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NeedsmoreCELLTECH
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Netherlands1242 Posts
August 13 2013 23:23 GMT
#2021
On August 14 2013 05:12 decafchicken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2013 03:14 NeedsmoreCELLTECH wrote:
Didn't you have those bright red adidas? Aren't those considered the best right now, or in TL fashion the Best in Slot item?


Those are the new ones. The white ones are OG baller status because a) they're awesome and b) discontinued. Could probably sell them for a few hundred on ebay lols.

You guys need to stop thinking about oly lifting and just join the dark side already

I'm 6'5 so the roof in my gym is not high enough for me to stand up with a barbell loaded with bumper plates; I'm like one inch too high GG.
Get huge or die mirin | Diamond on LoL
MeShiet
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada290 Posts
August 14 2013 01:49 GMT
#2022
On August 14 2013 06:36 decafchicken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2013 05:41 phyre112 wrote:
On August 14 2013 05:12 decafchicken wrote:
On August 14 2013 03:14 NeedsmoreCELLTECH wrote:
Didn't you have those bright red adidas? Aren't those considered the best right now, or in TL fashion the Best in Slot item?


Those are the new ones. The white ones are OG baller status because a) they're awesome and b) discontinued. Could probably sell them for a few hundred on ebay lols.

You guys need to stop thinking about oly lifting and just join the dark side already


The white ones are the Adistar, right? I know they did them before they did the power perfect II. True baller status though.


Yeah. Coach found a pair of 12's lying around, I had to buy them! (I now have 3 pairs of lifting shoes and 3 gyms...i have a problem)

Decaf, you don't have a problem. The only problem you have is not having copies of yourself to use every pair of the shoes in every one of those gyms. This is coming from the guy who has to use hockey tape to keep his Romaleo 2s from detaching at the sole.
If you die this way, you won't live to tell anyone how you died
BenKen
Profile Joined August 2009
United States860 Posts
August 14 2013 02:18 GMT
#2023
Lol I've got a similar problem. Two gym memberships plus gym at school/work, and building a home gym. Lifting shoes, wrestling shoes for DL, running shoes for occasional HIIT stuff, and sambas for if I let my crossfit friends talk me into something stupid.

Of course, before lifting it was razer mouse, filco majestouch, pimpin multi-monitor setup, etc... It's always going to be something.
I deadlift for Aiur
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19267 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-14 03:54:15
August 14 2013 03:24 GMT
#2024
ey not all crossfit is awful

ding 12k
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
BenKen
Profile Joined August 2009
United States860 Posts
August 14 2013 03:36 GMT
#2025
On August 14 2013 12:24 tofucake wrote:
ey not all crossfit is awful

I never said ALL of it was bad, just the stuff my friends try to make me do.

For the record, I listen to the barbell shrugged podcast every week, so I'm not exactly a crossfit hater. I just don't like doing most metcons.
I deadlift for Aiur
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19267 Posts
August 14 2013 03:51 GMT
#2026
metcons are cool and not cf exclusive

also, your friends should not do stupid stuff.
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20176 Posts
August 14 2013 04:55 GMT
#2027
tofucake ALL CROSSFITTERS ARE BAD PEOPLE
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20176 Posts
August 14 2013 04:55 GMT
#2028
just kidding brah :D
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
August 14 2013 08:11 GMT
#2029
On August 13 2013 23:50 decafchicken wrote:
@osmoses - You're overthinking this. Just make sure your mobility is up to snuff then do squats that feel natural. There's nothing wrong with a narrower stance on the squat or putting the load on the quads (aka the biggest muscle group in your body)
+ Show Spoiler [protip: squatting with your quads can…] +

More on the case for quad dominant squatz:
http://www.jtsstrength.com/articles/2013/08/06/dan-green-on-knees-in-the-squat/

Also when you get proper depth it recruits the fuck out of your hamstrings and glutes.

took 4-5 days off. Squatted up to 455lbs at lunch yesterday then snatched up to 130kg in the afternoon. Oh the DOMS...IT FEELS SO GOOD.
p.s. lol @ running into girls i havent seen since high school(60 pounds of muscle ago) at the bar. They're so awestruck it's hilarious.


That reminds me of this video as well, both unbelievable and good narrow stance



KaoReal
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada340 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-14 09:01:28
August 14 2013 09:00 GMT
#2030
On August 14 2013 17:11 sc4k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2013 23:50 decafchicken wrote:
@osmoses - You're overthinking this. Just make sure your mobility is up to snuff then do squats that feel natural. There's nothing wrong with a narrower stance on the squat or putting the load on the quads (aka the biggest muscle group in your body)
+ Show Spoiler [protip: squatting with your quads can…] +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzT1lY-q-hg

More on the case for quad dominant squatz:
http://www.jtsstrength.com/articles/2013/08/06/dan-green-on-knees-in-the-squat/

Also when you get proper depth it recruits the fuck out of your hamstrings and glutes.

took 4-5 days off. Squatted up to 455lbs at lunch yesterday then snatched up to 130kg in the afternoon. Oh the DOMS...IT FEELS SO GOOD.
p.s. lol @ running into girls i havent seen since high school(60 pounds of muscle ago) at the bar. They're so awestruck it's hilarious.


That reminds me of this video as well, both unbelievable and good narrow stance

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcEsmhVag1c




It's unreal how quickly he moves under so much weight.
Life can only be understood backwards, but must be lived forward
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20176 Posts
August 14 2013 14:21 GMT
#2031
On August 14 2013 17:11 sc4k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2013 23:50 decafchicken wrote:
@osmoses - You're overthinking this. Just make sure your mobility is up to snuff then do squats that feel natural. There's nothing wrong with a narrower stance on the squat or putting the load on the quads (aka the biggest muscle group in your body)
+ Show Spoiler [protip: squatting with your quads can…] +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzT1lY-q-hg

More on the case for quad dominant squatz:
http://www.jtsstrength.com/articles/2013/08/06/dan-green-on-knees-in-the-squat/

Also when you get proper depth it recruits the fuck out of your hamstrings and glutes.

took 4-5 days off. Squatted up to 455lbs at lunch yesterday then snatched up to 130kg in the afternoon. Oh the DOMS...IT FEELS SO GOOD.
p.s. lol @ running into girls i havent seen since high school(60 pounds of muscle ago) at the bar. They're so awestruck it's hilarious.


That reminds me of this video as well, both unbelievable and good narrow stance

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcEsmhVag1c



But his knees track over his toes! and his elbows are down instead of up and back! He doesnt activate the hips by sitting back at all! Lol 90% of rip's lifters probably can't even walk out 330kg
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
August 14 2013 14:28 GMT
#2032
The longer I've been doing this stuff the less I like SS's squat advice :\
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
August 14 2013 14:29 GMT
#2033
On August 14 2013 23:21 decafchicken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2013 17:11 sc4k wrote:
On August 13 2013 23:50 decafchicken wrote:
@osmoses - You're overthinking this. Just make sure your mobility is up to snuff then do squats that feel natural. There's nothing wrong with a narrower stance on the squat or putting the load on the quads (aka the biggest muscle group in your body)
+ Show Spoiler [protip: squatting with your quads can…] +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzT1lY-q-hg

More on the case for quad dominant squatz:
http://www.jtsstrength.com/articles/2013/08/06/dan-green-on-knees-in-the-squat/

Also when you get proper depth it recruits the fuck out of your hamstrings and glutes.

took 4-5 days off. Squatted up to 455lbs at lunch yesterday then snatched up to 130kg in the afternoon. Oh the DOMS...IT FEELS SO GOOD.
p.s. lol @ running into girls i havent seen since high school(60 pounds of muscle ago) at the bar. They're so awestruck it's hilarious.


That reminds me of this video as well, both unbelievable and good narrow stance

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcEsmhVag1c



But his knees track over his toes! and his elbows are down instead of up and back! He doesnt activate the hips by sitting back at all! Lol 90% of rip's lifters probably can't even walk out 330kg

Isn't that just highbar vs lowbar? :p
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20176 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-14 14:36:09
August 14 2013 14:33 GMT
#2034
On August 14 2013 23:28 mordek wrote:
The longer I've been doing this stuff the less I like SS's squat advice :\


Rip takes quite a beating in the WL community. SS is good if you want to get strong and put on weight but i disagree entirely with his teaching of the squat and powerclean and lack of emphasis on mobility/flexibility/coordination/etc. to create an athlete.

On August 14 2013 23:29 Osmoses wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2013 23:21 decafchicken wrote:
On August 14 2013 17:11 sc4k wrote:
On August 13 2013 23:50 decafchicken wrote:
@osmoses - You're overthinking this. Just make sure your mobility is up to snuff then do squats that feel natural. There's nothing wrong with a narrower stance on the squat or putting the load on the quads (aka the biggest muscle group in your body)
+ Show Spoiler [protip: squatting with your quads can…] +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzT1lY-q-hg

More on the case for quad dominant squatz:
http://www.jtsstrength.com/articles/2013/08/06/dan-green-on-knees-in-the-squat/

Also when you get proper depth it recruits the fuck out of your hamstrings and glutes.

took 4-5 days off. Squatted up to 455lbs at lunch yesterday then snatched up to 130kg in the afternoon. Oh the DOMS...IT FEELS SO GOOD.
p.s. lol @ running into girls i havent seen since high school(60 pounds of muscle ago) at the bar. They're so awestruck it's hilarious.


That reminds me of this video as well, both unbelievable and good narrow stance

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcEsmhVag1c



But his knees track over his toes! and his elbows are down instead of up and back! He doesnt activate the hips by sitting back at all! Lol 90% of rip's lifters probably can't even walk out 330kg

Isn't that just highbar vs lowbar? :p


Those are just the weird things you have to do to accomodate low bar back squatting which is IMO not a very natural movement. Anything that doesn't involve an upright posture to me just seems wrong. I feel high bar (and even front) squats are more strength builders while a low bar back squat is a way to express that strength. You'll see plenty of high bar back squatters than can crush heavier low bar back squats but almost none the other way around
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
BenKen
Profile Joined August 2009
United States860 Posts
August 14 2013 15:57 GMT
#2035
Yeah really sucked when I realized that I slogged through 68 pages on the squat chapter of SS, tried to make it work for months, and then slowly piece by piece have been throwing away every cue I learned from the book.

The program is still excellent for a beginner's first few months though, which is exactly what it was intended for.
I deadlift for Aiur
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
August 14 2013 17:02 GMT
#2036
Yeah, Rip says multiple times that a lot of the advice in SS is meant to be safe and avoid common beginner mistakes rather than be the optimal way to lift for a powerlifting competition. For example, keeping your elbows back and up in the squat prevents holding up the bar with your hands, which is a very common tendency for people.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
August 14 2013 17:07 GMT
#2037
Interesting point about letting knees line up with toes at the bottom. Now that I think about it, whenever I intentionally try to keep my knees pushed out, I would always fail heavy squats. My knees would fall in line automatically if I don't think about it, presumably because that's where I generate the most power.
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mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-14 17:44:06
August 14 2013 17:43 GMT
#2038
On August 15 2013 02:02 ShadowDrgn wrote:
Yeah, Rip says multiple times that a lot of the advice in SS is meant to be safe and avoid common beginner mistakes rather than be the optimal way to lift for a powerlifting competition. For example, keeping your elbows back and up in the squat prevents holding up the bar with your hands, which is a very common tendency for people.

But then you watch this (is its about rack position primarily but stick with it): http://www.mobilitywod.com/2012/12/building-a-better-front-rack-shoulder-and-trunk-stability-relationship/
And Kelly recommends having an organized back/trunk > a tendency to hold it with your hands. The elbows back and up seems like correcting a technique problem with a form problem...

Personally I can vouch that the elbow queue leads to every heavy effort = good morning squat -> back injuries.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20176 Posts
August 14 2013 17:45 GMT
#2039
I generally trust my body to do whats right. Thinking about it just gets in the way of thousands of years of evolution.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
August 14 2013 17:52 GMT
#2040
On August 15 2013 02:45 decafchicken wrote:
I generally trust my body to do whats right. Thinking about it just gets in the way of thousands of years of evolution.

Yeah, but at the same time how many poor movement patterns have you "nurtured" from watching and mimicking other people using poor movement patterns. You could not think about it like a toddler doesn't think about the squat but then you're just ignoring how influential the people around you are
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
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