On March 27 2013 12:15 LovE- wrote: Haha yeah I know I've followed this thread since it started so I have a pretty good idea. But that cyclic low carb idea DimSum seems interesting and I think I'll try it out for a couple weeks. Thanks!
Look at Layne Norton's Cutting guide on simplyshredded.com; heard great things and I'm doing it atm. You could also incorporate a 16 hour fast. Just eat TDEE-700 cals in 25%p/20%f/rest/55%c and you should shred fat fast.
On March 27 2013 12:15 LovE- wrote: Haha yeah I know I've followed this thread since it started so I have a pretty good idea. But that cyclic low carb idea DimSum seems interesting and I think I'll try it out for a couple weeks. Thanks!
Look at Layne Norton's Cutting guide on simplyshredded.com; heard great things and I'm doing it atm. You could also incorporate a 16 hour fast. Just eat TDEE-700 cals in 25%p/20%f/rest/55%c and you should shred fat fast.
Great website, thanks for the link. Cutting guide looks very interesting. I will definitely give a try someday.
On March 27 2013 09:59 LovE- wrote: Well, this sucks. Me and a buddy of mine made a challenge that whoever doesn't have a 6 pack by June 15 gets punched in the face.
... Time for me to truly dedicate myself :| Any tips?
read this thread lol
jkjk~ although i've never been on a cut myself, here's what i've learned from TLHF - eat 300-500kcal below maintenance, more if you need to lose fat more quickly - keep lifting heavy, as frequently as your normal routine, but decrease the volume - HIIT is also good for losing fat, but you probably wont be able to do both heavy lifting and HIIT if you're cutting - feel free to take some supplements if you're not getting all your nutrients from not eating enough
I dont really think it matters if you eat below maintenance to lose fat. Eating more meat + less carbs will lean u out really quickly.
I probably ate more calories when I leaned out since I just ate alot more meat.
On March 28 2013 07:55 sJarl wrote: Just a small note: most of you don't even need to cut, only "bulk" a little cleaner.
True story. I made an edit on the original post because I'm sure there are some people thinking of 'cutting' when really they shouldn't.
I made the mistake of bulking on a lot of junk during the winter. I was curious to try it out lol..and my strength increased a lot but it wasn't worth it. I still kept my abs, but I looked bulky..not lean. That's why I started 'cutting' a lot sooner than normal.
For those of you wondering how it could look bad if I still had abs.. well, I think that once you have enough muscle mass, you can have abs at a higher body fat.. like 15-17%, maybe more.. but it just doesn't look good at all.
On March 27 2013 09:59 LovE- wrote: Well, this sucks. Me and a buddy of mine made a challenge that whoever doesn't have a 6 pack by June 15 gets punched in the face.
... Time for me to truly dedicate myself :| Any tips?
read this thread lol
jkjk~ although i've never been on a cut myself, here's what i've learned from TLHF - eat 300-500kcal below maintenance, more if you need to lose fat more quickly - keep lifting heavy, as frequently as your normal routine, but decrease the volume - HIIT is also good for losing fat, but you probably wont be able to do both heavy lifting and HIIT if you're cutting - feel free to take some supplements if you're not getting all your nutrients from not eating enough
I dont really think it matters if you eat below maintenance to lose fat. Eating more meat + less carbs will lean u out really quickly.
I probably ate more calories when I leaned out since I just ate alot more meat.
On March 27 2013 09:59 LovE- wrote: Well, this sucks. Me and a buddy of mine made a challenge that whoever doesn't have a 6 pack by June 15 gets punched in the face.
... Time for me to truly dedicate myself :| Any tips?
read this thread lol
jkjk~ although i've never been on a cut myself, here's what i've learned from TLHF - eat 300-500kcal below maintenance, more if you need to lose fat more quickly - keep lifting heavy, as frequently as your normal routine, but decrease the volume - HIIT is also good for losing fat, but you probably wont be able to do both heavy lifting and HIIT if you're cutting - feel free to take some supplements if you're not getting all your nutrients from not eating enough
I dont really think it matters if you eat below maintenance to lose fat. Eating more meat + less carbs will lean u out really quickly.
I probably ate more calories when I leaned out since I just ate alot more meat.
well yeah...Im not saying to stuff your face with food, its just easier to not count calories. Just look in the mirror and see the results.
I'm just going by my own experience. I actually low carb for heath reasons, but I just leaned out by doing it.
This is how I function as well. I'm 6'1" 200lbs with 10% bf. I have never cut, drink whole milk, and have at least one if not more "cheat meals" a day. I might consider cutting in the future, but as of now I'm happy with my body and it allows me to continue gaining.
On March 27 2013 09:59 LovE- wrote: Well, this sucks. Me and a buddy of mine made a challenge that whoever doesn't have a 6 pack by June 15 gets punched in the face.
... Time for me to truly dedicate myself :| Any tips?
read this thread lol
jkjk~ although i've never been on a cut myself, here's what i've learned from TLHF - eat 300-500kcal below maintenance, more if you need to lose fat more quickly - keep lifting heavy, as frequently as your normal routine, but decrease the volume - HIIT is also good for losing fat, but you probably wont be able to do both heavy lifting and HIIT if you're cutting - feel free to take some supplements if you're not getting all your nutrients from not eating enough
I dont really think it matters if you eat below maintenance to lose fat. Eating more meat + less carbs will lean u out really quickly.
I probably ate more calories when I leaned out since I just ate alot more meat.
well yeah...Im not saying to stuff your face with food, its just easier to not count calories. Just look in the mirror and see the results.
I'm just going by my own experience. I actually low carb for heath reasons, but I just leaned out by doing it.
This is how I function as well. I'm 6'1" 200lbs with 10% bf. I have never cut, drink whole milk, and have at least one if not more "cheat meals" a day. I might consider cutting in the future, but as of now I'm happy with my body and it allows me to continue gaining.
My university has a sonogram machine that's hooked up to some computer system that tests it. They run it along three areas: your outer thigh, abs, and upper chest. The only other methods I know of are using calipers and something about displacement while submerged in water.
On March 27 2013 09:59 LovE- wrote: Well, this sucks. Me and a buddy of mine made a challenge that whoever doesn't have a 6 pack by June 15 gets punched in the face.
... Time for me to truly dedicate myself :| Any tips?
read this thread lol
jkjk~ although i've never been on a cut myself, here's what i've learned from TLHF - eat 300-500kcal below maintenance, more if you need to lose fat more quickly - keep lifting heavy, as frequently as your normal routine, but decrease the volume - HIIT is also good for losing fat, but you probably wont be able to do both heavy lifting and HIIT if you're cutting - feel free to take some supplements if you're not getting all your nutrients from not eating enough
I dont really think it matters if you eat below maintenance to lose fat. Eating more meat + less carbs will lean u out really quickly.
I probably ate more calories when I leaned out since I just ate alot more meat.
well yeah...Im not saying to stuff your face with food, its just easier to not count calories. Just look in the mirror and see the results.
I'm just going by my own experience. I actually low carb for heath reasons, but I just leaned out by doing it.
This is how I function as well. I'm 6'1" 200lbs with 10% bf. I have never cut, drink whole milk, and have at least one if not more "cheat meals" a day. I might consider cutting in the future, but as of now I'm happy with my body and it allows me to continue gaining.
No wonder you're happy w/ your body. 91kgs and only 10% body fat, it's quite impressive.
On March 27 2013 09:59 LovE- wrote: Well, this sucks. Me and a buddy of mine made a challenge that whoever doesn't have a 6 pack by June 15 gets punched in the face.
... Time for me to truly dedicate myself :| Any tips?
read this thread lol
jkjk~ although i've never been on a cut myself, here's what i've learned from TLHF - eat 300-500kcal below maintenance, more if you need to lose fat more quickly - keep lifting heavy, as frequently as your normal routine, but decrease the volume - HIIT is also good for losing fat, but you probably wont be able to do both heavy lifting and HIIT if you're cutting - feel free to take some supplements if you're not getting all your nutrients from not eating enough
I dont really think it matters if you eat below maintenance to lose fat. Eating more meat + less carbs will lean u out really quickly.
I probably ate more calories when I leaned out since I just ate alot more meat.
well yeah...Im not saying to stuff your face with food, its just easier to not count calories. Just look in the mirror and see the results.
I'm just going by my own experience. I actually low carb for heath reasons, but I just leaned out by doing it.
This is how I function as well. I'm 6'1" 200lbs with 10% bf. I have never cut, drink whole milk, and have at least one if not more "cheat meals" a day. I might consider cutting in the future, but as of now I'm happy with my body and it allows me to continue gaining.
200 pounds with 10% body fat
what are you, a body builder? shit
At my most ripped i was around 6'1 200 lbs ~10% bf. Definitely nowhere near body builder status but was pretty cut. I miss it a little bit (lol i'm like 20 pounds heavier now and maybe 5% more fat. wait no way thatd mean i put on like 13 pounds of fat. ahhh i'm a fatty. time to cut. in retrospect i probably used to be around 12 and am now 15%)
Wow, you are exactly as tall as I am, but I could never get to 10% body fat with 200 lbs. Right now I'm around 180ish and Im around 14-15%. You had to have a lot of muscle mass. JELOUS
On March 27 2013 09:59 LovE- wrote: Well, this sucks. Me and a buddy of mine made a challenge that whoever doesn't have a 6 pack by June 15 gets punched in the face.
... Time for me to truly dedicate myself :| Any tips?
read this thread lol
jkjk~ although i've never been on a cut myself, here's what i've learned from TLHF - eat 300-500kcal below maintenance, more if you need to lose fat more quickly - keep lifting heavy, as frequently as your normal routine, but decrease the volume - HIIT is also good for losing fat, but you probably wont be able to do both heavy lifting and HIIT if you're cutting - feel free to take some supplements if you're not getting all your nutrients from not eating enough
I dont really think it matters if you eat below maintenance to lose fat. Eating more meat + less carbs will lean u out really quickly.
I probably ate more calories when I leaned out since I just ate alot more meat.
well yeah...Im not saying to stuff your face with food, its just easier to not count calories. Just look in the mirror and see the results.
I'm just going by my own experience. I actually low carb for heath reasons, but I just leaned out by doing it.
This is how I function as well. I'm 6'1" 200lbs with 10% bf. I have never cut, drink whole milk, and have at least one if not more "cheat meals" a day. I might consider cutting in the future, but as of now I'm happy with my body and it allows me to continue gaining.
No wonder you're happy w/ your body. 91kgs and only 10% body fat, it's quite impressive.
Honestly, I think it really depends on the person and the amount of body mass they have. I'm 15, 5'7 and 140 lbs w/ 10% body fat and definitely look lean and you can see my triceps and back muscles and stuff, but I wouldn't say that I have a six pack at all. Maybe that's cause I'm not done with puberty yet (although I don't know what that would really have to do with it), but I think 10% of body fat just looks different on different people. I also come from a family where everybody is stocky, short, strong but with not really well defined muscles, so I guess genetics could also come into play.
On March 27 2013 09:59 LovE- wrote: Well, this sucks. Me and a buddy of mine made a challenge that whoever doesn't have a 6 pack by June 15 gets punched in the face.
... Time for me to truly dedicate myself :| Any tips?
read this thread lol
jkjk~ although i've never been on a cut myself, here's what i've learned from TLHF - eat 300-500kcal below maintenance, more if you need to lose fat more quickly - keep lifting heavy, as frequently as your normal routine, but decrease the volume - HIIT is also good for losing fat, but you probably wont be able to do both heavy lifting and HIIT if you're cutting - feel free to take some supplements if you're not getting all your nutrients from not eating enough
I dont really think it matters if you eat below maintenance to lose fat. Eating more meat + less carbs will lean u out really quickly.
I probably ate more calories when I leaned out since I just ate alot more meat.
well yeah...Im not saying to stuff your face with food, its just easier to not count calories. Just look in the mirror and see the results.
I'm just going by my own experience. I actually low carb for heath reasons, but I just leaned out by doing it.
This is how I function as well. I'm 6'1" 200lbs with 10% bf. I have never cut, drink whole milk, and have at least one if not more "cheat meals" a day. I might consider cutting in the future, but as of now I'm happy with my body and it allows me to continue gaining.
No wonder you're happy w/ your body. 91kgs and only 10% body fat, it's quite impressive.
I look nothing like the 14-15% or the 20-22% lol. Maybe its cause im not oiled up and tanned.
How do you guys recommend deal with drinking alcohol while on some sort of calorie counting. It is impossible to stay under what you want and get drunk unless your either a mega light weight or you don't eat all day. Is it better to just add in some cardio or something the next day to burn off the extra calories you drank.
For reference 8 beers @ 150 calories is 1200 calories. Which is like half my calories for the day.
On March 27 2013 09:59 LovE- wrote: Well, this sucks. Me and a buddy of mine made a challenge that whoever doesn't have a 6 pack by June 15 gets punched in the face.
... Time for me to truly dedicate myself :| Any tips?
read this thread lol
jkjk~ although i've never been on a cut myself, here's what i've learned from TLHF - eat 300-500kcal below maintenance, more if you need to lose fat more quickly - keep lifting heavy, as frequently as your normal routine, but decrease the volume - HIIT is also good for losing fat, but you probably wont be able to do both heavy lifting and HIIT if you're cutting - feel free to take some supplements if you're not getting all your nutrients from not eating enough
I dont really think it matters if you eat below maintenance to lose fat. Eating more meat + less carbs will lean u out really quickly.
I probably ate more calories when I leaned out since I just ate alot more meat.
well yeah...Im not saying to stuff your face with food, its just easier to not count calories. Just look in the mirror and see the results.
I'm just going by my own experience. I actually low carb for heath reasons, but I just leaned out by doing it.
This is how I function as well. I'm 6'1" 200lbs with 10% bf. I have never cut, drink whole milk, and have at least one if not more "cheat meals" a day. I might consider cutting in the future, but as of now I'm happy with my body and it allows me to continue gaining.
No wonder you're happy w/ your body. 91kgs and only 10% body fat, it's quite impressive.
Honestly, I think it really depends on the person and the amount of body mass they have. I'm 15, 5'7 and 140 lbs w/ 10% body fat and definitely look lean and you can see my triceps and back muscles and stuff, but I wouldn't say that I have a six pack at all. Maybe that's cause I'm not done with puberty yet (although I don't know what that would really have to do with it), but I think 10% of body fat just looks different on different people. I also come from a family where everybody is stocky, short, strong but with not really well defined muscles, so I guess genetics could also come into play.
What makes you say you have 10% body fat?
Btw I look very fit & lean, my pecs are seen through my tshirts, are starting to be fairly defined, and you can ofc see my triceps, starting to have very defined biceps, back muscles etc. I'm getting there. My upper abs can be seen too, especially my obliques. Genetics do come into play, unfortunately (I've got a genetic tendency to obesity, which I'm trying really hard to counteract).
It's just not the same when I lift up my tshirt. I mean, noone would even think that I'm fat or chubby or anything, but I've already traveled so far... I really wanna go the extra mile and get those abs to show up! Haven't trained them too much since I started working out... I've changed that, though, and results were immediate.
Btw, I've got a question. Are you guys hairy? If you are, do you shave your chest? Legs? Do you wax your chest or legs? I'm starting to have defined quads, but since I'm fairly hairy, they can't be seen yet, unfortunately. Wouldn't wanna wax my legs, though... It'd look soooo weird But I'm seriously thinking about waxing my chest, so... what do you think?
@Mementoss : just don't drink, or maybe just one beer... 8 is overkill. If you wanna get drunk that much, go for something stronger. But alcohol is your enemy, especially if you're trying to get anything done, workout-wise. Check out this video, though :
I don't drink, but it seems like a good choice if you do?
On March 27 2013 09:59 LovE- wrote: Well, this sucks. Me and a buddy of mine made a challenge that whoever doesn't have a 6 pack by June 15 gets punched in the face.
... Time for me to truly dedicate myself :| Any tips?
read this thread lol
jkjk~ although i've never been on a cut myself, here's what i've learned from TLHF - eat 300-500kcal below maintenance, more if you need to lose fat more quickly - keep lifting heavy, as frequently as your normal routine, but decrease the volume - HIIT is also good for losing fat, but you probably wont be able to do both heavy lifting and HIIT if you're cutting - feel free to take some supplements if you're not getting all your nutrients from not eating enough
I dont really think it matters if you eat below maintenance to lose fat. Eating more meat + less carbs will lean u out really quickly.
I probably ate more calories when I leaned out since I just ate alot more meat.
well yeah...Im not saying to stuff your face with food, its just easier to not count calories. Just look in the mirror and see the results.
I'm just going by my own experience. I actually low carb for heath reasons, but I just leaned out by doing it.
This is how I function as well. I'm 6'1" 200lbs with 10% bf. I have never cut, drink whole milk, and have at least one if not more "cheat meals" a day. I might consider cutting in the future, but as of now I'm happy with my body and it allows me to continue gaining.
No wonder you're happy w/ your body. 91kgs and only 10% body fat, it's quite impressive.
I look nothing like the 14-15% or the 20-22% lol. Maybe its cause im not oiled up and tanned.
How do you guys recommend deal with drinking alcohol while on some sort of calorie counting. It is impossible to stay under what you want and get drunk unless your either a mega light weight or you don't eat all day. Is it better to just add in some cardio or something the next day to burn off the extra calories you drank.
For reference 8 beers @ 150 calories is 1200 calories. Which is like half my calories for the day.
Note that of all sources of energy alcohol has by far the greatest thermic effect of feeding, meaning that your body has to spend considerable resources breaking it down. So while it is true that a beer may have 150 calories, its effective value will be considerably lower.
That said, you should not be able to fit 8 beers into your cutting macros, so there is no point trying. I would cut out all carbs for the day, or for the next day, as a form of damage control but in the end you are going to have to accept that drinking that much alcohol will have a negative effect on your efforts, thats ok though if you can live with that.
On March 27 2013 09:59 LovE- wrote: Well, this sucks. Me and a buddy of mine made a challenge that whoever doesn't have a 6 pack by June 15 gets punched in the face.
... Time for me to truly dedicate myself :| Any tips?
read this thread lol
jkjk~ although i've never been on a cut myself, here's what i've learned from TLHF - eat 300-500kcal below maintenance, more if you need to lose fat more quickly - keep lifting heavy, as frequently as your normal routine, but decrease the volume - HIIT is also good for losing fat, but you probably wont be able to do both heavy lifting and HIIT if you're cutting - feel free to take some supplements if you're not getting all your nutrients from not eating enough
I dont really think it matters if you eat below maintenance to lose fat. Eating more meat + less carbs will lean u out really quickly.
I probably ate more calories when I leaned out since I just ate alot more meat.
well yeah...Im not saying to stuff your face with food, its just easier to not count calories. Just look in the mirror and see the results.
I'm just going by my own experience. I actually low carb for heath reasons, but I just leaned out by doing it.
This is how I function as well. I'm 6'1" 200lbs with 10% bf. I have never cut, drink whole milk, and have at least one if not more "cheat meals" a day. I might consider cutting in the future, but as of now I'm happy with my body and it allows me to continue gaining.
No wonder you're happy w/ your body. 91kgs and only 10% body fat, it's quite impressive.
Honestly, I think it really depends on the person and the amount of body mass they have. I'm 15, 5'7 and 140 lbs w/ 10% body fat and definitely look lean and you can see my triceps and back muscles and stuff, but I wouldn't say that I have a six pack at all. Maybe that's cause I'm not done with puberty yet (although I don't know what that would really have to do with it), but I think 10% of body fat just looks different on different people. I also come from a family where everybody is stocky, short, strong but with not really well defined muscles, so I guess genetics could also come into play.
What makes you say you have 10% body fat?
Btw I look very fit & lean, my pecs are seen through my tshirts, are starting to be fairly defined, and you can ofc see my triceps, starting to have very defined biceps, back muscles etc. I'm getting there. My upper abs can be seen too, especially my obliques. Genetics do come into play, unfortunately (I've got a genetic tendency to obesity, which I'm trying really hard to counteract).
It's just not the same when I lift up my tshirt. I mean, noone would even think that I'm fat or chubby or anything, but I've already traveled so far... I really wanna go the extra mile and get those abs to show up! Haven't trained them too much since I started working out... I've changed that, though, and results were immediate
I've used a couple different body fat calculators (obviously not the most accurate things ever), and I've taken a couple skin fold tests.
I mean, my muscles are defined and stick out, but I don't have a six pack or anything. And most of the pictures show people with huge abs at 10% when in reality most people don't start having definition there til ~10% and don't have full six packs until 8% or so (at least from what I've read/seen).
And I would have to say the same about myself. You can see my muscles in my back, triceps, biceps, anterior deltoids, and decently in my chest, but I definitely don't have a six pack like those pictures with guys at "10% body fat." I would have to say those pictures are basically not accurate at all.
I would say that if you subtract 2% from each value that the picture says, that's when you'll actually look like that.
On March 27 2013 09:59 LovE- wrote: Well, this sucks. Me and a buddy of mine made a challenge that whoever doesn't have a 6 pack by June 15 gets punched in the face.
... Time for me to truly dedicate myself :| Any tips?
read this thread lol
jkjk~ although i've never been on a cut myself, here's what i've learned from TLHF - eat 300-500kcal below maintenance, more if you need to lose fat more quickly - keep lifting heavy, as frequently as your normal routine, but decrease the volume - HIIT is also good for losing fat, but you probably wont be able to do both heavy lifting and HIIT if you're cutting - feel free to take some supplements if you're not getting all your nutrients from not eating enough
I dont really think it matters if you eat below maintenance to lose fat. Eating more meat + less carbs will lean u out really quickly.
I probably ate more calories when I leaned out since I just ate alot more meat.
well yeah...Im not saying to stuff your face with food, its just easier to not count calories. Just look in the mirror and see the results.
I'm just going by my own experience. I actually low carb for heath reasons, but I just leaned out by doing it.
This is how I function as well. I'm 6'1" 200lbs with 10% bf. I have never cut, drink whole milk, and have at least one if not more "cheat meals" a day. I might consider cutting in the future, but as of now I'm happy with my body and it allows me to continue gaining.
No wonder you're happy w/ your body. 91kgs and only 10% body fat, it's quite impressive.
I look nothing like the 14-15% or the 20-22% lol. Maybe its cause im not oiled up and tanned.
How do you guys recommend deal with drinking alcohol while on some sort of calorie counting. It is impossible to stay under what you want and get drunk unless your either a mega light weight or you don't eat all day. Is it better to just add in some cardio or something the next day to burn off the extra calories you drank.
For reference 8 beers @ 150 calories is 1200 calories. Which is like half my calories for the day.
Note that of all sources of energy alcohol has by far the greatest thermic effect of feeding, meaning that your body has to spend considerable resources breaking it down. So while it is true that a beer may have 150 calories, its effective value will be considerably lower.
That said, you should not be able to fit 8 beers into your cutting macros, so there is no point trying. I would cut out all carbs for the day, or for the next day, as a form of damage control but in the end you are going to have to accept that drinking that much alcohol will have a negative effect on your efforts, thats ok though if you can live with that.
I read something in a bodybuilding magazine that said that you should be careful with carbs if you're gonna drink, and that you should eat loads of protein and a bit of fat. They said something about equal or lower than 1g/kg of carbs, any amount of protein and fat to not gain too much fat
edit: holy shit its my birthday.. had completely forgot :O
EPT
(lol i'm like 20 pounds heavier now and maybe 5% more fat. wait no way thatd mean i put on like 13 pounds of fat. ahhh i'm a fatty. time to cut. in retrospect i probably used to be around 12 and am now 15%)
