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mijagi182
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland797 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-07 18:43:19
February 07 2013 18:40 GMT
#121
On February 08 2013 03:29 Pandemona wrote:
That backs up what i said? Dude can you not understand English?

Show nested quote +
Kimi Raikkonen: "It was good to get behind the wheel of a Formula 1 car again. The E21 feels quite good so far, even if the balance isn't quite to my liking yet. That didn't stop us going through the programme we wanted to do which had a lot of aero runs in it. We know the car can go faster, we were just running through what we needed to achieve. It's a shame that we had a clutch issue at the end of the day, but that's why we come testing so we can find these problems and fix them.


He had a problem with the car. A PROBLEM WITH THE CAR. Can you understand that? That is what i said, he has a problem with the car. He confirms he had ISSUES with the car, nothing else. In Practice they do laps, to get data. He did 4laps then came in tweeked something, went back out for 4 laps. THAT IS WHAT I SAID. Please understand English before you respond saying im "wrong" when every post you have done is backed up my claims.


yep caps lock make your post looks valid...not

The point is at 12gmt when you posted "Kimi clearly struggling with his new car", you had (lets do this ur way) NOTHING to back it up. Lap times or lap count meant completely nothing at this stage.

"Both of them struggling to do "long stints" in the cars and it is very "stop start" they go out, do 3-4 laps and come back in" its not a sign of struggling also - it depends on program they run like kimi did, lemme quote again.

Autosport Live : 10:38 Raikkonen does one very slow run past the pits, and is then back in. Teams do all sorts of strange things at testing, all in the name of data gathering.


But if you just corrected your self and replaced struggling with struggling to do long runs then its ok.
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zere
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany1287 Posts
February 07 2013 18:45 GMT
#122
Can you please stop fighting like 8-year-olds?

Here is a pic of Jackie Stewart surfing an F1 car through the tunnel of Monaco. Your arguments are invalid.

[image loading]
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mijagi182
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland797 Posts
February 07 2013 18:46 GMT
#123
nah, i think its good for the page count. there are so few of us here :/
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-07 18:50:51
February 07 2013 18:48 GMT
#124
Your quoting some "autosport live guy" i just quoted what Kimi just said in an interview with Sky Sports. Zere posted he was struggling with KERS and Seat Position. They also (in the interview i linked) said they were running different Aerodynamic set ups still. Yet your telling me what im saying is wrong? Because you read it differently to how it's typed?

He was struggling; the car was not set up right for him; then pieces of the car failed (KERS)
He didn't do long stints; as the car was needed to be bought back in and changed around and set up differently
It was very stop start; So kimi couldn't get a proper feel for the car

Which he confirms in HIS interview

The E21 feels quite good so far, even if the balance isn't quite to my liking yet.


But sure if you think i'm wrong and your right still, continue to post that what you read and what i typed are different carry on


There is alot more people when the season starts.....and yes i agree with Zere, this pointless argument of you saying what you read is different to what i typed because your understanding of English is different, then backing it up with points that prove my posts valid....
Zere put alot of effort in this thread for it to be good, not full of spam.
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mijagi182
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland797 Posts
February 07 2013 18:59 GMT
#125
On February 08 2013 03:48 Pandemona wrote:
Your quoting some "autosport live guy" i just quoted what Kimi just said in an interview with Sky Sports. Zere posted he was struggling with KERS and Seat Position. They also (in the interview i linked) said they were running different Aerodynamic set ups still. Yet your telling me what im saying is wrong? Because you read it differently to how it's typed?

He was struggling; the car was not set up right for him; then pieces of the car failed (KERS)
He didn't do long stints; as the car was needed to be bought back in and changed around and set up differently
It was very stop start; So kimi couldn't get a proper feel for the car

Which he confirms in HIS interview
Show nested quote +

The E21 feels quite good so far, even if the balance isn't quite to my liking yet.


But sure if you think i'm wrong and your right still, continue to post that what you read and what i typed are different carry on


I dont deny he had issues, i even posted some tweet he did. The thing is at 12 gmt there were no kimis, anyoneelses quotes or sources to back up this claims.And then just came up with this low lap count which can be contributed to more reasons. Thats why i aksed what i ask.

Anyway i agree with zere this is invalid now. But i think this would be a good thing in this thread if anyone cames up with something which isnt his opinion (like stating fact) to back it up with as reliable source as he can. Thats all i will say about the matter, since i appreciate the work zere does here much
oh in the sun sun having fun
mijagi182
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland797 Posts
February 07 2013 23:22 GMT
#126
http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2013/02/jerez-test-day-3-ferrari-show-their-potential/#comments

silly but interesting fuel-loads comparison.

btw we were PMing with Pandemona and are best friends now, so there should be a peace in this thread
oh in the sun sun having fun
zere
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany1287 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-08 07:54:37
February 08 2013 07:54 GMT
#127
lol

I was thinking about Jerez testing 2012 and how to compare times to the 2012 ones. The temperature conditions are almost the same as last year, but 2013 we have steady north winds in Jerez with gusts up to 50km/h which is quite the dramatic change from last year's south winds, so I don't think we can compare times at all this year.
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mijagi182
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland797 Posts
February 08 2013 08:41 GMT
#128
On February 08 2013 16:54 zere wrote:
lol

I was thinking about Jerez testing 2012 and how to compare times to the 2012 ones. The temperature conditions are almost the same as last year, but 2013 we have steady north winds in Jerez with gusts up to 50km/h which is quite the dramatic change from last year's south winds, so I don't think we can compare times at all this year.


Different compounds for this year are important factor too. Williams is (or was) running 2012 spec car, theoretically if we could know how much they improved over 2012, we could have the reference needed to compare track condition + new tires.
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-08 12:32:45
February 08 2013 08:44 GMT
#129
+ Show Spoiler [08:40] +


1. Sebastian Vettel, 1:20.551, 8 laps;
2. Esteban Gutierrez, 1:20.639, 11 laps;
3. Jean-Eric Vergne, 1:24.005, 6 laps;
4. Charles Pic, 1:26.109, 6 laps;
5. Valtteri Bottas, 1:27.285, 4 laps;
6. Lewis Hamilton, 1:35.876, 5 laps;
7. Luiz Razia, 1:48.351, 3 laps.

Perez Hamilton Kimi and Vettel all on the track today! Hoping for some nice runs from them all.

The Ferrari has stopped between turns seven and eight. The smoke seemed to be coming from the rear of the car, which could be engine related, although too early to be sure. Not the start he would have expected to his Ferrari career for Pedro
Dela Rosa.

+ Show Spoiler [09:18] +


1. Esteban Gutierrez, 1:19.996, 12 laps;
2. Sebastian Vettel, 1:20.551, 8 laps;
3. Jean-Eric Vergne, 1:24.005, 7 laps;
4. Charles Pic, 1:24.379, 12 laps;
5. Lewis Hamilton, 1:25.073, 11 laps;
6. Valtteri Bottas, 1:27.285, 4 laps;
7. Jules Bianchi, 1:32.493, 7 laps;
8. Luiz Razia, 1:42.379, 7 laps;
9. Sergio Perez, No time, 6 laps;
10. Kimi Raikkonen, No time, 5 laps;
11. Pedro de la Rosa, No time, 2 laps.


+ Show Spoiler [09:40] +


1. Sergio Perez, 1:19.696, 10 laps;
2. Lewis Hamilton, 1:19.733, 17 laps;
3. Kimi Raikkonen, 1:19.794, 10 laps,
4. Esteban Gutierrez, 1:19.996 26 laps;
5. Sebastian Vettel, 1:20.155, 14 laps;
6. Jean-Eric Vergne, 1:20.237, 13 laps;
7. Valtteri Bottas, 1:23.322, 9 laps;
8. Charles Pic, 1:24.379, 17 laps;
9. Jules Bianchi, 1:32.493, 7 laps;
10. Luiz Razia, 1:42.379, 7 laps;
11. Pedro de la Rosa, No time, 2 laps.

.Esteban Gutierrez who's stalled in the middle of the track. Red flag is back out again.The Sauber may have just conked out actually looking at the screens now, it's stranded between turns 11 and 12

+ Show Spoiler [10:19] +


1. Sebastian Vettel, 1:18.789, 24 laps;
2. Kimi Raikkonen, 1:19.157, 15 laps;
3. Jean-Eric Vergne, 1:19.361, 17 laps;
4. Lewis Hamilton, 1:19.576, 27 laps;
5. Sergio Perez, 1:19.696, 16 laps;
6. Esteban Gutierrez, 1:19.823 28 laps;
7. Valtteri Bottas, 1:20.683, 19 laps;
8. Charles Pic, 1:24.379, 22 laps;
9. Jules Bianchi, 1:32.493, 7 laps;
10. Luiz Razia, 1:42.379, 7 laps;
11. Pedro de la Rosa, No time, 2 laps.


First lap back out of the pits and Sergio Perez improves to third with a time of 1:19.198 with what seemed to be the hard tyres. Sergio arrives at the party!!!

+ Show Spoiler [10:40] +

1. Esteban Gutierrez, 1:18.669, 47 laps;
2. Sebastian Vettel, 1:18.789, 38 laps;
3. Kimi Raikkonen, 1:19.157, 20 laps;
4. Sergio Perez, 1:19.198, 27 laps;
5. Jean-Eric Vergne, 1:19.331, 26 laps;
6. Lewis Hamilton, 1:19.576, 38 laps;
7. Valtteri Bottas, 1:20.631, 20 laps;
8. Jules Bianchi, 1:20.585, 29 laps;
9. Charles Pic, 1:23.562, 29 laps;
10. Luiz Razia, 1:28.067, 26 laps;
11. Pedro de la Rosa, No time, 2 laps.

Gutierrez posts the best time of the day, but he is on Soft tyres. Kimi and Vettel are going around on Medium's whilst Perez is on hards.

+ Show Spoiler [11:09] +


1. Sebastian Vettel, 1:18.565, 41 laps;
2. Esteban Gutierrez, 1:18.669, 49 laps;
3. Kimi Raikkonen, 1:18.915, 22 laps;
4. Sergio Perez, 1:19.198, 33 laps;
5. Lewis Hamilton, 1:19.291, 43 laps;
6. Jean-Eric Vergne, 1:19.331, 32 laps;
7. Jules Bianchi, 1:20.585, 22 laps;
8. Valtteri Bottas, 1:20.631, 29 laps;
9. Charles Pic, 1:23.562, 30 laps;
10. Luiz Razia, 1:28.067, 28 laps;
11. Pedro de la Rosa, No time, 2 laps.


+ Show Spoiler [11:40] +


1. Sebastian Vettel, 1:18.565, 56 laps;
2. Esteban Gutierrez, 1:18.669, 52 laps;
3. Lewis Hamilton, 1:18.905, 57 laps;
4. Kimi Raikkonen, 1:18.915, 29 laps;
5. Sergio Perez, 1:18.944, 42 laps;
6. Jean-Eric Vergne, 1:19.331, 37 laps;
7. Valtteri Bottas, 1:20.426, 39 laps;
8. Jules Bianchi, 1:20.585, 22 laps;
9. Charles Pic, 1:23.562, 30 laps;
10. Luiz Razia, 1:28.067, 28 laps;
11. Pedro de la Rosa, No time, 2 laps.


Hamilton puts in a 1.18.9 in on Medium tyres.

1. Sebastian Vettel, 1:18.565, 56 laps (H);
2. Esteban Gutierrez, 1:18.669, 52 laps (S);
3. Lewis Hamilton, 1:18.905 (M), 59 laps;
4. Kimi Raikkonen (M), 1:18.915, 30 laps;
5. Sergio Perez, 1:18.944 (H), 43 laps;
6. Jean-Eric Vergne, 1:19.331, 37 laps;
7. Valtteri Bottas, 1:20.426, 39 laps;
8. Jules Bianchi, 1:20.585, 34 laps;
9. Charles Pic, 1:23.562, 41 laps;
10. Luiz Razia, 1:25.796, 32 laps;
11. Pedro de la Rosa, No time, 2 laps.
(H)= Hard Tyres (M)= Medium (S)= Soft

Well, it looks like that RB8 is darn quick. Posting a 1.18.5 on Hard tyres. Looks like their set up today is pretty quick.
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lightrise
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1355 Posts
February 08 2013 08:55 GMT
#130
I am super excited for this season. Alonso really needs to have a damn good car this year and not get the total shaft and he might be destroying people this year. I have really liked vettel ever since his test days where he took over for the injured driver. I also have to root for lewis because I was on his band wagon when he first came to the circuit. I am also glad that kimi came back last year to race f1 because he couldn't do shit in a rally car. Just looking at the lineups it feels like there is some serious driving potential in the field.
Awesome german interviewer: "What was your idea going into games against Idra" "I WANTED TO USE A CHEESE STRATEGY BECAUSE IDRA IS KNOWN TO TILT AFTER LOSING TO SOMETHING GAY" Demuslim
mijagi182
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland797 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-08 10:55:47
February 08 2013 10:55 GMT
#131
http://www.motorsport-magazin.com/formel1/news-161956-mercedes-testet-passives-doppel-drs-antwort-auf-aktives-doppel-drs-verbot.html

mercs passive drs solution looks strange.
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Chewits
Profile Joined September 2006
Northern Ireland1200 Posts
February 08 2013 12:46 GMT
#132
Lewis in the Merc this morning. Nice shot

[image loading]

Photo: Pete Gill
Whats the altitude?
LOLItsRyann
Profile Joined April 2011
England551 Posts
February 08 2013 12:55 GMT
#133
On February 08 2013 17:44 Pandemona wrote:
Well, it looks like that RB8 is darn quick. Posting a 1.18.5 on Hard tyres. Looks like their set up today is pretty quick.


It's because of Infiniti. Purple makes them go fast.
EG<3
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
February 08 2013 12:59 GMT
#134
On February 08 2013 21:55 LOLItsRyann wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2013 17:44 Pandemona wrote:
Well, it looks like that RB8 is darn quick. Posting a 1.18.5 on Hard tyres. Looks like their set up today is pretty quick.


It's because of Infiniti. Purple makes them go fast.


xD that work on the same basis as "go faster stripes" on cars/bikes? xD
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Lachrymose
Profile Joined February 2008
Australia1928 Posts
February 08 2013 13:04 GMT
#135
On February 08 2013 21:59 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2013 21:55 LOLItsRyann wrote:
On February 08 2013 17:44 Pandemona wrote:
Well, it looks like that RB8 is darn quick. Posting a 1.18.5 on Hard tyres. Looks like their set up today is pretty quick.


It's because of Infiniti. Purple makes them go fast.


xD that work on the same basis as "go faster stripes" on cars/bikes? xD


Red cars go faster.

What happens when you add red to blue?

Bingo. Stealth Paint Hacking.
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-08 16:17:48
February 08 2013 13:23 GMT
#136
+ Show Spoiler [13:18] +


1. Jules Bianchi, 1:18.175s (S), 45 laps;
2. Sebastian Vettel, 1:18.565, 56 laps (H);
3. Esteban Gutierrez, 1:18.669, 64 laps (S);
4. Lewis Hamilton, 1:18.905 (M), 59 laps;
5. Kimi Raikkonen (M), 1:18.915, 36 laps;
6. Sergio Perez, 1:18.944 (H), 49 laps;
7. Jean-Eric Vergne, 1:19.331, 45 laps;
8. Valtteri Bottas, 1:20.426, 39 laps;
9. Charles Pic, 1:21.919, 54 laps;
10. Pedro de la Rosa, 1:23.188, 10 laps;
11. Luiz Razia, 1:25.796, 47 laps.


+ Show Spoiler [14:12] +


1. Jules Bianchi, 1:18.175s (S), 56 laps;
2. Kimi Raikkonen, 1:18.326, 46 laps (S);
3. Sebastian Vettel, 1:18.565, 60 laps (H);
4. Esteban Gutierrez, 1:18.669, 96 laps (S);
5. Lewis Hamilton, 1:18.905 (M), 80 laps;
6. Sergio Perez, 1:18.944 (H), 69 laps;
7. Jean-Eric Vergne, 1:19.331, 57 laps;
8. Valtteri Bottas, 1:20.426, 46 laps;
9. Pedro de la Rosa, 1:21.046, 26 laps;
10. Charles Pic, 1:21.919, 68 laps;
11. Luiz Razia, 1:24.408, 72 laps.


+ Show Spoiler [14:57] +


1. Jules Bianchi, 1:18.175s (S), 56 laps;
2. Kimi Raikkonen, 1:18.326, 51 laps (S);
3. Sebastian Vettel, 1:18.565, 74 laps (H);
4. Esteban Gutierrez, 1:18.669, 120 laps (S);
5. Lewis Hamilton, 1:18.905 (M), 109 laps;
6. Sergio Perez, 1:18.944 (H), 69 laps;
7. Jean-Eric Vergne, 1:19.331, 69 laps;
8. Valtteri Bottas, 1:19.851, 57 laps;
9. Pedro de la Rosa, 1:20.316, 34 laps;
10. Charles Pic, 1:21.919, 84 laps;
11. Paul di Resta, 1:23.435, 14 laps;
12. Luiz Razia, 1:24.408, 75 laps


+ Show Spoiler [15:03] +


1. KImi Raikkonen, 1:18.148 (S), 55 laps;
2. Jules Bianchi, 1:18.175 (S), 56 laps;
3. Sebastian Vettel, 1:18.565, 75 laps (H);
4. Esteban Gutierrez, 1:18.669, 120 laps (S);
5. Lewis Hamilton, 1:18.905 (M), 111 laps;
6. Sergio Perez, 1:18.944 (H), 69 laps;
7. Jean-Eric Vergne, 1:19.331, 69 laps;
8. Valtteri Bottas, 1:19.851, 60 laps;
9. Pedro de la Rosa, 1:20.316, 34 laps;
10. Charles Pic, 1:21.919, 88 laps;
11. Paul di Resta, 1:23.435, 14 laps;
12. Luiz Razia, 1:24.408, 75 laps.


Kimi goes fastest with a few laps on some Soft tyres.

+ Show Spoiler [15:40] +


1. KImi Raikkonen, 1:18.148 (S), 73 laps;
2. Jules Bianchi, 1:18.175 (S), 56 laps;
3. Sebastian Vettel, 1:18.565, 86 laps (H);
4. Esteban Gutierrez, 1:18.669, 123 laps (S);
5. Lewis Hamilton, 1:18.905 (M), 128 laps;
6. Sergio Perez, 1:18.944 (H), 82 laps;
7. Jean-Eric Vergne, 1:19.331, 72 laps;
8. Valtteri Bottas, 1:19.851, 67 laps;
9. Pedro de la Rosa, 1:20.316, 39 laps;
10. Charles Pic, 1:21.105, 98 laps;
11. Paul di Resta, 1:23.435, 29 laps;
12. Luiz Razia, 1:24.408, 75 laps.


@16:04 GMT (+00:00)

1. Kimi Raikkonen, 1:18.148 (S), 74 laps;
2. Jules Bianchi, 1:18.175 (S), 56 laps;
3. Sebastian Vettel, 1:18.565, 96 laps (H);
4. Esteban Gutierrez, 1:18.669, 135 laps (S);
5. Jean-Eric Vergne 1:18.760 (S), 87 laps;
6. Lewis Hamilton, 1:18.905 (M), 140 laps;
7. Sergio Perez, 1:18.944 (H), 91 laps;
8. Valtteri Bottas, 1:19.851, 81 laps;
9. Pedro de la Rosa, 1:20.316, 46 laps;
10. Charles Pic, 1:21.105, 103 laps;
11. Luiz Razia, 1:21.226, 78 laps;
12. Paul di Resta, 1:23.435, 41 laps;
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Vagabond
Profile Joined April 2011
Scotland149 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-09 18:10:01
February 09 2013 18:09 GMT
#137
Reports just in that David Couthards sister has been found dead at her home.

http://news.sky.com/story/1049964/f1-david-coulthards-sister-found-dead

My condolances to David and his family.
Drone untill i die.
zere
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany1287 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-10 19:35:35
February 10 2013 19:35 GMT
#138
Just leaving this from Spa '12 here.

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Aristodemus
Profile Joined January 2011
England2010 Posts
February 12 2013 15:42 GMT
#139
You know, if Kimi had not gone for a tour of Sao Paulo in the final race he would have completed every lap of every race last year. A very difficult thing to achieve.
once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
February 12 2013 15:50 GMT
#140
You know what? I'm gonna follow Formula1 this year. Thanks for the OP, zere!
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