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MtlGuitarist97
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1539 Posts
October 11 2013 00:36 GMT
#2041
On October 11 2013 03:34 ieatkids5 wrote:
back in the gym after some weeks of being sick. didn't lose much strength, but my lower back feels tired as hell.

squat 4x4 170lb
ohp 4x4 65lb
dips 4x5 bw
leg lifts 3x8
deadlift 1x5 150lb
some stretching and foam rolling

How is your squat so high compared to your deadlift?

I have the complete opposite problem you have. Also, iirc didn't you say you were in HS (I may be completely wrong) and what's your bw?
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
October 11 2013 01:03 GMT
#2042
On October 11 2013 09:36 MtlGuitarist97 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2013 03:34 ieatkids5 wrote:
back in the gym after some weeks of being sick. didn't lose much strength, but my lower back feels tired as hell.

squat 4x4 170lb
ohp 4x4 65lb
dips 4x5 bw
leg lifts 3x8
deadlift 1x5 150lb
some stretching and foam rolling

How is your squat so high compared to your deadlift?

I have the complete opposite problem you have. Also, iirc didn't you say you were in HS (I may be completely wrong) and what's your bw?



It's completely not worth comparing squats and deadlifts below 300 lbs minimum. It has more to do with mobility and form than it does to do with how strong you are in those lifts.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
MtlGuitarist97
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1539 Posts
October 11 2013 01:08 GMT
#2043
On October 11 2013 10:03 IgnE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2013 09:36 MtlGuitarist97 wrote:
On October 11 2013 03:34 ieatkids5 wrote:
back in the gym after some weeks of being sick. didn't lose much strength, but my lower back feels tired as hell.

squat 4x4 170lb
ohp 4x4 65lb
dips 4x5 bw
leg lifts 3x8
deadlift 1x5 150lb
some stretching and foam rolling

How is your squat so high compared to your deadlift?

I have the complete opposite problem you have. Also, iirc didn't you say you were in HS (I may be completely wrong) and what's your bw?



It's completely not worth comparing squats and deadlifts below 300 lbs minimum. It has more to do with mobility and form than it does to do with how strong you are in those lifts.

It seems natural/logical that the deadlift should be higher than the squat though.

At least on Starting Strength (what I'm doing) Rippetoe basically says that your DL should be higher than your squat so that you can introduce the power clean and not fall behind on the deadlift. Maybe I'm reading too much into it though.
BenKen
Profile Joined August 2009
United States860 Posts
October 11 2013 01:30 GMT
#2044
Yeah don't worry about how the lifts compare relative to each other for now. You're still training your body to just do the movements correctly, so like ignE said your numbers don't really reflect anything right now, other than the fact that you are a beginner (and there is nothing wrong with that!). Best to just concentrate on getting form down, getting mobility and stability in order, eating like an athlete and making sick progress with dem beginner gains.
I deadlift for Aiur
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
October 11 2013 01:34 GMT
#2045
On October 11 2013 10:08 MtlGuitarist97 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2013 10:03 IgnE wrote:
On October 11 2013 09:36 MtlGuitarist97 wrote:
On October 11 2013 03:34 ieatkids5 wrote:
back in the gym after some weeks of being sick. didn't lose much strength, but my lower back feels tired as hell.

squat 4x4 170lb
ohp 4x4 65lb
dips 4x5 bw
leg lifts 3x8
deadlift 1x5 150lb
some stretching and foam rolling

How is your squat so high compared to your deadlift?

I have the complete opposite problem you have. Also, iirc didn't you say you were in HS (I may be completely wrong) and what's your bw?



It's completely not worth comparing squats and deadlifts below 300 lbs minimum. It has more to do with mobility and form than it does to do with how strong you are in those lifts.

It seems natural/logical that the deadlift should be higher than the squat though.

At least on Starting Strength (what I'm doing) Rippetoe basically says that your DL should be higher than your squat so that you can introduce the power clean and not fall behind on the deadlift. Maybe I'm reading too much into it though.


I can't speak for ieatkids but my squat is similarly ahead of my deadlift but it's mostly just because I'm still uncomfortable with the deadlift and don't want to hurt myself by forcing extra weight up.
infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
October 11 2013 01:38 GMT
#2046
On October 11 2013 10:34 Najda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2013 10:08 MtlGuitarist97 wrote:
On October 11 2013 10:03 IgnE wrote:
On October 11 2013 09:36 MtlGuitarist97 wrote:
On October 11 2013 03:34 ieatkids5 wrote:
back in the gym after some weeks of being sick. didn't lose much strength, but my lower back feels tired as hell.

squat 4x4 170lb
ohp 4x4 65lb
dips 4x5 bw
leg lifts 3x8
deadlift 1x5 150lb
some stretching and foam rolling

How is your squat so high compared to your deadlift?

I have the complete opposite problem you have. Also, iirc didn't you say you were in HS (I may be completely wrong) and what's your bw?



It's completely not worth comparing squats and deadlifts below 300 lbs minimum. It has more to do with mobility and form than it does to do with how strong you are in those lifts.

It seems natural/logical that the deadlift should be higher than the squat though.

At least on Starting Strength (what I'm doing) Rippetoe basically says that your DL should be higher than your squat so that you can introduce the power clean and not fall behind on the deadlift. Maybe I'm reading too much into it though.


I can't speak for ieatkids but my squat is similarly ahead of my deadlift but it's mostly just because I'm still uncomfortable with the deadlift and don't want to hurt myself by forcing extra weight up.

Yup. Your lifts are only worth comparing once they start stalling/plateauing imo
Official Entusman #21
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
October 11 2013 02:02 GMT
#2047
On October 11 2013 10:08 MtlGuitarist97 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2013 10:03 IgnE wrote:
On October 11 2013 09:36 MtlGuitarist97 wrote:
On October 11 2013 03:34 ieatkids5 wrote:
back in the gym after some weeks of being sick. didn't lose much strength, but my lower back feels tired as hell.

squat 4x4 170lb
ohp 4x4 65lb
dips 4x5 bw
leg lifts 3x8
deadlift 1x5 150lb
some stretching and foam rolling

How is your squat so high compared to your deadlift?

I have the complete opposite problem you have. Also, iirc didn't you say you were in HS (I may be completely wrong) and what's your bw?



It's completely not worth comparing squats and deadlifts below 300 lbs minimum. It has more to do with mobility and form than it does to do with how strong you are in those lifts.

It seems natural/logical that the deadlift should be higher than the squat though.

At least on Starting Strength (what I'm doing) Rippetoe basically says that your DL should be higher than your squat so that you can introduce the power clean and not fall behind on the deadlift. Maybe I'm reading too much into it though.


IgnE is right, though the way he's going about saying it comes off as kind of dismissive/a dick. The answer to your question is "form/mobility/muscular imbalance from being weak overall."

the follow up to that answer is "keep squatting and pulling and it should balance out to deadlift being ahead of squats until you're at least in the 600-700lb range."
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
October 11 2013 02:55 GMT
#2048
I've squatted 565 but only ever pulled 585. Possibly because I find maxing deadlift to be way scarier than squats for some reason.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
ieatkids5
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States4628 Posts
October 11 2013 05:21 GMT
#2049
yeah pretty much what everyone else said. for me specifically, it's just when i first started working out, i put more effort in developing my squat than my deadlift and didn't consistently follow a program. i only seriously started to work on my deadlift a few weeks ago; add in inconsistency because of some personal issues and you get weird numbers lol.

i'm 22 btw, finished college and working now bw around 160 lbs, height is 5 11. skinny frame and a bit of fat around my waist and legs, maybe around 18-20% bodyfat would be my guess.
infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
October 11 2013 23:39 GMT
#2050
Whoo got 307 squat today after failing 295x3
Also did 14-14-14-14-14-14-16 chin-ups after
Official Entusman #21
ieatkids5
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States4628 Posts
October 13 2013 16:46 GMT
#2051
squat 4x5 170lb
pullups 4x3
db rows 3x5 45
dips 3x5
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
October 13 2013 18:12 GMT
#2052
On October 12 2013 08:39 infinity21 wrote:
Whoo got 307 squat today after failing 295x3
Also did 14-14-14-14-14-14-16 chin-ups after


wtf are u a spider?
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10125 Posts
October 14 2013 00:49 GMT
#2053
167.5kg squat... barely xD i cant train 3 times a week this month so im will try to stay in 160kg training only saturdays TT. Also i have a littl balance problem, apparently my left leg is stronger so im lifiting more in that side making my left thig bigger than my right one xD, any advice in how i can fix that?
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-14 04:23:58
October 14 2013 04:22 GMT
#2054
On October 14 2013 03:12 GoTuNk! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 08:39 infinity21 wrote:
Whoo got 307 squat today after failing 295x3
Also did 14-14-14-14-14-14-16 chin-ups after


wtf are u a spider?

lol no, I only have 2 arms
Aiming for 5x20 at bodyweight in one session

On October 14 2013 09:49 Topin wrote:
167.5kg squat... barely xD i cant train 3 times a week this month so im will try to stay in 160kg training only saturdays TT. Also i have a littl balance problem, apparently my left leg is stronger so im lifiting more in that side making my left thig bigger than my right one xD, any advice in how i can fix that?

Try weighted pistol squats on your right leg after squatting
Official Entusman #21
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
October 14 2013 04:25 GMT
#2055
^what infinity said. also make a conscious effort to shove your hips over to the weaker side when you squat.
BenKen
Profile Joined August 2009
United States860 Posts
October 14 2013 13:22 GMT
#2056
You might want to take a video of yourself squatting from directly behind. Sometimes even if I already know what I'm doing wrong, just seeing it helps me put the pieces together better.
I deadlift for Aiur
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
October 14 2013 20:08 GMT
#2057
It's also possible you have a structural or form problem so that it seems like your right leg is stronger, but you are actually just imbalanced for some other reason.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
kaluro
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands760 Posts
October 14 2013 20:14 GMT
#2058
I have two videos, any advice on form, I feel I have it down okay-ish but I'm always in for some improvements.

5x135kg deadlift, my grip failed after the 3rd rep so I switched to mixed grip.


5x90kg bench press, I feel my bench technique is pretty spot on, I lower it to my nipples, and raise it back up to above my shoulders.
www.twitch.tv/kaluroo - 720p60fps - Remember the name! - Don't do your best, do whatever it takes.
Recognizable
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Netherlands1552 Posts
October 14 2013 21:16 GMT
#2059
Name of song^.^?
kaluro
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands760 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-14 21:25:27
October 14 2013 21:25 GMT
#2060
On October 15 2013 06:16 Recognizable wrote:
Name of song^.^?


Arch enemy - Hybrids of steel.

Also here's a video of my girlfriend bench pressing 5x35kg today :-P her balance is a bit off still but it was kind of a max effort so..


www.twitch.tv/kaluroo - 720p60fps - Remember the name! - Don't do your best, do whatever it takes.
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