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Aristodemus
Profile Joined January 2011
England2010 Posts
June 08 2014 10:10 GMT
#1661
Genuinely shocked to see Lewis beaten around Montreal, I thought he was untouchable here. He made a couple mistakes though and I still expect him to win today. Should be an interesting race, looking forward to it.
once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more
Lonyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United Kingdom3884 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-08 14:32:26
June 08 2014 10:31 GMT
#1662
On May 26 2014 10:29 Pr0wler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2014 09:37 a176 wrote:
On May 26 2014 06:04 Chewits wrote:
Just shows how important track position is


this is like .. a given. finish first in quali, you finish first in this race.

i honestly grew tired of f1 and its self masturbation for monaco some years ago. i would axe it from the calendar in an instant if i could.

It was going to be much more interesting if there were at least 2 more teams that can actually compete. Right now it is 2 guys from Mercedes winning because they have the best car. I know who will win even before the qualifications begin and that kills it for me. I don't know why everyone focuses so much on the pilots when they hardly matter. F1 is all about the manufacturers - The one that makes the best car wins. At least in the past we had great battles between McLaren and Ferrari... Now it is just a race with a single horse. It is the same for the past couple of years.

2 years ago, Vettel won the world championship by 3 points from Alonso... and last year it wasn't absolute domination from race 1 of the season continually. It was only the second half where it was Vettel on his own.

So it's not at all the same as the last 2 years, unless having 4 different winners in 4 different cars in the first 10 races last year, and a 3 point championship between two teams the year before is like having almost all 1-2 finishes from one team except for a single retirement?


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Second half of the season.
Half the field getting grid penalties.
Woo great new rules.


28.4 a) Unless he drives for more than one team (see 28.4(d) below), each driver may use no more than five power units during a Championship season.
b) For the purposes of this Article 28.4 the power unit will be deemed to comprise six separate elements, the engine (ICE), the motor generator unit-kinetic (MGU-K), the motor generator unit-heat (MGU-H), the energy store (ES), turbocharger (TC) and control electronics (CE). Each driver will therefore be permitted to use five of each of the above six components during a Championship season and any combination of them may be fitted to a car at any one time.
c) Should a driver use more than five of any one of the elements a grid place penalty will be imposed upon him at the first Event during which each additional element is used. Penalties will be applied according to the following table and will be cumulative :
Replacement of a complete power unit = The driver concerned must start the race from the pit lane.
The first time a 6th of any of the elements is used = Ten grid place penalty.
The first time a 6th of any of the remaining elements is used = Five grid place penalty.
The first time a 7th of any of the elements is used = Ten grid place penalty.
The first time a 7th of any of the remaining elements is used, and so on = Five grid place penalty.
HOLY CHECK!
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
June 08 2014 18:05 GMT
#1663
Chilton won't finish
☺
fbs
Profile Joined February 2003
United Kingdom2476 Posts
June 08 2014 18:10 GMT
#1664
Canada GP, best of the year.
Chewits
Profile Joined September 2006
Northern Ireland1200 Posts
June 08 2014 19:14 GMT
#1665
lol canada always throws up a brill race. Suddenly no one knows who's gonna win lol
Whats the altitude?
Deleted User 26513
Profile Joined February 2007
2376 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-08 19:29:23
June 08 2014 19:24 GMT
#1666
Yay, the mercedess broke. Now we will have 20 laps of fun
Lonyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United Kingdom3884 Posts
June 08 2014 19:31 GMT
#1667
Red Bull going full retard.
HOLY CHECK!
shiroiusagi
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
SoCal, USA3955 Posts
June 08 2014 19:40 GMT
#1668
HOOOOOOOOO!!! Go Riccardo! :D
Graphics@shiroiusagi_ | shiroiusagi.net
shiroiusagi
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
SoCal, USA3955 Posts
June 08 2014 19:42 GMT
#1669
Holy crap :x
Graphics@shiroiusagi_ | shiroiusagi.net
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
June 08 2014 19:45 GMT
#1670
Massa, what an idiot.
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Deleted User 26513
Profile Joined February 2007
2376 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-08 19:51:24
June 08 2014 19:46 GMT
#1671
The most experienced guy did the dumbest thing 1 lap before the finish. Too bad for Perez he had a great race.
Vettel is the luckiest guy ever !

btw, Rosberg finished 2nd with broken car... Yeah, mercedess is that much better.
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
June 08 2014 19:49 GMT
#1672
iirc, Michael Schumacher's rear brakes failed in 2000, and he finished first (would have been second as well, but Barrichello maintained second).
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Aristodemus
Profile Joined January 2011
England2010 Posts
June 08 2014 19:49 GMT
#1673
Grats to Ricciardo on his first win! Massa made a right mess of that, and Chilton lost his finishing run. Lewis really unlucky, been beaten once this season (under suspect circumstances)and significantly behind in the title now.
once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
June 08 2014 19:52 GMT
#1674
What a race!

Are there any circuits that are more break heavy than Montreal? Best race of the season, and poor Perez, he worked so hard to keep everyone off of him, sad that it came to that.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
Chewits
Profile Joined September 2006
Northern Ireland1200 Posts
June 08 2014 19:57 GMT
#1675
Great race! But I am sorry but that was not Massa's fault, if you look at replay, Perez moved left quite suddenly and mass had no where to go. There has been similar accidents like this in the past. Nasty accident. Amazing drivers can walk away from them accidents as they would have made contact at near top speed as it was just at braking zone. Big well done to FIA and safety standards.

When you take out the 2 Mercs, the race was really close. Mercs still got a huge advantage, but rest of field are really bunching up. Canada is always a good race. Its funny that one of the most simplest of circuits provides great racing. All them new circuits your man designed are bore tests with way too many corners.

Well done Daniel!
Whats the altitude?
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
June 08 2014 20:01 GMT
#1676
On June 09 2014 04:52 FiWiFaKi wrote:
What a race!

Are there any circuits that are more break heavy than Montreal? Best race of the season, and poor Perez, he worked so hard to keep everyone off of him, sad that it came to that.

Monza
☺
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-08 20:20:12
June 08 2014 20:09 GMT
#1677
On June 09 2014 05:01 Release wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2014 04:52 FiWiFaKi wrote:
What a race!

Are there any circuits that are more break heavy than Montreal? Best race of the season, and poor Perez, he worked so hard to keep everyone off of him, sad that it came to that.

Monza


I thought Monza was just a high speed circuit? When I play it in Gran Turismo there's really only that chicane thing after the long straight where you slow down a lot, and besides that, you can go through every turn at 120km/h+.

Does high speed just automatically mean heavy on breaking?

[image loading]

Turn 7-11 are all 160km/h+ corners, maybe you need to go down to 150 for coming into 11.

Actually watching a lap of hamilton, there is only two times in the entire lap you go below 170km/h(that's crazy), I guess one high speed brake a lap is all it takes.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
June 08 2014 20:20 GMT
#1678
1-2 and 4-5 are ~100 km/h.
At Montreal, entry speed into high braking zones are approximate 280-310 (no DRS).
At Monza, I expect entry speeds to be approxmately 320-350 (possibly higher if Spain was any indicator, no DRS).
Energy is proportional to speed², the energy that the brakes need to dissipate will be about 20% higher (since corner speed is 80-100 km/h, energy is negligible).
However, Montreal is about 30% more laps, so lower intensity but longer duration.
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Chewits
Profile Joined September 2006
Northern Ireland1200 Posts
June 08 2014 20:24 GMT
#1679
When I used to play F1 on playstation, Canada was like my go to tracks. So much fun to drive round. Something about nailing them chicanes being so close to wall so satisfying. But yeah the reason Canada always throws up good races is a few things;

1) The layout. A lot of heavy braking and a lot of corners where you carry a lot of speed into another heavy braking. This means cars have good chance to carry good speed and out brake drivers
2) Its a partial street circuit. The surface is different than a normal race track
3) Leading on from that is its very bumpy and there is some big kerbs
4) Weather can be quite unpredictable too with rain quite frequent.
5) High chance of safety car because of the layout and lack of run off areas
Whats the altitude?
Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
June 08 2014 20:40 GMT
#1680
https://vine.co/v/MD07j6lMTeW
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