On August 15 2013 02:45 decafchicken wrote: I generally trust my body to do whats right. Thinking about it just gets in the way of thousands of years of evolution.
Worthy of note here is that this sort of advice is hardly one size fits all. Individual body mechanics can vary wildly among different people, particularly when it comes to hip mobility. For some, careful analysis and form critique is the only way to get the movement down pat. I only say this because I have a wider than normal squat stance that took quite a while to perfect, and a lot of my early lifting problems came from me attempting to imitate common movement forms without noticing the problems they posed for my body in particular.
Don't get me wrong though, there are plenty of people who take this too far.
I'm currently at about 130-135kg for my 3x5 (probably switching to 1x5 soon) worksets Squats. I have this weird problem if I go all the way atg that I can't prevent my ass from tucking under, which is a common problem, I think. I also feel like when going atg that I'm slightly "cheating" by bouncing the weight, kinda similar to the people I see bouncing the bar off their chest during benchpress.
So is it still ok if I only go the point of below parallel but not so deep that my ass tucks under? Or should I keep working on my technique, posture and core strength and aim for atg. Although, and don't quote on this, I feel like while doing Narrowstand, highbarsquats, it's almost impossible to completely prevent it.
On August 15 2013 02:07 infinity21 wrote: Interesting point about letting knees line up with toes at the bottom. Now that I think about it, whenever I intentionally try to keep my knees pushed out, I would always fail heavy squats. My knees would fall in line automatically if I don't think about it, presumably because that's where I generate the most power.
I tried the knees-in on the way up thing yesterday actually, after months of "must shove knees out!" mental cueing. I'd just read about it here over the weekend and wanted to give it a shot.
Felt more leg-press-like once I got used to it, which is encouraging since everybody can leg-press more than they can squat. I'm kinda shitty as squats though, fwiw.
Dan Green explains how to do it with a low-bar powerlifting style here:
On August 15 2013 02:45 decafchicken wrote: I generally trust my body to do whats right. Thinking about it just gets in the way of thousands of years of evolution.
Worthy of note here is that this sort of advice is hardly one size fits all. Individual body mechanics can vary wildly among different people, particularly when it comes to hip mobility. For some, careful analysis and form critique is the only way to get the movement down pat. I only say this because I have a wider than normal squat stance that took quite a while to perfect, and a lot of my early lifting problems came from me attempting to imitate common movement forms without noticing the problems they posed for my body in particular.
Don't get me wrong though, there are plenty of people who take this too far.
Yeah of course. But if someone has shit mobility they wont be able to go into a full squat without falling over or something feeling weird -> hopefully thats a cue to them to fix their mobility/technique. My mobility is alright so when i just let my body do its thing it works out and i can feel when my technique or mobility is out of place because it doesnt feel like the good reps.
Problem is beginners don't know how to recognize what a difficult rep feels like vs what a bad rep feels like. Sure you could get it right most of the time but the reason you think about it (in moderation ) is to prevent confusing the two.
On August 15 2013 03:11 mordek wrote: Problem is beginners don't know how to recognize what a difficult rep feels like vs what a bad rep feels like. Sure you could get it right most of the time but the reason you think about it (in moderation ) is to prevent confusing the two.
Yeah if we could just teach everyone proper technique when they're 13 and not old and decrepid like us we could fix the problem! :p
On August 15 2013 02:58 AsnSensation wrote: Little Question:
I'm currently at about 130-135kg for my 3x5 (probably switching to 1x5 soon) worksets Squats. I have this weird problem if I go all the way atg that I can't prevent my ass from tucking under, which is a common problem, I think. I also feel like when going atg that I'm slightly "cheating" by bouncing the weight, kinda similar to the people I see bouncing the bar off their chest during benchpress.
So is it still ok if I only go the point of below parallel but not so deep that my ass tucks under? Or should I keep working on my technique, posture and core strength and aim for atg. Although, and don't quote on this, I feel like while doing Narrowstand, highbarsquats, it's almost impossible to completely prevent it.
I believe the bouncing is all right. I have the ass problem as well. I'm doing some stretching exercises for my hamstrings to get that fixed.
On August 15 2013 02:58 AsnSensation wrote: Little Question:
I'm currently at about 130-135kg for my 3x5 (probably switching to 1x5 soon) worksets Squats. I have this weird problem if I go all the way atg that I can't prevent my ass from tucking under, which is a common problem, I think. I also feel like when going atg that I'm slightly "cheating" by bouncing the weight, kinda similar to the people I see bouncing the bar off their chest during benchpress.
So is it still ok if I only go the point of below parallel but not so deep that my ass tucks under? Or should I keep working on my technique, posture and core strength and aim for atg. Although, and don't quote on this, I feel like while doing Narrowstand, highbarsquats, it's almost impossible to completely prevent it.
Bouncing in squats is fine, you're just using the stretch reflex of your muscles and tendons to get out of the bottom more efficiently.
As for the butt wink, do your squats as low as you can before it happens. Keep on working on mobility till you can do it ATG.
I think "butt wink" is almost imaginary problem. Just keep squatting and working on your flexibility plus warming up/stretching properly. You should not stop unless you are in considerable pain. Bouncing on squat is proper way to do it. You are doing Squats, not "paused Squats"
I've wanted to park my car in a garage of my own for years. I finally have a garage to park it in, and after a few months I decide I'm going to park outside of it from now on.
Was getting a quick front squat sesh in before flag football and saw this stupid bimbo trying to teach this guy how to bench completely wrong so I step in to help. The guys talking about how what she was telling him hurt his shoulders and stuff, so i show him how to properly bench with his whole body and she's all "well thats like one way to like do it but.." And i'm just like "listen, i'm a competitive weightlifter, THIS IS HOW YOU DO IT" and she said some more stupid shit but i'm pretty sure the guy got the gist that i knew what i was talking about and this tiny blonde girl didn't.
Then went to my company intermural flag football game and trucked two kids over and ran a 60 yard touchdown LOL. Guess it's hard for them to grab my flags when i just say fuck it and run at them.
On August 15 2013 02:58 AsnSensation wrote: Little Question:
I'm currently at about 130-135kg for my 3x5 (probably switching to 1x5 soon) worksets Squats. I have this weird problem if I go all the way atg that I can't prevent my ass from tucking under, which is a common problem, I think. I also feel like when going atg that I'm slightly "cheating" by bouncing the weight, kinda similar to the people I see bouncing the bar off their chest during benchpress.
So is it still ok if I only go the point of below parallel but not so deep that my ass tucks under? Or should I keep working on my technique, posture and core strength and aim for atg. Although, and don't quote on this, I feel like while doing Narrowstand, highbarsquats, it's almost impossible to completely prevent it.
Bouncing in squats is fine, you're just using the stretch reflex of your muscles and tendons to get out of the bottom more efficiently.
As for the butt wink, do your squats as low as you can before it happens. Keep on working on mobility till you can do it ATG.
So, why is bouncing during bench pressing not allowed? You are using your ribcage more efficienctly to move the weight lol.
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