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kaluro
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands760 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-10 20:39:25
April 10 2013 20:39 GMT
#901
I tested my 1RMs on the bench press and overhead press today:

Bench Press:
5x20kg
5x60kg
5x70kg
5x 80kg
90kg FAIL
1x 85kg
1x 90kg (succes!)

Overhead press:
5x 40kg
3x 50kg
1x 60kg
1x 62.5kg

But I also did flyes after the bench press, before the overhead press. That might have lowered my 1RM, I'm not sure.
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decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20077 Posts
April 10 2013 21:39 GMT
#902
On April 10 2013 23:47 Vitruvian wrote:
Yesterday's workout:
Squat: double @ 365, single @ 390 / 395 / 400 (PR)
Press: 3 sets 5 reps @ 140
Clean: 3 doubles @ 225

Feels so accomplished to join the 400 club! :D /brag

Nice!!!
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-10 23:59:29
April 10 2013 22:25 GMT
#903
tested 5rm bench today, came in at my all-time 5rm. been lifting on a bb-style routine for 4 months, after not benching for more than a year and starting with a 5rm below half of what im doing now.


feels pretty good. my hip is also much improved... not sure what im going to do going forward. Either stick with this routine, or maybe try out a 5/3/1 type thing for a while if I end up being able to squat and dead?
Donkeys
Profile Joined August 2010
Mexico308 Posts
April 10 2013 23:37 GMT
#904
Today:

snatch+hang snatch (knee)+sn push press+OHS - 115, 125, 135, 140 (PR), 145 (PR), 150x
hang snatch (below knee) 115x7 LOL, this was a PR by 1 rep. On the last rep the bar touched my hair, tired legs made me go under faster
clean doubles up to 185
rack jerks - 185, 195, 205, 205, 220x, 220x, 220x, 205
front squat - 205x3, 220x3, 220x3, 225x2

Abs still so sore from sunday/monday training.
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Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
April 11 2013 01:26 GMT
#905
^ You scared me because I thought it was kgs haha
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
Donkeys
Profile Joined August 2010
Mexico308 Posts
April 11 2013 03:42 GMT
#906
On April 11 2013 10:26 Cambium wrote:
^ You scared me because I thought it was kgs haha

hahaha I wish!
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Vitruvian
Profile Joined September 2011
United States168 Posts
April 11 2013 04:42 GMT
#907
On April 11 2013 03:51 NeedsmoreCELLTECH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2013 23:47 Vitruvian wrote:
Yesterday's workout:
Squat: double @ 365, single @ 390 / 395 / 400 (PR)
Press: 3 sets 5 reps @ 140
Clean: 3 doubles @ 225

Feels so accomplished to join the 400 club! :D /brag

Gratz! At what bodyweight?


I've been eating like a bear coming out of hibernation, so I'm probably up around 185 lbs now. Gonna dial it back to a recomp diet for my vanity's sake
zar11
Profile Joined September 2012
United States26 Posts
April 11 2013 09:08 GMT
#908
SL5x5 recommends starting at the bar or at least much lower than max at 5x5 so you don't stall to early. Totally up to you as SS has you go up to when the bar slows down on your 3x5. If you're just coming back it can be helpful to start a little easy so you have some momentum coming in and can focus on nailing the form before maximum efforts come. Bad form at your body's max leads to injuries most if not all the time
Also there's no doubt in my mind you can make your goals if you are consistent, even if you start lower and work up.


Thanks for the advice I've been doing some bodywieght exercises the past few weeks to get back into the hang of things, and my first 5x5 workouts felt pretty good so I'll probably continue on doing heavier weights. But I'll definitely be really careful about form and back down on the weight if it's an issue (esp with deadlift) as the last thing I need is an injury.
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
April 11 2013 09:34 GMT
#909
On April 11 2013 18:08 zar11 wrote:
Show nested quote +
SL5x5 recommends starting at the bar or at least much lower than max at 5x5 so you don't stall to early. Totally up to you as SS has you go up to when the bar slows down on your 3x5. If you're just coming back it can be helpful to start a little easy so you have some momentum coming in and can focus on nailing the form before maximum efforts come. Bad form at your body's max leads to injuries most if not all the time
Also there's no doubt in my mind you can make your goals if you are consistent, even if you start lower and work up.


Thanks for the advice I've been doing some bodywieght exercises the past few weeks to get back into the hang of things, and my first 5x5 workouts felt pretty good so I'll probably continue on doing heavier weights. But I'll definitely be really careful about form and back down on the weight if it's an issue (esp with deadlift) as the last thing I need is an injury.


If anything, it's good to start "too light" - if you start 30, or even 60 pounds too light, and spend 3 (or even 6) weeks working up to your real max, congrats - you just got three weeks where you should have been drilling good form into yourself. Now you're going to make progress. If you start 20 pounds too heavy, you're going to spend 2-3 weeks killing yourself, feel awful, make little or no progress, then reset, still make little progress, reset again, and then build up from where you should have started in the first place, losing more time than you would have by starting light - and that's best case. Worst case, you hurt yourself and can't even do light work for 8 weeks, then have to start light anyway because you've lost strength and are afraid of re-injuring the area.

There's a reason SL says to start with the bar - that's not always necessary, especially if you have someone to watch your form, but you should DEFINITELY not be hitting any new maxes until you're a few weeks into a new program, unless you've never lifted before (in which case everything is a max...). Even the SS "go until the bar speed slows" is probably going to lead to an overestimated max by new lifters who don't have a gym partner to watch them do the lift.
KOVU
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark708 Posts
April 11 2013 11:53 GMT
#910
^Always start "too light", leave your ego behind when you enter the gym - Getting injured sucks, avoid it. And the more reps you do with light weight and good form the merrier. The coach at my gym always has people do ~20 sets of 5's with low low weight when he's reviewing their form, your CNS needs to learn the movement, and you need to learn it well before you can stack on the plates
zar11
Profile Joined September 2012
United States26 Posts
April 11 2013 23:58 GMT
#911
Well based on the recommendations here I'll go ahead and start lighter and work my way back up to my current maxes for the first few weeks, focusing on my form. Plus I don't have an experienced gym partner with me to watch my form, so I guess it's better to be safe than sorry.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20077 Posts
April 12 2013 02:31 GMT
#912
Blah fucking traffic. Cut out like 30 min of my workout.

High hang clean 40 60 70 80 90 100 110 115 120 125
clean 125 130 135 140 145 150x 150
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4731 Posts
April 12 2013 08:38 GMT
#913
06.04.2013

Push Press
weight sets reps
86 3 3

Front Squat
weight sets reps
115 3 3

Chin Up
weight sets reps
+15 3 2-3-2f

Dip
weight sets reps
+15 3 7-7-6




09.04.2013

Squat
weight sets reps
143,5 1 9

Overhead Press
weight sets reps
70 1 8

Deadlift
weight sets reps
166 1 8

Pull Up
weight sets reps
+10 2 3

Dragon Flag
weight sets reps
bw 2 4-2


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Ahzz
Profile Joined May 2007
Finland780 Posts
April 12 2013 08:54 GMT
#914
Malinor, what kind of program are you following? I mean, I see each session with different sets and reps and it confuses a noob like me
also, 70 kg OHP x8, stronggggg....
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4731 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-12 09:36:54
April 12 2013 09:35 GMT
#915
It's a self written bastard version of Texas Method and 5/3/1...

Basically I'm doing 5x5 on Day1 (Squat, OHP), 3x3 on Day2 with variations of the lifts (Push Press, Front Squat), and 1set to max on Day3, plus Deadlift. I go for as many reps as possible with reasonable form and cycle the rep range like in 5/3/1, which means I set up the weights I'm going to hit for three weeks in advance.
Pulling is a little bit different, I just go for whatever I feel like, since I want to incooperate Chin Ups Pull Ups (both weighted and unweighted) and Pendlay Rows. Plus, 5x5 weighted Chin Ups is literally so painful that I've pussied out from doing that.
Dips are also totally freestyle, but trying to do them at least twice a week, it is such a great exercise.

It works really really well so far, but since I gained ~8kg this year it is only normal that I've gotten stronger. I am trying to lose 10kg during the next three months, so let's see what happens then.

And I was really proud of the 70x8 OHP. pressing is really going well at the moment. Since so many people struggle with overhead work, I can only confirm that you have to do it a lot to get better at it. I also incoorporate Bethind The Neck and Klokow Presses into my warm up sets to strengthen all the muscles in the shoulder girdle.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
Thor.Rush
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden702 Posts
April 12 2013 10:33 GMT
#916
On April 12 2013 18:35 Malinor wrote:
And I was really proud of the 70x8 OHP. pressing is really going well at the moment. Since so many people struggle with overhead work, I can only confirm that you have to do it a lot to get better at it. I also incoorporate Bethind The Neck and Klokow Presses into my warm up sets to strengthen all the muscles in the shoulder girdle.

As in more than once a week?
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kaluro
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands760 Posts
April 12 2013 12:00 GMT
#917
It would be SO much more convenient to write down whether you're using Kilograms or pounds or any other weight measurement, rather than just numbers.
www.twitch.tv/kaluroo - 720p60fps - Remember the name! - Don't do your best, do whatever it takes.
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4731 Posts
April 12 2013 12:10 GMT
#918
Overhead work three times a week.

Maybe I'll add the kg metric. But normally it is pretty obvious to tell by just looking at the numbers. At least for me.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
kaluro
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands760 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-12 12:15:19
April 12 2013 12:14 GMT
#919
On April 12 2013 21:10 Malinor wrote:
Overhead work three times a week.

Maybe I'll add the kg metric. But normally it is pretty obvious to tell by just looking at the numbers. At least for me.


Beginners would squat 140lbs and deadlift 160lbs for example .
And strong people would do a 220kg deadlift, while intermediates would be at 220lbs etc.

If you do overhead work 3 times a week, do you also keep including other presses (Dips, (close grip)bench press, dumbell press [decline/incline/flat])? As that would put enormous volume stress on your front deltoids, and I don't know if they can sustain that for longer periods.

Or do you do it like rippetoe, where you do one push per workout?
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mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
April 12 2013 12:28 GMT
#920
It's been brought up before. Many people do provide the metric they're using for the weights. If you spend enough time on the forum, most people know where everyone else is at so it's not a big deal
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