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On February 20 2012 06:50 eshlow wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2012 03:03 TheResidentEvil wrote:
so watched the movie fat sick and nearly dead. I was pretty impressed with the whole juice fast thing. might do one every once and awhile Juice fast is stupid. You load your body up on carbs (you don't even absorb vitamins and minerals that well from non-foods) and stress it hard. You limit foods that are actually good for you (fruits, vege, meats, fish, eggs, etc.) in favor of something that won't help that much aside from calories. If you're going to fast you should water fast, or at least intermittent fast with vegetables or something. Or just don't fast at all and eat right. It's like cleansing.... is completely crap.
Do you think that Intermittent fasting is also crap? :O
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On February 20 2012 07:43 NeedsmoreCELLTECH wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2012 06:50 eshlow wrote:On February 20 2012 03:03 TheResidentEvil wrote:
so watched the movie fat sick and nearly dead. I was pretty impressed with the whole juice fast thing. might do one every once and awhile Juice fast is stupid. You load your body up on carbs (you don't even absorb vitamins and minerals that well from non-foods) and stress it hard. You limit foods that are actually good for you (fruits, vege, meats, fish, eggs, etc.) in favor of something that won't help that much aside from calories. If you're going to fast you should water fast, or at least intermittent fast with vegetables or something. Or just don't fast at all and eat right. It's like cleansing.... is completely crap. Do you think that Intermittent fasting is also crap? :O
No, I just said if he's going to fast he should water fast or IF...... or vegetable if he's going to eat something.
Doing it with juice is just dumb you lose all the effects of actual fasting, and you don't actually get any significant nutrients
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South Africa4316 Posts
What exactly are the benefits of IF? I decided to try it out about two weeks ago since it fit into my normal eating schedule well, and to date I'd say it's gone pretty well. My biggest problem is that I'm having difficulty meeting my calorie goals every day. In general, is it better to stick to the fast or to meet your calorie goals?
Like today was a workout day, I'm supposed to eat 3000 calories. I ate my first meal of 500 calories 30 minutes before gym. When I came back from gym, I had a nice big meal of 1200 calories but I was dead tired so I fell asleep shortly after that. I just woke up now, two hours after the fast started, and my daily intake is 1700 calories, 1300 calories under what it's supposed to be. Usually I don't miss it by this much, but it's not unusual for me to miss my goal by 500-750 calories, especially on workout days.
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Good sesión on friday.
squat 120kg 3x5
Bench 80kg 3x5
Deadlift 150 1x5
Like a boss no?
I proceeded to go home and make myself this
+ Show Spoiler [recipe for boss bulking] +You add 3 scoops of this: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/zLHsD.jpg) Then 1 liter of whole milk ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/MUjro.jpg) Add ice and put it all in the blender ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/eqBWF.jpg) Pour it on a glass ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/aGKaG.jpg) And the serve cold with 3 home made organic beef hamburgers ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/b4wOw.jpg) Enjoy and lift big.
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
No progress on bench, funkie?
btw where's the official bench race list?
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On February 19 2012 06:06 GoTuNk! wrote:
When you lift heavy enough, people always watch/cheer four you. Specially when you drop 500 pounds of metal discs to the floor :p
This is so true. I got people yelling at me like "vamos, VAMOOOS" when I was doing my last deadlift rep. Good shit.
On February 19 2012 00:16 KOVU wrote:
Went to a LAN with friends and skipped sleep completely. I wonder how this will effect sundays workout, after that I'm off to 3 days of drinking - vacations are awesome.
Use the decaf principle. It's true. And it works.
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well i think im still going to do it.
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On February 20 2012 09:45 infinity21 wrote:
No progress on bench, funkie?
btw where's the official bench race list?
No.  . Dunno why my arms are such little bitches.
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On February 20 2012 09:38 Daigomi wrote:
What exactly are the benefits of IF? I decided to try it out about two weeks ago since it fit into my normal eating schedule well, and to date I'd say it's gone pretty well. My biggest problem is that I'm having difficulty meeting my calorie goals every day. In general, is it better to stick to the fast or to meet your calorie goals?
Like today was a workout day, I'm supposed to eat 3000 calories. I ate my first meal of 500 calories 30 minutes before gym. When I came back from gym, I had a nice big meal of 1200 calories but I was dead tired so I fell asleep shortly after that. I just woke up now, two hours after the fast started, and my daily intake is 1700 calories, 1300 calories under what it's supposed to be. Usually I don't miss it by this much, but it's not unusual for me to miss my goal by 500-750 calories, especially on workout days.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intermittent_fasting
^^ :p
On February 20 2012 09:52 TheResidentEvil wrote:
well i think im still going to do it.
Live and learn I guess.... if logic doesn't work.
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South Africa4316 Posts
On February 20 2012 10:40 eshlow wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2012 09:38 Daigomi wrote:
What exactly are the benefits of IF? I decided to try it out about two weeks ago since it fit into my normal eating schedule well, and to date I'd say it's gone pretty well. My biggest problem is that I'm having difficulty meeting my calorie goals every day. In general, is it better to stick to the fast or to meet your calorie goals?
Like today was a workout day, I'm supposed to eat 3000 calories. I ate my first meal of 500 calories 30 minutes before gym. When I came back from gym, I had a nice big meal of 1200 calories but I was dead tired so I fell asleep shortly after that. I just woke up now, two hours after the fast started, and my daily intake is 1700 calories, 1300 calories under what it's supposed to be. Usually I don't miss it by this much, but it's not unusual for me to miss my goal by 500-750 calories, especially on workout days. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intermittent_fasting^^ :p Show nested quote +On February 20 2012 09:52 TheResidentEvil wrote:
well i think im still going to do it. Live and learn I guess.... if logic doesn't work.
Yeah I read that before I asked the question, but none of the reasons seemed relevant to leangains' target population:
- Lower cholesterol
- Preventing chronic disease
- Protection from chemo treatments
- Two benefits I don't understand: Lower triglycerides and nutritional hormesis.
Like I said, I'm mostly wondering if it's more important for me to hit my calorie intake goals or to follow the fast. If I can hit the goals by eating one hour after the fast started, should I do that or not?
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IF can also have practical benefits because typically one only has to prepare two meals per day.
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On February 20 2012 11:30 Daigomi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2012 10:40 eshlow wrote:On February 20 2012 09:38 Daigomi wrote:
What exactly are the benefits of IF? I decided to try it out about two weeks ago since it fit into my normal eating schedule well, and to date I'd say it's gone pretty well. My biggest problem is that I'm having difficulty meeting my calorie goals every day. In general, is it better to stick to the fast or to meet your calorie goals?
Like today was a workout day, I'm supposed to eat 3000 calories. I ate my first meal of 500 calories 30 minutes before gym. When I came back from gym, I had a nice big meal of 1200 calories but I was dead tired so I fell asleep shortly after that. I just woke up now, two hours after the fast started, and my daily intake is 1700 calories, 1300 calories under what it's supposed to be. Usually I don't miss it by this much, but it's not unusual for me to miss my goal by 500-750 calories, especially on workout days. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intermittent_fasting^^ :p On February 20 2012 09:52 TheResidentEvil wrote:
well i think im still going to do it. Live and learn I guess.... if logic doesn't work. Yeah I read that before I asked the question, but none of the reasons seemed relevant to leangains' target population: - Lower cholesterol - Preventing chronic disease - Protection from chemo treatments - Two benefits I don't understand: Lower triglycerides and nutritional hormesis. Like I said, I'm mostly wondering if it's more important for me to hit my calorie intake goals or to follow the fast. If I can hit the goals by eating one hour after the fast started, should I do that or not?
Are you on a cut? One of the big benifits I found was that you're less hungry during the day and you can still eat big meals. And if you're off by something like 1000 calories then yeah I'd just still eat it and extend your feeding window by an hour or 2, that's not gonna kill you.
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This feels like the first weeks of SS all over again :D So much fun to get stronger each session. Cut is going okay aswell, not losing that fast but already getting slightly more definition.
Squat 107,5kg 1x5 PR
Bench 77kg 1x5 PR
PowerClean 65kg 1x5
Two sets of weighed hypers and four sets of abs.
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On February 20 2012 03:21 Sneakyz wrote:
Felt a sharp pain in my back when I was moving around some plates during deadlift warm up so got really worried. Used a belt on the heavy double and focused really hard on my form, managed to finish without pain.
2x180kg deadlift
5x3x150kg "speed" deadlift
Circuit stuffz
Coan Phillipi week 4 complete! I Was really nervous about this week so this felt nice :D
good job man  I was so relieved when that circuit stuff was finally over... it almost killed me.
just completed week 7 of coan/phillipi (2x180kg). going for 190kg next week, which will be a +7.5kg PR need da foodz!
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Back was hurting this morning. It's been a little bitchy other days too but always sorted itself out once I'd warmed up. Not today though, I got a pretty bad cramp in my lower back when I was warming up for my first squat. So, I took it easy, only did 80% of my max on squat and deadlift. Squats I feel I have totally down now, but I've started to notice issues with my deadlift. Having trouble getting my knees out of the way, I instinctively turn them outward to avoid the bar. Most likely this contributed to my current back pains. Gonna read the SS deadlift chapter again tonight.
Did proper bench though, and I finally managed 5x75kg. 80kg just popped up on my horizon.
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So I bought Jack3d and used it for the first time today, I took 1 scoop, 30 mins after I woke up, with about 350ml water.
I didn't feel much, the only thing I felt was like I was walking on water, I felt really light.
Not much extra energy or focus.
I'm not a big guy either, probably around 160 lbs now.
Anyone have any experience with Jack3d?
I'm considering taking 2 scoops next time and perhaps try a workout in the afternoon rather than early morning workout.
And yes I did take it on empty stomach.
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Had an ok session, considering I only slept 6 hours today:
Squat 1x2 142.5kg - I'll probably try for a triple with 145 next week anyway, hopefully some decent night sleep will do the trick.
BP 1x3 82.5kg - 3rd rep was bad. Bounced + my ass got off the bench.
Close grip Chinups - 3x3 BW+10kg - it's been a pretty long while since I've done weighted chin ups, but these were pretty decent.
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On February 20 2012 09:45 infinity21 wrote:
No progress on bench, funkie?
btw where's the official bench race list?
PR leaderboard thread 
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On February 18 2012 03:31 eshlow wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2012 03:06 Deadeight wrote:
Ok, well I think it's going to take a lot to educate myself on what I should be doing, so I'm going to take the easy route and find a program. Can anyone recommend one? I just want pure strength, all I want out of it is to lift heavy ass weights. I can lift fairly heavy stuff already if this makes a difference.
I'm looking at something called 5-3-1 at the moment, but I don't really like the idea of one week in every four being a deload week, like I'm having a period once a month and can't work out. Of course though I understand there's going to be science behind it, I just don't like the idea of it.
I looked at the stickys and saw the advanced novice program, and I'd really like to be doing more than 3 sets for stuff. It might be because I've had a couple of years of endurance stuff and building up a ton of slow twitch, lactate tolerance etc etc, but after three sets of the most I can lift for 5 reps I'm not hurting enough.
Thanks in advance for any help. Starting Strength, if you're new, is fine. Or StrongLifts. If your lift numbers are up above 1.5x squat/dl then sure do an intermediate program. Otherwise, not stick with a novice program
Sorry just to clarify, is that above 1.5x my 1rm or what I'd be doing for 5x5 etc? Today I went for 5x5 on squats and did the first set at 120kg and the final set was 125kg. The other day I did 5x5 dead lift (which I will switch to 1x5) and I did all 5 sets at 140g. My bodyweight is I think about 90kg so I'm not quite at 1.5x really for squat.
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There is no magical ratio that marks when you're not a novice lifter anymore, you just run an intermediate program when you're no longer able to progress in each workout. Unless I'm mistaken, Deadeight, you're still progressing on a workout basis, so I'd recommend trying to run SS for a while and exhaust those gains before submitting yourself to the volume horror that is 5x5.
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