• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 02:52
CET 07:52
KST 15:52
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy7ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book20Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289
Community News
Weekly Cups (March 16-22): herO doubles, Cure surprises3Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool48Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win42026 KungFu Cup Announcement6BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled12
StarCraft 2
General
What mix of new & old maps do you want in the next ladder pool? (SC2) Potential Updates Coming to the SC2 CN Server Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool
Tourneys
StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) WardiTV Mondays Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament World University TeamLeague (500$+) | Signups Open RSL Season 4 announced for March-April
Strategy
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Frigid Storage Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026]
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone Mutation # 517 Distant Threat Mutation # 516 Specter of Death
Brood War
General
Recent recommended BW games ASL21 General Discussion Gypsy to Korea RepMastered™: replay sharing and analyzer site KK Platform will provide 1 million CNY
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues 2026 Changsha Offline Cup [ASL21] Ro24 Group B [ASL21] Ro24 Group A
Strategy
What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Darkest Dungeon General RTS Discussion Thread Path of Exile
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Cricket [SPORT] Formula 1 Discussion Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Money Laundering In Video Ga…
TrAiDoS
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 5430 users

TL Health and Fitness Initiative 2013 - Page 142

Forum Index > Sports
Post a Reply
Prev 1 140 141 142 143 144 180 Next
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19198 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-18 23:00:58
October 18 2013 22:49 GMT
#2821
Your hooks are still too low

Anyway, a cue I got from one of my coaches was to breath in until you can't anymore, then hold it. Then suck your abs in towards your spine. You can do this while just standing (without a bar), then poke yourself in the stomach. You'll feel how damn rigid you can get your core. If you set up like that, squat, then come back up, you can breath out and reset.

[edit]
a clear example of this is in a video in the powerlifting thread:


1 minute 27 seconds, if embedding at a timestamp doesn't work.
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-18 23:35:39
October 18 2013 23:32 GMT
#2822


IT HAS STARTED


World weightlifting championships this sunday!!!


also an entertaining blog to read for updates about the competition.
http://thehumancircus.hookgrip.com/
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
October 18 2013 23:45 GMT
#2823
On October 19 2013 06:39 MtlGuitarist97 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2013 06:36 AsnSensation wrote:
yeah when you reach the lowest point the bar still "collapses" on you due to the lack of flex'd abs and chest up I think which transitions the whole movement into the "squat-morning"

Also it's hard to tell from this angle but I think you could go even narrower with your stance. I don't know about the others here but personally I barely go further than shoulder width when doing Highbar.

The stance really isn't that much wider than shoulder width (it looks pretty bad in the videos, I will admit) but I really can't go narrower. I really just don't have the mobility yet.



post us a video of you front squatting
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-19 00:35:43
October 19 2013 00:35 GMT
#2824
Surprised this hasn't already been mentioned (maybe because sJarl isn't around as much) but Game of Thrones decided to recast the mountain this season which is great, considering the last guy to play him (although tall) was pretty much a stick.

This season it's going to be Hafþór Björnsson, the 6'9 400 lb strongman from iceland.

[image loading]

The woman in that picture is 5'6, for comparison. Damn that's a big sword. His character has a much bigger role in the upcoming seasons (unless there's significant rewriting from the books) so I can't wait to see how it turns out.
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
October 19 2013 01:34 GMT
#2825
Yep, that guy looks much more like I imagined the Mountain that Rides :p

There are way too many stout men with trimmed beards in that show though, hard to tell some apart.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
BrTarolg
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom3574 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-19 02:33:00
October 19 2013 02:29 GMT
#2826
On October 19 2013 06:39 MtlGuitarist97 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2013 06:36 AsnSensation wrote:
yeah when you reach the lowest point the bar still "collapses" on you due to the lack of flex'd abs and chest up I think which transitions the whole movement into the "squat-morning"

Also it's hard to tell from this angle but I think you could go even narrower with your stance. I don't know about the others here but personally I barely go further than shoulder width when doing Highbar.

The stance really isn't that much wider than shoulder width (it looks pretty bad in the videos, I will admit) but I really can't go narrower. I really just don't have the mobility yet.


The reason you're collapsing is because you're lacking tension in the right areas to keep your form straight.
Things that can *help* with this are
- Practising being really tight and strong and slow with a lighter weight
- Taking a breath and holding it in tight
- Tensing your abs and even the way you hold the bar on your back
- Thrusting and lifting using the power of your quads and hammies, and NOT your back to lift the bar up
- Going down slowly and deliberately and stopping BEFORE a resting position (as deep as you can to do so) and then thrusting from there - (i.e, don't compromise your lower back at the bottom of the squat to get your glutes deeper, instead work on your flexibility instead - for most people this will simply come naturally as you squat more. A deep squat comes from the angle from your femurs to your hips, not by bending your lower back - this causes buttwink)
- Lifting shoes. Yeah, it helps distribute your weight and keep your weight on your heels and keep your more stable etc.
- Staying more upright, you're squatting hi bar like a man after all

Generally once you get used to squatting, most of these things just become automatic and not a problem
BenKen
Profile Joined August 2009
United States860 Posts
October 19 2013 03:11 GMT
#2827
On October 19 2013 11:29 BrTarolg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2013 06:39 MtlGuitarist97 wrote:
On October 19 2013 06:36 AsnSensation wrote:
yeah when you reach the lowest point the bar still "collapses" on you due to the lack of flex'd abs and chest up I think which transitions the whole movement into the "squat-morning"

Also it's hard to tell from this angle but I think you could go even narrower with your stance. I don't know about the others here but personally I barely go further than shoulder width when doing Highbar.

The stance really isn't that much wider than shoulder width (it looks pretty bad in the videos, I will admit) but I really can't go narrower. I really just don't have the mobility yet.


The reason you're collapsing is because you're lacking tension in the right areas to keep your form straight.
Things that can *help* with this are
- Practising being really tight and strong and slow with a lighter weight
- Taking a breath and holding it in tight
- Tensing your abs and even the way you hold the bar on your back
- Thrusting and lifting using the power of your quads and hammies, and NOT your back to lift the bar up
- Going down slowly and deliberately and stopping BEFORE a resting position (as deep as you can to do so) and then thrusting from there - (i.e, don't compromise your lower back at the bottom of the squat to get your glutes deeper, instead work on your flexibility instead - for most people this will simply come naturally as you squat more. A deep squat comes from the angle from your femurs to your hips, not by bending your lower back - this causes buttwink)
- Lifting shoes. Yeah, it helps distribute your weight and keep your weight on your heels and keep your more stable etc.
- Staying more upright, you're squatting hi bar like a man after all

Generally once you get used to squatting, most of these things just become automatic and not a problem

Good stuff here.

If I could add to this Mtl, I have a friend that seems to have similar problems with form when he squats. Like, the guy can squat-morning 165x5, but it looks terrible (no offense, yours isn't as bad as my friend's).

One thing we tried today was first just seeing if he could even get into "ass to grass" position at the bottom of the squat. No weight, just get in position. He couldn't even do it without falling backwards, and had to help himself down by holding on to the rack. Yeah, part of his problem is mobility and he's been stretching and everything, but honestly I think stability is a bigger problem for him. He just doesn't have the strength in the right places (abs, hips, quads) to hold his body in the correct position to not fall over.

He was, however, able to do it while holding a 25lb plate at full arms length straight ahead of him to counter-balance his tendency to fall backwards. So he did a set with a 25lb plate, and then a few sets with a 10lb plate. His abs and quads were burning by the end of it, but it looked way better than what he was doing before. I don't know if this will work for you, but you might want to look into it.

Maybe during warm ups just see if you can hit the correct position at the bottom of a squat and hang out there for a bit as part of a dynamic stretching routine. It's a pretty common way to get loose for all types of athletes.

Obligatory Kstarr video:
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XwKnk16Zbs
I deadlift for Aiur
BrTarolg
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom3574 Posts
October 19 2013 16:21 GMT
#2828
On October 19 2013 12:11 BenKen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2013 11:29 BrTarolg wrote:
On October 19 2013 06:39 MtlGuitarist97 wrote:
On October 19 2013 06:36 AsnSensation wrote:
yeah when you reach the lowest point the bar still "collapses" on you due to the lack of flex'd abs and chest up I think which transitions the whole movement into the "squat-morning"

Also it's hard to tell from this angle but I think you could go even narrower with your stance. I don't know about the others here but personally I barely go further than shoulder width when doing Highbar.

The stance really isn't that much wider than shoulder width (it looks pretty bad in the videos, I will admit) but I really can't go narrower. I really just don't have the mobility yet.


The reason you're collapsing is because you're lacking tension in the right areas to keep your form straight.
Things that can *help* with this are
- Practising being really tight and strong and slow with a lighter weight
- Taking a breath and holding it in tight
- Tensing your abs and even the way you hold the bar on your back
- Thrusting and lifting using the power of your quads and hammies, and NOT your back to lift the bar up
- Going down slowly and deliberately and stopping BEFORE a resting position (as deep as you can to do so) and then thrusting from there - (i.e, don't compromise your lower back at the bottom of the squat to get your glutes deeper, instead work on your flexibility instead - for most people this will simply come naturally as you squat more. A deep squat comes from the angle from your femurs to your hips, not by bending your lower back - this causes buttwink)
- Lifting shoes. Yeah, it helps distribute your weight and keep your weight on your heels and keep your more stable etc.
- Staying more upright, you're squatting hi bar like a man after all

Generally once you get used to squatting, most of these things just become automatic and not a problem

Good stuff here.

If I could add to this Mtl, I have a friend that seems to have similar problems with form when he squats. Like, the guy can squat-morning 165x5, but it looks terrible (no offense, yours isn't as bad as my friend's).

One thing we tried today was first just seeing if he could even get into "ass to grass" position at the bottom of the squat. No weight, just get in position. He couldn't even do it without falling backwards, and had to help himself down by holding on to the rack. Yeah, part of his problem is mobility and he's been stretching and everything, but honestly I think stability is a bigger problem for him. He just doesn't have the strength in the right places (abs, hips, quads) to hold his body in the correct position to not fall over.

He was, however, able to do it while holding a 25lb plate at full arms length straight ahead of him to counter-balance his tendency to fall backwards. So he did a set with a 25lb plate, and then a few sets with a 10lb plate. His abs and quads were burning by the end of it, but it looked way better than what he was doing before. I don't know if this will work for you, but you might want to look into it.

Maybe during warm ups just see if you can hit the correct position at the bottom of a squat and hang out there for a bit as part of a dynamic stretching routine. It's a pretty common way to get loose for all types of athletes.

Obligatory Kstarr video:
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XwKnk16Zbs



Femur length is another aspect

Short femurs (genetics) make it much easier to stay upright

Lifting shoes may also help here
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-19 16:50:18
October 19 2013 16:44 GMT
#2829
That's a swedish demigod right there...

and Lu Xiaojun, just googled him and apparently he backsquats 300kg for 4x BW and Frontsquats 220kg for 3x bodyweight, all of my wats. Will there be a livestream for the World Championships?

for MtlGuitarist here's a little squatmotivation and an outline how your back should look during the excercise
Recognizable
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Netherlands1552 Posts
October 19 2013 17:36 GMT
#2830
That video keeps amazing me every time I watch it. He walks around with 250 kg's on his back the same way I walk around with 40 kg lol. Such amazing speed as well.
Donkeys
Profile Joined August 2010
Mexico308 Posts
October 19 2013 18:21 GMT
#2831
God damn Lu Xiaojun's back is fucking INSANE. This angle/lighting make it look even more impressive.

[image loading]
http://www.belowtherimyo.blogspot.com/
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
October 20 2013 10:49 GMT
#2832
Gotta ask again since I'm not sure about the schedule, but is there a stream for the Weightlifting Champ. ? Mainly interested in seeing the chinese power houses ^^
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
October 20 2013 13:47 GMT
#2833
Played 5 hours of ultimate yesterday (5 50min games with 10min breaks). First two games were a blast. Went downhill from there in terms of leg functionality XD. Really happy I only had cramping calves, tight groin and lower back, but no SI pain so I'll take that as a good sign. Wife didn't want to go the gym alone so I went and did some BB upper body stuff lol. Proceeded to eat a meal like every two hours until I went to bed.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
October 20 2013 14:21 GMT
#2834
I'm jealous, I haven't played any ultimate since I moved to Florida No one here plays. There was a rec sport league that had ultimate but they ended up cancelling due to lack of interest.
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-20 18:48:51
October 20 2013 18:25 GMT
#2835
asnsensation check this site for updates / streams for wwc
http://www.allthingsgym.com/2013wwc/


two different shots of lu xiaojun's 220kg snatch pull

[image loading]

[image loading]
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
MtlGuitarist97
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1539 Posts
October 20 2013 21:07 GMT
#2836
I am not working out today because all I did was work on squat stuff and try to do some ab exercises. I probably shouldn't substitute this for a whole workout, but I don't think I can squat after just holding the bottom of the squat position for a while and I don't want to just bench and work on cleans. I may do some dips and pull ups instead, but I'll see how I feel a bit later tonight.

Anyway, here's what I was doing. I took BenKen's idea (since IgnE suggested that I do goblet squats and I can't actually do goblet squats with a narrow stance and my front squat looked like shit) and held a plate out in front of me. It was only 10 lbs, but it seems to have done a lot for my squat. I'll keep doing that and try to do it every single day on top of stretching. I don't know if I can keep deeper while keeping my back naturally arched (or as close to it as my mobility permits).

AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
October 20 2013 21:39 GMT
#2837


48kg A session
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
Donkeys
Profile Joined August 2010
Mexico308 Posts
October 21 2013 04:41 GMT
#2838
GO MEXICO! We actually have some decent lifters lol.
http://www.belowtherimyo.blogspot.com/
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-21 05:54:15
October 21 2013 05:54 GMT
#2839
On October 21 2013 06:07 MtlGuitarist97 wrote:
I am not working out today because all I did was work on squat stuff and try to do some ab exercises. I probably shouldn't substitute this for a whole workout, but I don't think I can squat after just holding the bottom of the squat position for a while and I don't want to just bench and work on cleans. I may do some dips and pull ups instead, but I'll see how I feel a bit later tonight.

Anyway, here's what I was doing. I took BenKen's idea (since IgnE suggested that I do goblet squats and I can't actually do goblet squats with a narrow stance and my front squat looked like shit) and held a plate out in front of me. It was only 10 lbs, but it seems to have done a lot for my squat. I'll keep doing that and try to do it every single day on top of stretching. I don't know if I can keep deeper while keeping my back naturally arched (or as close to it as my mobility permits).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eizmCVyv3_w&feature=youtu.be


Yeah I would keep doing that. Sit in the bottom of the squat position for more than a couple minutes a day and keep upping the mobility. Not sure if your knees are moving out enough to make room for your torso since it still looks like you are bending forward quite a lot.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
October 21 2013 12:32 GMT
#2840
anyone been on fitocracy lately? seems all my past lifts have been deleted/lost :/ all it says now is Barbell Squat: 5 reps, 5 reps, 5 reps. no weights. just wondering if anyone else has that problem or if its just me!
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
Prev 1 140 141 142 143 144 180 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 3h 8m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
-ZergGirl 204
ProTech117
Livibee 87
StarCraft: Brood War
PianO 1332
Tasteless 327
Dewaltoss 108
Leta 104
sSak 83
scan(afreeca) 38
Noble 31
Zeus 0
Dota 2
febbydoto19
LuMiX1
League of Legends
JimRising 655
Counter-Strike
m0e_tv498
Stewie2K257
Other Games
WinterStarcraft503
C9.Mang0375
crisheroes264
Nina62
amsayoshi37
RuFF_SC229
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV89
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 45
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 11 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Sammyuel 32
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Upcoming Events
RSL Revival
3h 8m
Cure vs Zoun
herO vs Rogue
Platinum Heroes Events
8h 8m
BSL
13h 8m
RSL Revival
1d 3h
ByuN vs Maru
MaxPax vs TriGGeR
WardiTV Team League
1d 5h
BSL
1d 12h
Replay Cast
1d 17h
Replay Cast
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Light vs Calm
Royal vs Mind
Wardi Open
2 days
[ Show More ]
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
OSC
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Rush vs PianO
Flash vs Speed
Replay Cast
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
BeSt vs Leta
Queen vs Jaedong
Replay Cast
4 days
The PondCast
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
WardiTV Winter 2026
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
CSL Elite League 2026
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 1
ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
2026 Changsha Offline CUP
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
NationLESS Cup
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

CSL Season 20: Qualifier 2
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.