap food but I'm a great cook so... taste & quality are still there.
I'm currently doing stuff for uni right now so I don't have enough time to discuss my usual diet, but I'll probably do that at some point.

Yeah, sure, I got your point about that diet. It probably works, it looks well built. And probably not healthy but I personally wouldn't care. Something's gotta kill you at some point, right? I'd rather enjoy my youth as much as I can and die at 60, than restricting myself a lot to die at 80. Anyway, off-topic.
I suppose that's the amount of fat you can burn while still eating healthy amounts of food. I guess it's possible to lose more quicker if you keep a 1000-1500cal diet, and the fact that it's for a short time span (like what, 3 weeks?) allows you to do that without damaging (too much?) your health.
I'm doing a diet quite close to yours, but with some "real" food (very little though). About the same amount of calories.

Regarding the motivation thing... I'll keep working out & dieting & stuff even if I lose some of my motivation. My whole life, I've only had two positive aspects that lasted : I have an iron will that allows me to lift mountains if my goals require it, and I'll keep the other one for myself, because it'd sound like useless bragging (can tell in pm if anyone wants to know... but I doubt anyone cares).
I don't have many friends because I've never let anyone drag me and push me into doing things I didn't want to do. Most people perceive this as being "not funny" or whatever, I don't really care about these people.
I'm sure I'll meet someone worth it someday, I just sometimes wish it'd happen quickly, because I can get very lonely, but it doesn't last too long ('til the next workout, usually).
The fact that some random guy I met on the internet cares enough to tell me "it's gonna be alright, take care of yourself" does feel somewhat nice. Thanks. (I think that people see me as a guy that's never down because I don't show my sadness, so I suppose they don't see the fact that I need kindness... anyway that's how I explain why noone ever does anything for me out of pure kindness.)

Gotta keep working (even though I don't wanna 'cause it messes with my sleep and my recovery... T_T).
See you around

PS : you're most welcome
PSbis : I'm not sure whether they ship to Poland, but www.prozis.com is a great website. Cheapest prices I've ever seen, extremely quick delivery (like really ... I ordered a couple things last Monday at 4am, and by last Tuesday 2pm I'd received it... 24hour delivery and almost instant order packaging... was shocked to see the deliveryman so quickly)... you should check it out
LovE-
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1963 Posts
March 27 2013 00:59 GMT
#114
Well, this sucks. Me and a buddy of mine made a challenge that whoever doesn't have a 6 pack by June 15 gets punched in the face.

... Time for me to truly dedicate myself :| Any tips?
LovE.311 (NA) || @LovE_Sc2
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
March 27 2013 01:19 GMT
#115
eat less....
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-27 01:57:28
March 27 2013 01:53 GMT
#116
On March 27 2013 09:59 LovE- wrote:
Well, this sucks. Me and a buddy of mine made a challenge that whoever doesn't have a 6 pack by June 15 gets punched in the face.

... Time for me to truly dedicate myself :| Any tips?



try a cyclic low carb. You can play around with it....like 4 days low carb and then eat carbs on the 5th day.
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
ieatkids5
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States4628 Posts
March 27 2013 02:00 GMT
#117
On March 27 2013 09:59 LovE- wrote:
Well, this sucks. Me and a buddy of mine made a challenge that whoever doesn't have a 6 pack by June 15 gets punched in the face.

... Time for me to truly dedicate myself :| Any tips?

read this thread lol

jkjk~
although i've never been on a cut myself, here's what i've learned from TLHF
- eat 300-500kcal below maintenance, more if you need to lose fat more quickly
- keep lifting heavy, as frequently as your normal routine, but decrease the volume
- HIIT is also good for losing fat, but you probably wont be able to do both heavy lifting and HIIT if you're cutting
- feel free to take some supplements if you're not getting all your nutrients from not eating enough
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
March 27 2013 02:11 GMT
#118
On March 27 2013 11:00 ieatkids5 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2013 09:59 LovE- wrote:
Well, this sucks. Me and a buddy of mine made a challenge that whoever doesn't have a 6 pack by June 15 gets punched in the face.

... Time for me to truly dedicate myself :| Any tips?

read this thread lol

jkjk~
although i've never been on a cut myself, here's what i've learned from TLHF
- eat 300-500kcal below maintenance, more if you need to lose fat more quickly
- keep lifting heavy, as frequently as your normal routine, but decrease the volume
- HIIT is also good for losing fat, but you probably wont be able to do both heavy lifting and HIIT if you're cutting
- feel free to take some supplements if you're not getting all your nutrients from not eating enough



I dont really think it matters if you eat below maintenance to lose fat. Eating more meat + less carbs will lean u out really quickly.

I probably ate more calories when I leaned out since I just ate alot more meat.
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
LovE-
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1963 Posts
March 27 2013 03:15 GMT
#119
Haha yeah I know I've followed this thread since it started so I have a pretty good idea. But that cyclic low carb idea DimSum seems interesting and I think I'll try it out for a couple weeks. Thanks!
LovE.311 (NA) || @LovE_Sc2
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
March 27 2013 05:32 GMT
#120
On March 27 2013 11:00 ieatkids5 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2013 09:59 LovE- wrote:
Well, this sucks. Me and a buddy of mine made a challenge that whoever doesn't have a 6 pack by June 15 gets punched in the face.

... Time for me to truly dedicate myself :| Any tips?

read this thread lol

jkjk~
although i've never been on a cut myself, here's what i've learned from TLHF
- eat 300-500kcal below maintenance, more if you need to lose fat more quickly
- keep lifting heavy, as frequently as your normal routine, but decrease the volume
- HIIT is also good for losing fat, but you probably wont be able to do both heavy lifting and HIIT if you're cutting
- feel free to take some supplements if you're not getting all your nutrients from not eating enough

or do this

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