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fusefuse
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Estonia4644 Posts
April 22 2014 15:21 GMT
#1601
it was evident that he lost his motivation after winning the world championship, but not the habit/desire of being in F1 & racing. He just doesn't seem to be willing to strive as hard towards an ever more elusive goal of another championship
Liquipedia@jkursk
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
April 22 2014 15:35 GMT
#1602
If he carries on like he is he won't be in F1 next year, i predict some big changes in driver lineups, Rosberg might leave Mercedes if Hamilton keeps outperforming him, Vettel has been with red bull for 5 years, Alonso is rumoured to be heading to Mclaren.
fusefuse
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Estonia4644 Posts
April 22 2014 15:40 GMT
#1603
Yeah I dont see why Räikkönen would be on a contract longer than this season
But should he find a new surge of motivation to fight for points, who knows!

Its likely that if they keep Alonso on board for another year, that theyll accompany him with a midfielder content on an upgrade of team but playing second fiddle for points

Imagine Rosberg and someone like Hulk though,
Maybe Ferrari is looking for some extra exposure in the German market :D

In any case, things are looking pretty good for Hülkenberg for next year though
Liquipedia@jkursk
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
April 22 2014 15:46 GMT
#1604
Hulk to ferrari is a pretty safe bet maybe with Vettel there was a rumour a couple of years ago that ferrari have reserved him for when he leaves red bull. Alonso to Mercedes would be really good the ultimate driver lineup with probably the best car.
fusefuse
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Estonia4644 Posts
April 22 2014 15:57 GMT
#1605
I doubt that Alonso will want to team up with Hamilton again 8)
Liquipedia@jkursk
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
April 22 2014 16:01 GMT
#1606
On April 23 2014 00:57 fusefuse wrote:
I doubt that Alonso will want to team up with Hamilton again 8)


But what if Mercedes have a superior car again next year? He wants a 3rd title and he hasn't got many years left.
Aristodemus
Profile Joined January 2011
England2010 Posts
April 22 2014 16:57 GMT
#1607
Alonso has it written in his Ferrari contract that they can't sign Hamilton so I seriously doubt he would go to Mercedes. I would suggest that he wouldn't want the Hulk for a team-mate either, shame he has this attitude to be honest because 07 was awesome.
once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more
mijagi182
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland797 Posts
April 22 2014 19:38 GMT
#1608
On April 23 2014 00:20 Aristodemus wrote:
Who is to say that Vettel, Hamilton or Alonso wouldn't have won the title in that car? That Lotus was awesome. Kimi lost his motivation (imo) when he signed that £30m pa Ferrari deal and married a supermodel.


I never understood those "kimi has lost his motivation" blah blah theories. It's tiring and comes back every season at some point... Kimi himself always repeats its BS and he never lost it. Come on guys, its F1 ffs.
oh in the sun sun having fun
mijagi182
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland797 Posts
April 22 2014 19:44 GMT
#1609
Fernando is great as a driver but horrible as a person. It is telling there was always bad blood between him and his teamate. ie Trulli, Hamilton, Piquet, Massa. Whatever team he entered drama and shit fallowed.
oh in the sun sun having fun
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
April 24 2014 13:43 GMT
#1610
According to an ex red bull engineer mercedes haven't shown their true pace yet and have updates but aren't bothering to bring them to races because they don't need them, looks good for Lewis if it is true.
Aristodemus
Profile Joined January 2011
England2010 Posts
April 24 2014 18:36 GMT
#1611
We shouldn't write Nico off yet, look at the damage one retirement can do, Then think about the nonsense double points shit at the end of the year also.
once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
April 24 2014 18:50 GMT
#1612
On April 25 2014 03:36 Aristodemus wrote:
We shouldn't write Nico off yet, look at the damage one retirement can do, Then think about the nonsense double points shit at the end of the year also.


I agree. Obviously Hamilton is the favorite, but maybe the odds are 70% Hamilton wins it, 25% Rosberg, 5% someone else. Does anyone have an update about the speed of the cars relative to 2013?

It was reported at the begging of the year the cars were 2-5 seconds slower than their 2013 counterpart, but the progress to improve lap times should be pretty quick, and we should be at a similar point in speed to the end of the 2013 season by the end of the 2014 season.
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GTPGlitch
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
5061 Posts
April 24 2014 21:28 GMT
#1613
On April 24 2014 22:43 Zaros wrote:
According to an ex red bull engineer mercedes haven't shown their true pace yet and have updates but aren't bothering to bring them to races because they don't need them, looks good for Lewis if it is true.


That's kind of hilarious

I'm picturing this season long struggle for teams to catch up to Mercedes, and finally at the totally happening Russian GP Red Bull thinks they are on equal ground, and then Mercedes bring in updates for every part of their car and go back to being 2+seconds ahead
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Chewits
Profile Joined September 2006
Northern Ireland1200 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-25 00:02:48
April 25 2014 00:02 GMT
#1614
On April 24 2014 22:43 Zaros wrote:
According to an ex red bull engineer mercedes haven't shown their true pace yet and have updates but aren't bothering to bring them to races because they don't need them, looks good for Lewis if it is true.


Source? Because that is just plain wrong. Why would you not bother to bring updates to your car? F1 is all about development. What you say makes no sense in F1. Doesnt matter if you are tenth ahead or 10 seconds ahead, you are always trying to make your car faster. So yea i think that is some bullshit statement.
Whats the altitude?
Lachrymose
Profile Joined February 2008
Australia1928 Posts
April 25 2014 06:51 GMT
#1615
On April 25 2014 09:02 Chewits wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2014 22:43 Zaros wrote:
According to an ex red bull engineer mercedes haven't shown their true pace yet and have updates but aren't bothering to bring them to races because they don't need them, looks good for Lewis if it is true.


Source? Because that is just plain wrong. Why would you not bother to bring updates to your car? F1 is all about development. What you say makes no sense in F1. Doesnt matter if you are tenth ahead or 10 seconds ahead, you are always trying to make your car faster. So yea i think that is some bullshit statement.


Probably because the effort to turn ideas into parts and get parts to the car slow you down. You can iterate far faster in theory than in practice. They're probably keeping half-explored ideas in the pipeline instead of putting them into practice unless they want some specific testing.

If he means they have literal physical parts that are better just laying around ready but they can't be bothered then yeah, I agree that's pretty far-fetched. I don't think that is what he means, though.

That and it's way cheaper.
~
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
April 25 2014 08:50 GMT
#1616
On April 25 2014 09:02 Chewits wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2014 22:43 Zaros wrote:
According to an ex red bull engineer mercedes haven't shown their true pace yet and have updates but aren't bothering to bring them to races because they don't need them, looks good for Lewis if it is true.


Source? Because that is just plain wrong. Why would you not bother to bring updates to your car? F1 is all about development. What you say makes no sense in F1. Doesnt matter if you are tenth ahead or 10 seconds ahead, you are always trying to make your car faster. So yea i think that is some bullshit statement.


It was on the sky f1 midweek report.
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
April 25 2014 13:19 GMT
#1617
On April 25 2014 09:02 Chewits wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2014 22:43 Zaros wrote:
According to an ex red bull engineer mercedes haven't shown their true pace yet and have updates but aren't bothering to bring them to races because they don't need them, looks good for Lewis if it is true.


Source? Because that is just plain wrong. Why would you not bother to bring updates to your car? F1 is all about development. What you say makes no sense in F1. Doesnt matter if you are tenth ahead or 10 seconds ahead, you are always trying to make your car faster. So yea i think that is some bullshit statement.


because once you bring it out into plain view, it allows your competitors to learn and copy from it?
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lord_nibbler
Profile Joined March 2004
Germany591 Posts
April 25 2014 14:42 GMT
#1618
Every engine update needs to be reported / approved by FIA and all teams.
So by definition of the rules all updates are known to everybody.
So theoretically, Renault might have gotten an 'OK' on a beneficial modification, that Mercedes could easily implement as well, but have not done so until now...
Aristodemus
Profile Joined January 2011
England2010 Posts
April 25 2014 17:40 GMT
#1619
Only very specific ideas can be copied, nearly 100% of updates are reliant on the full package to work and would therefore be useless to rivals.
As for the 2+seconds, don't you guys think Rosberg would have qualified on the front row more than 1/4 if that were true? It is fast but that RB is an awesome chassis imo, Horner can (for once) say that Renault are holding them back from another year of dominance.
once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
May 03 2014 22:57 GMT
#1620
On April 26 2014 02:40 Aristodemus wrote:
Only very specific ideas can be copied, nearly 100% of updates are reliant on the full package to work and would therefore be useless to rivals.
As for the 2+seconds, don't you guys think Rosberg would have qualified on the front row more than 1/4 if that were true? It is fast but that RB is an awesome chassis imo, Horner can (for once) say that Renault are holding them back from another year of dominance.


It has rained in qualifying for 3/4 sessions, hes probably just not that good in the rain.
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