EPTFormula 1 - 2013 - Page 82
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Zaros
United Kingdom3692 Posts
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SpaNiarD
Spain351 Posts
Nice job by Bottas again and Grosjean did it pretty well too | ||
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Lonyo
United Kingdom3884 Posts
The FIA and Bernie have done a great job. | ||
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Salazarz
Korea (South)2591 Posts
On April 23 2014 00:20 Aristodemus wrote: Who is to say that Vettel, Hamilton or Alonso wouldn't have won the title in that car? That Lotus was awesome. Kimi lost his motivation (imo) when he signed that £30m pa Ferrari deal and married a supermodel. He was consistently much, much better than Grosjean in the same Lotus (not to say that Grosjean is a superstar, but he's a decent mid-tier driver when he isn't busy crashing into things, and Kimi outshined him pretty much every time). Also about Lotus being 'awesome', it was a decent car but not definitely better nor even as good as the other top 3 cars, sorry. | ||
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Lonyo
United Kingdom3884 Posts
On May 11 2014 00:12 Salazarz wrote: He was consistently much, much better than Grosjean in the same Lotus (not to say that Grosjean is a superstar, but he's a decent mid-tier driver when he isn't busy crashing into things, and Kimi outshined him pretty much every time). Also about Lotus being 'awesome', it was a decent car but not definitely better nor even as good as the other top 3 cars, sorry. He was consistently much better for the first half of the season. Grosjean was great in the second half and more than matched Raikkonen. 4-3 to Grosjean in qualifying, 3-1 in races from Belgium (excluding retirements) for the 7 races from Belgium. 8-2 in qualifying and 7-1 in races to Raikkonen for the first half of the season (first 10 races) | ||
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Aristodemus
England2010 Posts
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Lonyo
United Kingdom3884 Posts
On March 29 2014 22:05 Zaros wrote: its only been 1 race and 2 qualifyings so far and red bull were pretty close this time. Too early to say mercedes are dominating. How about now? Absolutely nothing has changed since 1 race and 2 qualifyings. It wasn't too early to say then at all, since there's restricted engine development and everyone else with a Mercedes engine either has a limited budget or is just full of idiots (McLaren). But it's awesome because Red Bull aren't winning! So close. | ||
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Aristodemus
England2010 Posts
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Zaros
United Kingdom3692 Posts
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Chewits
Northern Ireland1200 Posts
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FireSA
Australia555 Posts
And now I am definitely biased, but Vettel was the driver of the race for me. Not a good track for overtaking. And he did plenty of that. Gave him a chance to show that he's not just good from the front, which is what a lot of people were saying last year. Glad to see Ricciardo get a podium he'll actually hold on to this time  Fingers crossed Red Bull continues to improve, and we might get an actual season out of this by the end. | ||
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Lonyo
United Kingdom3884 Posts
Force India, Lotus, McLaren and Williams get to fight for 4th. Also, it's hilarious how they are still talking about cost cutting. There's one easy way to give the little teams more money and reduce the spending of the top teams, and that's to redistribute the prize money. When the top teams get $50m less prize money, magically they will spend $25m less, and then the lower teams can get an extra $25m to be more able to compete. | ||
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Chewits
Northern Ireland1200 Posts
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affenmann
22 Posts
I would really hate it. | ||
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Release
United States4397 Posts
Some fallout b/w Kimi, Ferrari, and Alonso. Tbh, Kimi was actually quite uncooperative for holding up Alonso all race. In clear air, Alonso was faster than Kimi, although Kimi managed his tyres slightly better. In hindsight, I don't think that either Ferrari should have lost to Vettel. If Ferrari had ordered Kimi to move out at the start of the race (and given Kimi the 3-stop strategy), 4-5-6-7 would probably have been Alonso-Raikkonen-Vettel-Bottas instead of Vettel-Bottas-Alonso-Raikkonen. | ||
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lord_nibbler
Germany591 Posts
On May 16 2014 14:27 Release wrote: Not true, not true at all.In clear air, Alonso was faster than Kimi, although Kimi managed his tyres slightly better. In hindsight, I don't think that either Ferrari should have lost to Vettel. How so? Alonso had the optimal strategy and was still passed easily.If Ferrari had ordered Kimi to move out at the start of the race (and given Kimi the 3-stop strategy), 4-5-6-7 would probably have been Alonso-Raikkonen-Vettel-Bottas instead of Vettel-Bottas-Alonso-Raikkonen. Kimi was undercut two times by his teammate and given the slower strategy on top of it, even though he was in front and slightly faster the whole weekend.Alonso gets preferred treatment (probably because it is his home GP) and still Kimi is at fault for ruining Alonso's race. Talk about delusional... | ||
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drkcid
Spain196 Posts
Ferrari should have kept Alonso with 2 stops and let him doing the yolo stream of 31 laps on hard tires like Grosjean did, what have could go wrong? loosing the drivers championship? xDDD | ||
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Aristodemus
England2010 Posts
Changing the subject slightly, I think we saw Vettel getting over whatever problems he has been having and that the RB will at least be able to compete with Merc very soon, Monaco should be a strong weekend for them. | ||
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Release
United States4397 Posts
On May 16 2014 18:11 lord_nibbler wrote: Alonso followed Raikkonen within a second for the entire first stint which probably trashed his tyres. He followed Raikkonen within 2 seconds for his second stint which probably trashed his tyres again. What are you talking about? Not true, not true at all. How so? Alonso had the optimal strategy and was still passed easily. Because Vettel only finished 11 seconds ahead of Alonso. Vettel would have been faster but would have never caught Alonso. | ||
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Aristodemus
England2010 Posts
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