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and check the hydraulics it could be decent!Lotus looks strong though which is pretty cool. Pushing them up there alongside Ferrari Mclaren and Red Bull, making it a 4 way slog with maybe the adding of Mercedes could make this year the best yet!
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
and check the hydraulics it could be decent!Lotus looks strong though which is pretty cool. Pushing them up there alongside Ferrari Mclaren and Red Bull, making it a 4 way slog with maybe the adding of Mercedes could make this year the best yet! | ||
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lilwisper
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kierpanda
United States757 Posts
On February 07 2013 03:11 Pandemona wrote: Lotus looks strong though which is pretty cool. Pushing them up there alongside Ferrari Mclaren and Red Bull, making it a 4 way slog with maybe the adding of Mercedes could make this year the best yet! Mercedes seems to be the wild card. I feel like if they manage to snag a win at any point, it'll make things very complicated for the top 3 (or 4). I like Hamilton as a driver -- he's superb and he's pretty damn aggressive, but I don't know how reliable the Mercedes is. We'll see if cutting development for the W03 like halfway through 2012 will pay off. :0 | ||
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mijagi182
Poland797 Posts
"Found this interesting tweet – thought I would share: Lewis Hamilton said he was “quite happy” with the Merc, but adds: “We need more aero, definitely. I definitely notice the difference” (to McLaren)" | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
1. Felipe Massa, 1:19.005, 15 laps; 2. Nico Rosberg, 1:19.167, 25 laps; 3. Sebastian Vettel, 1:20.585, 16 laps; 4. Jean-Eric Vergne, 1:21.238, 16 laps; 5. Esteban Gutierrez, 1:21.931, 22 laps; 6. Valtteri Bottas, 1:22.888, 13 laps; 7. Max Chilton, 1:23.938, 21 laps; 8. Charles Pic, 1:25.365, 20 laps; 9. Kimi Raikkonen, No Time, 6 laps; 10. James Rossiter, No Times, 6 laps; 11. Jenson Button, No time, 4 laps. Some fast times today!! Nico pulling a 1.19.1 is pretty good news for Mercedes. Massa clearly liking his Ferrari with a 1.19 dead. Mclaren will need Button to produce some good laps today aswell. Quite intrigued to see what Kimi does with that Lotus. @ 10:09 GMT (+00:00) 1. Felipe Massa, 1:19.005, 24 laps; 2. Nico Rosberg, 1:19.167, 34 laps; 3. Sebastian Vettel, 1:19.829, 22 laps; 4. Jean-Eric Vergne, 1:20.342, 25 laps; 5. Esteban Gutierrez, 1:21.527, 33 laps; 6. Valtteri Bottas, 1:22.698, 29 laps; 7. Max Chilton, 1:23.938, 21 laps; 8. Charles Pic, 1:25.365, 24 laps; 9. James Rossiter, No Time, 9 laps; 10. Kimi Raikkonen, No Time, 6 laps; 11. Jenson Button, No time, 4 laps. Wow, getting tight at the top of the order here at Jerez - Rosberg has just bettered Massa's time by all of one thousandth of a second! The new benchmark is therefore 1:19.004. McLaren have finally put a time on the board with Jenson Button and it's a 1:19.834 from the Briton on what again looks to be the harder Pirellis. @ 10:44 GMT (+00:00) 1:17.879 1. Felipe Massa, 1:17.879, 24 laps; 2. Nico Rosberg, 1:19.004, 45 laps; 3. Sebastian Vettel, 1:19.829, 28 laps; 4. Jenson Button, 1:19.834, 13 laps; 5. Jean-Eric Vergne, 1:20.342, 26 laps; 6. Esteban Gutierrez, 1:21.527, 34 laps; 7. Valtteri Bottas, 1:22.698, 34 laps; 8. Max Chilton, 1:23.938, 27 laps; 9. Charles Pic, 1:25.365, 28 laps; 10. James Rossiter, No Time, 10 laps; 11. Kimi Raikkonen, No Time, 9 laps. It was just a couple of laps for Raikkonen before he headed back in. Meantime, Massa has moved P1 again with a 1:17.879s lap to go over a second faster than Rosberg. It's also the first lap in the 1:17s this week. Oh Massa where did that come from!! Ferrari setting the early pace! @ 12:00 GMT (+00:00) 1. Felipe Massa, 1:17.879, 49 laps; 2. Nico Rosberg, 1:19.004, 69 laps; 3. Sebastian Vettel, 1:19.676, 40 laps; 4. Jean-Eric Vergne 1:19.707, 42 laps; 5. Jenson Button, 1:19.788, 21 laps; 6. Esteban Gutierrez, 1:19.995, 52 laps; 7. James Rossiter, 1:20.068, 27 laps; 8. Valtteri Bottas, 1:21.578, 58 laps; 9. Kimi Raikkonen, 1:21.917, 17 laps; 10. Max Chilton, 1:23.938, 27 laps; 11. Charles Pic, 1:25.365, 28 laps. Button posting some competitive times but still not at the top end. Kimi clearly struggling with his new car @ 13:00 GMT (+00:00) 1. Felipe Massa, 1:17.879, 49 laps; 2. Nico Rosberg, 1:19.004, 86 laps; 3. James Rossiter, 1:19.303, 42 laps; 4. Kimi Raikkonen, 1:19.539, 30 laps; 5. Jenson Button, 1:19.603, 28 laps; 6. Sebastian Vettel, 1:19.676, 51 laps; 7. Jean-Eric Vergne 1:19.707, 50 laps; 8. Esteban Gutierrez, 1:19.995, 72 laps; 9. Valtteri Bottas, 1:21.578, 58 laps; 10. Max Chilton, 1:23.938, 44 laps; 11. Charles Pic, 1:25.365, 28 laps. Kimi and Button finally putting in some laps, but their times still not that great. Massa and his Ferrari still way out in the lead with the fastest time of the week. @ 13:20 GMT (+00:00) 1. Felipe Massa, 1:17.879, 49 laps; 2. Nico Rosberg, 1:18.766, 88 laps; 3. James Rossiter, 1:19.303, 42 laps; 4. Kimi Raikkonen, 1:19.539, 30 laps; 5. Jenson Button, 1:19.603, 28 laps; 6. Sebastian Vettel, 1:19.676, 51 laps; 7. Jean-Eric Vergne 1:19.707, 50 laps; 8. Esteban Gutierrez, 1:19.995, 72 laps; 9. Valtteri Bottas, 1:21.578, 58 laps; 10. Paul di Resta, 1:23.719, 7 laps; 11. Max Chilton, 1:23.938, 44 laps; 12. Charles Pic, 1:25.365, 28 laps. Lewis Hamilton said yesterday that Mercedes hoped to do 110-120 laps per day to get their test programme back on track and his team-mate is certainly doing his damndest to keep his side of the bargain: Rosberg is pounding around out there again, 88 laps and counting. In fact, lap 88 was his fastest so far: a 1:18.766. | ||
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mijagi182
Poland797 Posts
On February 07 2013 19:07 Pandemona wrote: Button posting some competitive times but still not at the top end. Kimi clearly struggling with his new car ? source | ||
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kroko
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
5. Jenson Button, 1:19.603, 28 laps; 4. Kimi Raikkonen, 1:19.539, 30 laps The Source? xD Both of them struggling to do "long stints" in the cars and it is very "stop start" they go out, do 3-4 laps and come back in. @ 13:48 GMT (+00:00) 1. Felipe Massa, 1:17.879, 49 laps; 2. Nico Rosberg, 1:18.766, 103 laps; 3. Kimi Raikkonen, 1:19.200, 36 laps; 4. James Rossiter, 1:19.303, 42 laps; 5. Jenson Button, 1:19.603, 28 laps; 6. Sebastian Vettel, 1:19.676, 60 laps; 7. Jean-Eric Vergne 1:19.707, 54 laps; 8. Esteban Gutierrez, 1:19.995, 72 laps; 9. Valtteri Bottas, 1:21.578, 58 laps; 10. Paul di Resta, 1:23.729, 7 laps; 11. Max Chilton, 1:23.938, 44 laps; 12. Charles Pic, 1:25.365, 28 laps. @ 14:20 GMT (+00:00) 1. Felipe Massa, 1:17.879, 53laps; 2. Nico Rosberg, 1:18.766, 114 laps; 3. Kimi Raikkonen, 1:19.200, 40 laps; 4. James Rossiter, 1:19.303, 42 laps; 5. Sebastian Vettel, 1:19.566, 67 laps; 6. Jenson Button, 1:19.603, 36 laps; 7. Jean-Eric Vergne 1:19.707, 63 laps; 8. Esteban Gutierrez, 1:19.995, 82 laps; 9. Valtteri Bottas, 1:21.578, 67 laps; 10. Charles Pic, 1:22.801, 36 laps; 11. Paul di Resta, 1:23.729, 7 laps; 12. Max Chilton, 1:23.938, 48 laps. @ 15:54 GMT (+00:00) 1. Felipe Massa, 1:17.879, 85 laps; 2. Nico Rosberg, 1:18.766, 146 laps; 3. Sebastian Vettel, 1:19.052, 100 laps; 4. Kimi Raikkonen, 1:19.200, 40 laps; 5. Jean-Eric Vergne, 1:19.247, 85 laps; 6. James Rossiter, 1:19.303, 42 laps; 7. Jenson Button, 1:19.603, 82 laps; 8. Esteban Gutierrez, 1:19.934, 108 laps; 9. Max Chilton, 1:21.269, 77 laps; 10. Valtteri Bottas, 1:21.575, 86 laps; 11. Charles Pic, 1:22.352, 57 laps; 12. Paul di Resta, 1:23.729, 7 laps. We have a red flag: Jenson Button has stopped on track. In fact, his car hasn't stopped - Button climbed out, inspected the left rear and then the McLaren started rolling forward. 'Put the handbrake on!' shouts a wag nearby. | ||
ToKoreaWithLove
Norway10161 Posts
I'm really excited for two cars this year: the McLaren and the Sauber. The McLaren has such a finely crafted rear, while the Sauber in general just looks like an exciting car. | ||
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mijagi182
Poland797 Posts
On February 07 2013 23:03 Pandemona wrote: 5. Jenson Button, 1:19.603, 28 laps; 4. Kimi Raikkonen, 1:19.539, 30 laps The Source? xD Both of them struggling to do "long stints" in the cars and it is very "stop start" they go out, do 3-4 laps and come back in. lulz, you must be new to this f1 stuff or trolling  | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On February 08 2013 00:35 mijagi182 wrote: lulz, you must be new to this f1 stuff or trolling No you don't understand what i am saying. He kept doing 3-4 lap stints, go into the garage for 30-40minutes, then come out, do another 3-4 laps and repeat. Grosjean yesterday did 95 laps and got the quickest time this week. Kimi must not like the set up, or is continuously changing things everytime he is going back into the pits. Grosjean said yesterday "We tested a few options on the set-up and it reacted quite well," Grosjean revealed. "Sometimes things we were not expecting worked, but it's always good to have a good idea for the future of the testing direction. "It's good now to have Kimi [Raikkonen] in the car to give us this feedback as well." And still produced 95 laps, why would Kimi only get 40 laps out of a 8hour session of Grosjean with making tweaks to performance get 95? That to me (reading between the lines!) tells me that Kimi does not like the set up of the car yet. Why would Lotus make drastic changes that meant Kimi could only do 40laps on day 3 of testing? So again, i think Kimi isn't happy with it at the moment, is what i am saying. I have watched a lot of F1 so don't tell me "you must be new" just because you don't understand my post | ||
zere
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Maybe should of checked Lotus twitter But my point is still valid! | ||
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mijagi182
Poland797 Posts
On February 08 2013 01:06 Pandemona wrote: No you don't understand what i am saying. He kept doing 3-4 lap stints, go into the garage for 30-40minutes, then come out, do another 3-4 laps and repeat. Grosjean yesterday did 95 laps and got the quickest time this week. Kimi must not like the set up, or is continuously changing things everytime he is going back into the pits. Grosjean said yesterday And still produced 95 laps, why would Kimi only get 40 laps out of a 8hour session of Grosjean with making tweaks to performance get 95? That to me (reading between the lines!) tells me that Kimi does not like the set up of the car yet. Why would Lotus make drastic changes that meant Kimi could only do 40laps on day 3 of testing? So again, i think Kimi isn't happy with it at the moment, is what i am saying. I have watched a lot of F1 so don't tell me "you must be new" just because you don't understand my post So ur not trolling... man go to a serious forum like autosport.com and make a thread like 'Kimi is strugling given his lap times in jerez test'. They'd mop the floor with you seriously. Think for one second. This is a new car, they are testing parts, running with sensors and stuff attached to it, doing stop and goes, runing on pitlane straight only etc etc How could you possibly know what program he was on and what they were testing? You only see lap times. Even if you try to compare lap times how could you know fuel loads, engine revs, type of compound, was it a new or used set of tires etc | ||
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mijagi182
Poland797 Posts
On February 08 2013 02:36 Pandemona wrote: Ah so he did have problems xD Maybe should of checked Lotus twitter But my point is still valid!no its definately not | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On February 07 2013 19:07 Pandemona wrote: Button posting some competitive times but still not at the top end. Kimi clearly struggling with his new car I am suggesting he has a problem with his car, which Zere just confirmed he did Both of them struggling to do "long stints" in the cars and it is very "stop start" they go out, do 3-4 laps and come back in. I am saying due to them not being out on the track in their cars, they have not done any long stints thus not being able to make a decent time. This is proven because Kimi had problems with the car Your telling me, that if i went onto some forum and posted "Kimi is struggling given his lap TIMES" i would get "mopped the floor with" That is not what i am saying, that it clearly not what i am saying. I am saying that he had problems with his car hense he has not done a long stint in it. READ BEFORE YOU ARGUE WITH SOMEONE OVER POINTLESS STUFF!! | ||
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mijagi182
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mijagi182
Poland797 Posts
On February 08 2013 02:49 Pandemona wrote: Show me where i said he was struggling with lap times? I said he is struggling with "THE CAR" ala he has issues with it. Which is basically what i said. On February 07 2013 19:07 Pandemona wrote: Button posting some competitive times but still not at the top end. Kimi clearly struggling with his new car I am suggesting he has a problem with his car, which Zere just confirmed he did Both of them struggling to do "long stints" in the cars and it is very "stop start" they go out, do 3-4 laps and come back in. I am saying due to them not being out on the track in their cars, they have not done any long stints thus not being able to make a decent time. This is proven because Kimi had problems with the car Your telling me, that if i went onto some forum and posted "Kimi is struggling given his lap TIMES" i would get "mopped the floor with" That is not what i am saying, that it clearly not what i am saying. I am saying that he had problems with his car hense he has not done a long stint in it. READ BEFORE YOU ARGUE WITH SOMEONE OVER POINTLESS STUFF!! 1. When you post "kimi (or button) is struggling with a new car" you are pointing at him not at the car or the team or its mechanics. It would make sense if you had evidence he cant find the right setup, rear of the car is dancing in corners something like that. But we dont have any of these info, thats why i asked you for source. 2. You still dont understand not doing a long stint is not struggling. Actually its often done on purpose. Autosport Live : 10:38 Raikkonen does one very slow run past the pits, and is then back in. Teams do all sorts of strange things at testing, all in the name of data gathering. | ||
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mijagi182
Poland797 Posts
 Jennie Gow @JennieGow Kimi "The balance isn’t quite to my liking yet. We know the car can go faster, we were just running through what we needed to achieve." #F1 btw thats how source should look like | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Kimi Raikkonen: "It was good to get behind the wheel of a Formula 1 car again. The E21 feels quite good so far, even if the balance isn't quite to my liking yet. That didn't stop us going through the programme we wanted to do which had a lot of aero runs in it. We know the car can go faster, we were just running through what we needed to achieve. It's a shame that we had a clutch issue at the end of the day, but that's why we come testing so we can find these problems and fix them. He had a problem with the car. A PROBLEM WITH THE CAR. Can you understand that? That is what i said, he has a problem with the car. He confirms he had ISSUES with the car, nothing else. In Practice they do laps, to get data. He did 4laps then came in tweeked something, went back out for 4 laps. THAT IS WHAT I SAID. Please understand English before you respond saying im "wrong" when every post you have done is backed up my claims. | ||
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