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decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20053 Posts
October 03 2013 13:41 GMT
#2021
On October 03 2013 08:09 Arisen wrote:
Another Squat Form Check at 145



Man, it's super frustrating. This is like 4 or something workouts with the same reduced weight squat, I just can't get my back any straighter. I'm working hard on keeping everything tight and my chest up, and I'm doing the heel/ankle mobilization exercises, and It's not getting any better, I think. My traps are beginning to hurt resting the bar there with no pad.

On an up note, my heels are definitely closer to the ground in an idea (assisted) position, so something is improving.

Still at 85 Lb Press; down from 95 2 weeks ago just faling short on the 3rd set to only being able to do 1.5 sets with less weights. Super frustrating again.

I've been really trying to work super hard on my clean form, and It's going ok at least (can finish 3/5 of 3 rep sets), with 1 plate.


Dude those first couple reps were like a thousand times better than a week or two ago. It's going ot take little bit of time for the rest of your body to catch up with your leg strength since you changed technique. Keep hitting that mobility work!! (hips and ankles)
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10084 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-03 14:39:29
October 03 2013 14:29 GMT
#2022
On October 03 2013 22:41 decafchicken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2013 08:09 Arisen wrote:
Another Squat Form Check at 145

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tf0Ew-4n2W8&feature=youtu.be

Man, it's super frustrating. This is like 4 or something workouts with the same reduced weight squat, I just can't get my back any straighter. I'm working hard on keeping everything tight and my chest up, and I'm doing the heel/ankle mobilization exercises, and It's not getting any better, I think. My traps are beginning to hurt resting the bar there with no pad.

On an up note, my heels are definitely closer to the ground in an idea (assisted) position, so something is improving.

Still at 85 Lb Press; down from 95 2 weeks ago just faling short on the 3rd set to only being able to do 1.5 sets with less weights. Super frustrating again.

I've been really trying to work super hard on my clean form, and It's going ok at least (can finish 3/5 of 3 rep sets), with 1 plate.


Dude those first couple reps were like a thousand times better than a week or two ago. It's going ot take little bit of time for the rest of your body to catch up with your leg strength since you changed technique. Keep hitting that mobility work!! (hips and ankles)


damn... i think i have to rethink my form. also i dont get the "hip drive" thingy ... time to watch some rippetoe videos.

first video that youtube linked me


should i aim tho that form?
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
BenKen
Profile Joined August 2009
United States860 Posts
October 03 2013 14:40 GMT
#2023
@ Arisen LOL, two weeks ago I was secretly thinking "Fuck, this is going to be the first person to get paralyzed due to TLHF." Way better now. Just keep in mind what decaf, infinity and Phyre suggested, but I think you can start upping the weight again.

You've had a ton of cues thrown at you in the past two weeks, and it sucks to have to think about so many things, believe me I know. I've struggled with squat form too, and a lot of times I'd over think it and shit would just fall apart on weight that I should have just crushed. My suggestion would be to try to come up with a sequence you go through every time in your head. Just pick a few cues at first, and build from there.

On October 03 2013 20:55 infinity21 wrote:
-Keep your upper back tight
-Narrower stance
-Slower going down
-Let your knees move forward at the bottom


If you thought about only those four things (and take a big deep breath) and absolutely nothing else, you'd be well on your way.

You could build off of it too. Just go through the steps, and take every rep deadly serious. Warming up with the bar should have the exact same mental sequence and concentration as loading up your max.

Here's what goes through my head as an example. Every single rep:

1) get under the bar
2) get tight
3) walk out
4) deep breath (into abdomen, not chest) and hold it
5) slight break at hips
6) knees out!!!
7) explode
8) exhale at the top
9) goto 4) or re-rack

I bolded the important parts, but you probably get the idea anyway. Your sequence doesn't have to be exactly the same, but you should have a sequence in your head, something you can go into auto-pilot on. Breathe, hips, knees, explode. Breathe, hips, knees, explode. It's like staying on top of probes and pylons. The goal is to make it simple and make it automatic.

I know it's frustrating to be down in the low weights right now but you've made solid progress dude. Slap a little more weight on there and start having fun again.
I deadlift for Aiur
BenKen
Profile Joined August 2009
United States860 Posts
October 03 2013 14:59 GMT
#2024
On October 03 2013 23:29 Topin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2013 22:41 decafchicken wrote:
On October 03 2013 08:09 Arisen wrote:
Another Squat Form Check at 145

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tf0Ew-4n2W8&feature=youtu.be

Man, it's super frustrating. This is like 4 or something workouts with the same reduced weight squat, I just can't get my back any straighter. I'm working hard on keeping everything tight and my chest up, and I'm doing the heel/ankle mobilization exercises, and It's not getting any better, I think. My traps are beginning to hurt resting the bar there with no pad.

On an up note, my heels are definitely closer to the ground in an idea (assisted) position, so something is improving.

Still at 85 Lb Press; down from 95 2 weeks ago just faling short on the 3rd set to only being able to do 1.5 sets with less weights. Super frustrating again.

I've been really trying to work super hard on my clean form, and It's going ok at least (can finish 3/5 of 3 rep sets), with 1 plate.


Dude those first couple reps were like a thousand times better than a week or two ago. It's going ot take little bit of time for the rest of your body to catch up with your leg strength since you changed technique. Keep hitting that mobility work!! (hips and ankles)


damn... i think i have to rethink my form. also i dont get the "hip drive" thingy ... time to watch some rippetoe videos.

first video that youtube linked me
http://youtu.be/yha2XAc2qu8

should i aim tho that form?

Hip drive is basically a cue to fix beginners who don't use their posterior chain in the low-bar squat. You know how if someone is favoring one side of their body in a squat, you can tell them to exaggerate pointing their ass to the other side and they usually end up in the middle? Hip drive is the same thing for getting someone to use their hips to generate power. It's a useful lie to tell someone who is doing it wrong, but not really worth thinking about if you are already decent.
I deadlift for Aiur
infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
October 04 2013 22:26 GMT
#2025
Deadlifted for the first time in 1.5 months and hit 370lb. Although my PR is 385, that was at 180 BW and now I'm down to 171 so I have a better strength to body weight ratio now
Official Entusman #21
MtlGuitarist97
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1539 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-05 15:31:39
October 04 2013 22:41 GMT
#2026
3x5 squats 115 lbs
3x5 seated OHP 65 lbs
3x7 pull ups @BW

I feel like absolute shit today. Worked out with a borderline migraine (I used to get chronic migraines, haven't gotten one in a while). I'm super nauseous and have a terrible headache atm, but when I feel better I'll post a video of my squats. I would've done deadlifts today but I just feel like such crap that I really didn't want to push it too hard.
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-05 15:11:08
October 05 2013 15:10 GMT
#2027
bench 80kg
1st set 10 reps!!
second set BAM dropped it instantly lol

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(yes those are 20kg weights lol)
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BenKen
Profile Joined August 2009
United States860 Posts
October 07 2013 19:35 GMT
#2028
2x bodyweight squat! (330lbs@165)

First thought upon re-racking the bar: "I can't wait to tell teamliquid"
I deadlift for Aiur
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
October 07 2013 20:12 GMT
#2029
Heck yes, nice work benken! :D
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
October 07 2013 20:24 GMT
#2030
haha nice job benken

@ffgenerations, thats a cool setup
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
Arisen
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2382 Posts
October 08 2013 05:01 GMT
#2031
Tried to follow phyre's advice, but found the talk about hip extension to be eluding me. I tried to drive more with my hips this time and see if that was going toward the correct way or the incorrect way. Here's the result,



"If you're not angry, you're not paying attention"
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
October 08 2013 07:21 GMT
#2032
On October 08 2013 14:01 Arisen wrote:
Tried to follow phyre's advice, but found the talk about hip extension to be eluding me. I tried to drive more with my hips this time and see if that was going toward the correct way or the incorrect way. Here's the result,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-NFUnqL9kM&feature=youtu.be



"chest up, chest up, chest up"

Some of those reps were alright, but as far as keeping your chest up they weren't as good as the last vid.

You're doing better work with your hips too which is nice. How much are you stretching?

God that foot position makes my skin crawl. I feel like they're going to fall off at the ankle.
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
October 08 2013 07:37 GMT
#2033
On October 08 2013 16:21 phyre112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2013 14:01 Arisen wrote:
Tried to follow phyre's advice, but found the talk about hip extension to be eluding me. I tried to drive more with my hips this time and see if that was going toward the correct way or the incorrect way. Here's the result,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-NFUnqL9kM&feature=youtu.be



"chest up, chest up, chest up"

Some of those reps were alright, but as far as keeping your chest up they weren't as good as the last vid.

You're doing better work with your hips too which is nice. How much are you stretching?

God that foot position makes my skin crawl. I feel like they're going to fall off at the ankle.


Your toes are turned way too far out. You need your toes forward so you can create torque by driving your feet into the ground. Your arch is collapsing every time you come up from the bottom, putting a strain on your back/hips/achilles.

Perform this test: stand in neutral position with your toes straight ahead and clench your glutes as hard as possible. Next drive your feet into the ground, that is, push into the ground while trying to externally rotate your feet out, creating torque on your hip socket. You will be maintaining your arch this way which allows you to create force without bleeding torque.

Now to compare, point your toes out at 45 degree angles. Fire your glutes and hold them tight. Try to create torque by driving your foot into the ground and externally rotating them outwards to tighten up the hip socket. Your arch is going to collapse and you are going to be bleeding torque and setting yourself up for injury down the road.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
vlaric
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States412 Posts
October 08 2013 18:28 GMT
#2034
On October 08 2013 14:01 Arisen wrote:
Tried to follow phyre's advice, but found the talk about hip extension to be eluding me. I tried to drive more with my hips this time and see if that was going toward the correct way or the incorrect way. Here's the result,


def looking way better than the previous vid that u posted

don't know if u've seen this yet, but this vid helped me out A LOT.

Wannabe zerg player
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
October 08 2013 20:25 GMT
#2035
On October 08 2013 16:37 IgnE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2013 16:21 phyre112 wrote:
On October 08 2013 14:01 Arisen wrote:
Tried to follow phyre's advice, but found the talk about hip extension to be eluding me. I tried to drive more with my hips this time and see if that was going toward the correct way or the incorrect way. Here's the result,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-NFUnqL9kM&feature=youtu.be



"chest up, chest up, chest up"

Some of those reps were alright, but as far as keeping your chest up they weren't as good as the last vid.

You're doing better work with your hips too which is nice. How much are you stretching?

God that foot position makes my skin crawl. I feel like they're going to fall off at the ankle.


Your toes are turned way too far out. You need your toes forward so you can create torque by driving your feet into the ground. Your arch is collapsing every time you come up from the bottom, putting a strain on your back/hips/achilles.

Perform this test: stand in neutral position with your toes straight ahead and clench your glutes as hard as possible. Next drive your feet into the ground, that is, push into the ground while trying to externally rotate your feet out, creating torque on your hip socket. You will be maintaining your arch this way which allows you to create force without bleeding torque.

Now to compare, point your toes out at 45 degree angles. Fire your glutes and hold them tight. Try to create torque by driving your foot into the ground and externally rotating them outwards to tighten up the hip socket. Your arch is going to collapse and you are going to be bleeding torque and setting yourself up for injury down the road.


That's a great explanation of the thinking behind my last line.

but it's also something that's going to take a while (and a LOT of stretching) for you to get fully "right" so work on it, and understand that it's very important, but don't drive yourself crazy over it.
infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
October 08 2013 22:54 GMT
#2036
Got 255 bench and 305 squat today. Squat's finally making some progress after months of stalling. On track to smash 3 plates before end of year hopefully
Official Entusman #21
BenKen
Profile Joined August 2009
United States860 Posts
October 09 2013 00:01 GMT
#2037
Nice work infinity! Just 10 lbs to go, you've got 3 plates in you for sure.
I deadlift for Aiur
infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
October 09 2013 02:39 GMT
#2038
Thanks! Hopefully I can stay more consistent in 2014 and hit 300/400/450 at 170~180 BW
Official Entusman #21
ieatkids5
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States4628 Posts
October 10 2013 18:34 GMT
#2039
back in the gym after some weeks of being sick. didn't lose much strength, but my lower back feels tired as hell.

squat 4x4 170lb
ohp 4x4 65lb
dips 4x5 bw
leg lifts 3x8
deadlift 1x5 150lb
some stretching and foam rolling
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20053 Posts
October 10 2013 22:23 GMT
#2040
Buddy on the team dropped off a box full of supplements - creatine, glutamine, taurine, pre workout, aminos, protein, etc. pretty awesome.

squats - 135 225 315 365 405 425 445 455 465x
bench - 3x5 @ 225
BB Rows @ 135 supersetted with curls @ 75 both 3x8
Push press @ 135 - 5, 5, 10

had so much energy just burned out my upper body lol
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
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